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Who do you think is the most one-dimensional player in the NHL?

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09-20-2003, 06:37 PM
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Jay Pandolfo. Although he was a scoring machine in the playoffs last year.

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09-20-2003, 06:56 PM
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Mario Lemieux?

*burns in the firey pit of hell*

Okay, okay.

How about Robyn Regehr? This guy has absolutely no offensive upside, but is great defensivly.

Ladislav Nagy seems pretty inept defensivly too..

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09-20-2003, 07:06 PM
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"Vishnevski": One of those goals was a sweet shorthanded breakaway goal. Flashed some definite skill on that one. I wouldn't call him one of the most one-dimensional players just yet. He hasn't had time to develop yet.

"Nagy": ??? He was a +17 on an under-.500 team, second on the club. I have no real problem with his defensive play.

Delmore and Briere are my top picks thus far.

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09-20-2003, 07:13 PM
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Ilya Kovalchuk. His offensive skills make up for it though.

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Ilya Kovalchuk. His offensive skills make up for it though.
I think Ilya's defensive side came out a bit last season when Hartley *the task master* came to coach. Ilya is big, and I expect him to start using his body more, and his defense to improve quite a bit next year.

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Ilya Kovalchuk although he is young and may yet learn the defensive part of the game and he is already a pure sniper so at least when he poaches he can bury the puck

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Ilya Kovalchuk. His offensive skills make up for it though.
He's learning to play defence ever since he got his butt stapled to the bench for being an idiot in his own zone.

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09-20-2003, 08:18 PM
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If anyone watched one game of Lemieux they'd know he's far from "one-dimensional"

If anyone is on the Penguins it's...Josef Melichar.

Defensive defenseman who has like 3 points in his career I think, going into his fourth season without a career goal(hasn't played 100 games yet though due to injuries, but still...he can't hit an open netter).

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09-20-2003, 09:00 PM
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If anyone watched one game of Lemieux they'd know he's far from "one-dimensional"

If anyone is on the Penguins it's...Josef Melichar.

Defensive defenseman who has like 3 points in his career I think, going into his fourth season without a career goal(hasn't played 100 games yet though due to injuries, but still...he can't hit an open netter).
I will take a one dimentional Lemieux over all but 2 players ever and I dont buy that one dimentional crap either. I am glad the Pens make it to STL this year I am going to sit down low for that one in case Mario has one of those games and puts on a show.

As much as I kike the scraps the player for the Blues in my avatar was pretty one dimentional.

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09-20-2003, 09:22 PM
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Easily Berezin. I've never seen anyone so one dimensional.

I don't understand the mentioning of players like Miller, Vishnevski and Regehr. Being strong defensively isn't merely one dimension. Unless we're thinking solely in terms of 'offense' and 'defense' as being the only two dimensions?

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How about Trevor Kidd or Damian Rhodes?

Hmmm for the Wild, Brad Bombardir has one dimension....get injured and sit out for 40 games

Who else...

 
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Alexander Karpovtsev: goes down after getting hit in the ankle so often I think he wants to be injured.

now-retired Ken Daneyko: no offense, all defense.

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Pavel Bure when he was playing...

Ilya Kovulchuk?
That's ridiculous

Pavel Bure was tremendous on the Rangers, probably our best back checker and was effective on the PK


can't just pick one, here are my nominees: Tom Poti, Andy Delmore, Pavel Brendl, Sergei Berezin, Mariuz Chow

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09-21-2003, 08:33 AM
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Aaron Miller
Maxim Kuznetsov

Disagree about Richardson he was named Blue Jacket captain:
Good defensive play,leadership and toughness is 3 dimensions
Disagree on Kuznetsov, you need to have at least one dimension before you can be one-dimensional.

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09-21-2003, 08:53 AM
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I don't understand the mentioning of players like Miller, Vishnevski and Regehr. Being strong defensively isn't merely one dimension. Unless we're thinking solely in terms of 'offense' and 'defense' as being the only two dimensions?


Agree whole-heartedly. People seem to not understand the fact that hockey isn't just Offense and Defense. To mention people like Miller, Kovalchuk, etc, is ludicrous. Just because somebody is terrible defensively or offensively doesn't mean they are one-dimensional. Kovalchuk and Miller both use their body and other skills in order to make up for their lack of a certain dimension (Kovalchuks' defense, and Miller's offense). Whether they do that effectively or not is a different story. Kovalchuk, for example, will learn to be more effective multi-dimesionally. He's not one-dimensional now, just because he's pretty much an offensive player only. He can get mixed up in the game physically, intimidate with his shot, etc. Todd Bertuzzi isn't one dimemsional, and he wouldn't know the defensive zone if he fell in it. Let's not forget offense and defense are very general categories. There are many "dimensions" within those two topics.

Players like Andy Delmore, who ONLY have ONE skill suitable for the NHL are one-dimensional. He has a good shot, and besides that, nothing. Can't hit, can't poke check, etc. IMO, people are being ignorant to the fact that there are a lot more dimensions in hockey besides offense and defense when they nominate some of these candidates.

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Disagree on Kuznetsov, you need to have at least one dimension before you can be one-dimensional.
What, he doesn't even have the "SUCK" dimension?

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Jonas Höglund is my pick. One quality: Useless.

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09-22-2003, 06:53 AM
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Disagree on Kuznetsov, you need to have at least one dimension before you can be one-dimensional.
I wish I could be that bad and still earn a half million+ a year.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arankys
Aaron Miller
Maxim Kuznetsov

Disagree about Richardson he was named Blue Jacket captain:
Good defensive play,leadership and toughness is 3 dimensions
Still signaling out LA's defense I see....
I disagree about Miller.....he can hit, score a couple as well.....Norstrom would be a better pick......all defence, if he's lucky he'll get 1 goal a year

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09-22-2003, 01:36 PM
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Still signaling out LA's defense I see....
I disagree about Miller.....he can hit, score a couple as well.....Norstrom would be a better pick......all defence, if he's lucky he'll get 1 goal a year

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