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11-22-2012, 11:14 AM
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I agree, but I guess if those are high expectations, they're high for both Nuge and Gally, so in the end my point still kind of stands...
The Nuge is a lot more of a sure thing. He has proven that can be good at NHL level. (Better PPG then any Hab last year while being just a 18yo rookie). He is also among the leaders in hack and whack AHL this season. It would be really stupid for EDM to trade him away knowing that this organization has been without a #1C for a decade (D.Weight).

Wish Glay all the best and hope he becomes the player you want him to be but his value does not equal RNH..

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11-22-2012, 11:25 AM
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for Carey Price....start with Jordan Eberle or Taylor Hall+....


this thread is a joke and should be closed......

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11-22-2012, 11:35 AM
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for Carey Price....start with Jordan Eberle or Taylor Hall+....
this thread is a joke and should be closed......
yes because RNH is a chump compared to Hall or Ebs.
Keep Price and EDM will just hope that Dubnyk can improve his stats from 0.914% to 0.916% for half the cost.

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11-22-2012, 11:37 AM
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for Carey Price....start with Jordan Eberle or Taylor Hall+....


this thread is a joke and should be closed......
I'm a leafs fan and this is pretty bad for the habs. Carey price is top 5 in the nhl and gally is there future 1c. RNH is going to be awsome but the habs are set at the positions that are most important to a team, 1C,1D,1G.

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11-22-2012, 11:40 AM
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I would think MTL would pass on this offer.

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11-22-2012, 11:51 AM
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RNH in second full junior season: 1.54 PPG

Galchenyuk in second full junior season (so far): 1.59 PPG
Gagner last year 1 game 8.00 PPG . Means nothing over the long haul . Let him play a full season and see. Plus the Nuge was in the WHL . Better over all team D in the WHL

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11-22-2012, 11:52 AM
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I would think MTL would pass on this offer.
well so would EDM unless you think COL would take Price + Galy for Landeskog + Varmalov + Elliot and run...

both teams EDM and MTL are happy with the core they have and should only focus on finding players that compliment the core.

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11-22-2012, 11:57 AM
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http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/stats/show

Strome, Ritchie and Griffith are pretty obvious choices to be top 3 in points. They are on beast teams and older that Galchenyuk.

All the guys between him and 4th in points have 2 or 3 games more played and are 1 or 2 points ahead. His team is mediocre and he still has 1.59 point per game average. RNH had a 1.53 point per game average in his 3rd OHL season. I wouldnt say that RNH and Gally are that far apart.
RNH never played in the OHL . Maybe find out facts before posting .

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11-22-2012, 12:07 PM
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RNH in second full junior season: 1.54 PPG

Galchenyuk in second full junior season (so far): 1.59 PPG
You do realize Gally is a year older in this comparison right?

RNH's season was redraft at age 18 at years end
the season ou are using for Gally he's post draft and will be 19 at years end

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11-22-2012, 12:07 PM
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for Carey Price....start with Jordan Eberle or Taylor Hall+....


this thread is a joke and should be closed......
Awww! Look at all the non-Oilers fans saying that Eberle > Hall > RNH

Do you guys do more than look at the player points standings?

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11-22-2012, 12:15 PM
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I dont see anything special in RNH aswell. Overall the big 4 is overrated and very meh
Only one I might, and I do stretch that, agree with you on is Hall. Personally, see Eberle and RNH as the outproducing him but the big four is undoubtedly high end talent. To say otherwise means you either have bias or never watch Edmonton. Those kids are practically bleeding star potential.

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11-22-2012, 12:43 PM
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You do realize Gally is a year older in this comparison right?

RNH's season was redraft at age 18 at years end
the season ou are using for Gally he's post draft and will be 19 at years end
But for both of them it was their 3rd year in juniors.

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Absolutely not for Oilers.

I have no ill feelings for the Habs, but Gally will not reach RNH.
You can't teach the IQ that Hopkins has.

Edmonton will not trade RNH for anything less than an established superstar centre, as he is going to become just that.

