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11-22-2012, 07:54 AM
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I don't see either Montroll or Winniethepig doing this trade.

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11-22-2012, 08:19 AM
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This is a terrible deal for the Jets.

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11-22-2012, 09:12 AM
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Here is one of my first proposals. I'm kinda bored, so keep it friendly if you find out something may be off.

Here it goes :


Montreal receives :

-Evander Kane
-Zach Bogosian


Winnepeg receives :

-P.K Subban
-David Desharnais
-Brendon Gallagher



The goal here for Montreal is getting a grip on Evander Kane's size and scoring ability. His skill set would provide interesting line combinations going foward with Pacioretty and Galchenyuk when he is ready. The loss of Subban definetly hurts, but Bogosian's top end potentiel eases it out a bit.


As for Winnepeg, adding Subban would provide awesome skill on the back-end with Big buff and Enstrom. I was'nt sure if the team would prefer receiving Desharnais or Eller, but I figure out Desharnais as the most interesting of the two players adding some playmaking spark in Top 6. Brendon Gallagher provides a semi-ready prospect that could be interesting down the road.


Thaughts ?
This is right on par with most leafs proposals, winnie say no maybe p.k and gally and 2nd

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11-22-2012, 09:21 AM
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Desharnais and Gallagher wouldn't be enough to land us a player like Kane. Jets pass

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11-22-2012, 09:33 AM
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You will get a lot of No's from Jets fans. Bogo is an overwhelming fan favourite and most posters wouldn't even consider trading him straight up for Subban.

That leaves the other 2 for Kane. Not going to happen.

Bogo and Kane are the Jets future they aren't going anywhere.
My thoughts, without typing them.

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11-22-2012, 09:43 AM
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Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle

A Hab fan questioning Kane's character, in a proposal involving Subban.
I guess we've forgotton the times that Subban's shown immaturity?
You may need some work on your reading comprehension. He said "work ethic", not character. I think you would be hard pressed to find many players that have a better work ethic than Subban. He lives and breaths hockey. He is at the gym all the time. He is probably the most physically prepared player on his team. He goes balls out, both at practice and in games.

FWIW the Jets get ripped off in this trade.

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11-22-2012, 09:45 AM
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Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle

A Hab fan questioning Kane's character, in a proposal involving Subban.
I guess we've forgotton the times that Subban's shown immaturity?
No I'm forgetting last time Subban showed up at training camp out of shape and got his arse fired not too long afterwards.

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11-22-2012, 12:16 PM
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You may need some work on your reading comprehension. He said "work ethic", not character. I think you would be hard pressed to find many players that have a better work ethic than Subban. He lives and breaths hockey. He is at the gym all the time. He is probably the most physically prepared player on his team. He goes balls out, both at practice and in games.

FWIW the Jets get ripped off in this trade.
yah i think someones putting a bit of stock in kanes russian experiment, which i would personally ignore. to be entirely honest, i would void all issues/performance/news from other leagues during the lockout when considering value of players. obviously if you can use that to "lower" the value of a player you want i can see why you would but i don't think many will agree with you.

Until the russian experiment, you coul dhave said the exact same thing about kane. he's extrodinarily driven, singleminded, "champion" mentality. The kid loves to win.


and yes.... this is a terrible proposal for the jets. you want the two players worth the most to this team, you pay accordingly. In the bizzaro land where the jets would trade htese two players youd definitly need subban galchenyuk + coming back. yes i'm dead serious. "but galchenyuks third overal all can't miss prospect blah blah blah" and Kane was 4th and bogo was (gasp!) 3rd overall as well. Trust me, you want these two, you pay through the nose, they ARE our core going forward.

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11-22-2012, 12:30 PM
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Jets pass and I'd rather keep Subban

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11-22-2012, 12:34 PM
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yah i think someones putting a bit of stock in kanes russian experiment, which i would personally ignore. to be entirely honest, i would void all issues/performance/news from other leagues during the lockout when considering value of players. obviously if you can use that to "lower" the value of a player you want i can see why you would but i don't think many will agree with you.

Until the russian experiment, you coul dhave said the exact same thing about kane. he's extrodinarily driven, singleminded, "champion" mentality. The kid loves to win.


and yes.... this is a terrible proposal for the jets. you want the two players worth the most to this team, you pay accordingly. In the bizzaro land where the jets would trade htese two players youd definitly need subban galchenyuk + coming back. yes i'm dead serious. "but galchenyuks third overal all can't miss prospect blah blah blah" and Kane was 4th and bogo was (gasp!) 3rd overall as well. Trust me, you want these two, you pay through the nose, they ARE our core going forward.
I'm not attempting to lower Kane's value, I'm saying I don't want him in Montreal period.

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11-22-2012, 12:54 PM
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Jets get fleeced.

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11-22-2012, 12:55 PM
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I'm not attempting to lower Kane's value, I'm saying I don't want him in Montreal period.
You don't want the guy that got 30 NHL goals at age 20 while playing a physical hard nosed game? Ok.

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11-22-2012, 12:55 PM
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alright then

Paches+ subban for Bogo +Kane

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11-22-2012, 12:58 PM
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alright then

Paches+ subban for Bogo +Kane
Jets get older for what is essentially a talent wash. Why would they do this?

Neither team makes this trade.

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11-22-2012, 01:02 PM
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alright then

Paches+ subban for Bogo +Kane
Close to even, but...why? No needs addressed just for for tat

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11-22-2012, 01:36 PM
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honestly this isn't as bad as everyone seem to think

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11-22-2012, 01:39 PM
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Take out Bogosian and you have a deal, but you guys can take Desharnies out of the deal too

Subban and Gallagher for Kane sounds good

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11-22-2012, 01:48 PM
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Jets pass on this. Subban is about equal to kane IMO but DD and Gallagher don't bring in Bogo. Really, habs would need to step it up. I don't think this is a situation where WPG gets owned but they certainly don't win. Habs would have to give up someone more proven than gallagher. Eller perhaps. After that, it's closer but still no real incentive for WPG as it's quality vs quantity on 2nd part.

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11-22-2012, 01:52 PM
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Its a bad proposal imo, but on what planet Bogosian and Subban are a wash? lol.

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11-22-2012, 01:52 PM
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honestly this isn't as bad as everyone seem to think
It really is AINEC!

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11-22-2012, 02:05 PM
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Not a chance Winnipeg takes this. PK is your headache and Bogo and Kane are the 'pegs future star players.

Honestly it's not even close.

As noted earlier, it's "Winnipeg".
Winnipeg doesn't do it but saying PK is Montreal's headache is incredibly ignorant. I guess by the same token Kane must be Winnipeg's headache?

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11-22-2012, 02:13 PM
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Habs do it, Jets laugh. Not enough for Kane.

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11-22-2012, 03:00 PM
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Its a bad proposal imo, but on what planet Bogosian and Subban are a wash? lol.
The planet Earth. Not sure what one you're living on

I mean they were within .02ppg of each other and within one minute average toi. Bogosian is also over a year younger.


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11-22-2012, 03:20 PM
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I'd only be interested in Bogo because he's a tougher player and would beef up our d. However, I'm not completely sold on him and the Jets wouldn't sell him cheap at this point.

Love Kane, but the cost to acquire him would be too great.

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11-22-2012, 03:27 PM
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Evander Kane is better than PK Subban and Zach Bogosian is at least equal, if not better than, PK Subban as well.

Not sure what you're talking about.

Montreal needs to add majorly for this trade to go through.


P.k . =>. Kane and is > Bogosian
I wouldn't trade P.K straight up for either one of them.

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