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Edmonton jumps on that like a hungry lion on a piece of meat but Montreal laughs it off.
Dont speak for Edmonton fans when literally not a single one has agreed

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for Carey Price....start with Jordan Eberle or Taylor Hall+....


this thread is a joke and should be closed......
Ok so you think Price is being over rated in this thread and Oilers should downgrade from offering RNH to Eberle?

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Are people really trying to compare Dubnyk and Price ?

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11-22-2012, 01:31 PM
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But for both of them it was their 3rd year in juniors.
dont underestimate the difference in age.. it is a lot easier playing junior as a 18yo.. a lot less people older then you and a lot more fresh meat..

watch the junior tourneys and you can tell how a year in age <not experience> can help a player.

in terms of impressiveness:
RNH's NHL production last year > RNH's AHL production this year > RNH production in his draft year > Galy's prodcution this season.

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Are people really trying to compare Dubnyk and Price ?
nope ... just RNH and Galchenyuk.

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So montreal has their franchise goalie and a potential #1 Center. They trade both for Dubynk, a young 1st line center and futures.

Basically, montreal goes from a position of having potentially 2 positions covered long term to having only 1 covered. I don't see how this helps even though RNH is a good piece.

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dont underestimate the difference in age.. it is a lot easier playing junior as a 18yo.. a lot less people older then you and a lot more fresh meat..

watch the junior tourneys and you can tell how a year in age <not experience> can help a player.

in terms of impressiveness:
RNH's NHL production last year > RNH's AHL production this year > RNH production in his draft year > Galy's prodcution this season.
Not sure if you know this but if Gally played 69 games just like RNH did in his draft year, he would have more goals and points than RNH did. Oh and OHL's top leaders are lower than those of WHL. A reasonable assumption could suggest OHL is best junior league in Canada.

Sure, gally is a year older but lost a year of development. Seems to me like so far that list bit is relatively equal rather than > or <.

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Not sure if you know this but if Gally played 69 games just like RNH did in his draft year, he would have more goals and points than RNH did. Oh and OHL's top leaders are lower than those of WHL. A reasonable assumption could suggest OHL is best junior league in Canada.

Sure, gally is a year older but lost a year of development. Seems to me like so far that list bit is relatively equal rather than > or <.
Galy could have done it but didnt.. Nuge scoring 100pts in his draft year is more impressive than what Galy could have done but didnt..

Also re your other post .. If Price is a franchise goalie then RNH is no less than a franchise C .. I will stick with my brackets and say getting the best player > covering positions when it comes to elite players.

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Essentially it would be Carey Price for Dubnyk, Klefbom, 2nd, and the difference in value from Galchenyuk to RNH. Price would have to go for more then that I would think.

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yes because RNH is a chump compared to Hall or Ebs.
Keep Price and EDM will just hope that Dubnyk can improve his stats from 0.914% to 0.916% for half the cost.
He won't be costing half the price for long if he puts up numbers close to Price.

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Galy could have done it but didnt.. Nuge scoring 100pts in his draft year is more impressive than what Galy could have done but didnt..

Also re your other post .. If Price is a franchise goalie then RNH is no less than a franchise C .. I will stick with my brackets and say getting the best player > covering positions when it comes to elite players.
I don't mean last year, I mean now. He's gotta finish the year and has only been producing more as season progressed. You said '> Galy's prodcution this season.'

You can say that if you wish so how about uhmm, Pacioretty for every useful asset in edmonton besides big 4? I mean...clearly, you get the best player. You get the idea I hope. Price is elite himself and so is RNH so I don't think this 'best player' even really applies as there is a high level going each way.

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I'm going to call Montreal my second-favorite team. Surprise, the Oilers are my fave.

Montreal says no because they would compromise their best position in the league, goaltending, to shore up their offence, which they believe can be covered by Galchenyuk anyways.

Edmonton says no because they would compromise a position they have no depth in, centre, to shore up their goaltending, which they (likely dumbly) believe can be covered by Dubnyk.

In the end, EDM wouldn't want to trade RNH except for the moon, and MTL won't trade Price except for a larger one.

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