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01-08-2013, 11:21 AM
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I know this is way off base... but could you imagine what the opening night roster would be with the guys we lost, Kovy disappearing, and Henrique injured?

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01-08-2013, 11:22 AM
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does anyone know how retiring affects these scenarios?

If Kovy retires can he play in the KHL?
There would probably be some kind of fall out.

I mean, you don't even need to retire to leave the NHL for the KHL as evident by Radulov.

The IIHF needs to get all of the world's hockey leagues to sign contracts not to poach other teams players. Basketball does this and there is never a problem.

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01-08-2013, 11:24 AM
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I know this is way off base... but could you imagine what the opening night roster would be with the guys we lost, Kovy disappearing, and Henrique injured?

Elias-Zajac-Zubrus
Tedenby-Josefson-Clarkson
Carter-Gionta-Bernier
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Dont do this to yourself. If you take two top 6 forwards off any team, it will look ugly.

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01-08-2013, 11:24 AM
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does anyone know how retiring affects these scenarios?

If Kovy retires can he play in the KHL?
Actually that is interesting since he already play 2 years below the cap rate. So would could possible get an extra thousand dollars...haha.

Contract would get voided, but there is no way this happens. Like .00001% chance. Kovy would lose the chance to play for Russia in the Olympics. Not to mention the KHL/NHL would have a massive fight with each other.

If Kovy really wanted to play in the KHL he would have signed with them 2 years ago.

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01-08-2013, 11:25 AM
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I'm not imagining the ugliness because I'm about 100% certain we won't have to worry about that.

Now, I don't doubt that SKA is doing everything it can to hang onto Kovalchuk.... but it'll prove a long, unworthy path in the long run.


Stop letting media/other fanbases spin us into frenzies, my fellow Devils fans.

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01-08-2013, 11:27 AM
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There would probably be some kind of fall out.

I mean, you don't even need to retire to leave the NHL for the KHL as evident by Radulov.

The IIHF needs to get all of the world's hockey leagues to sign contracts not to poach other teams players. Basketball does this and there is never a problem.
Radulov was different since he was under an RFA contract.

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01-08-2013, 11:28 AM
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Ilya Kovalchuk tells Rsport.ru he doesn't want to hurry back until new #CBA is ratified. But doesn't rule out possibility of staying in #KHL

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01-08-2013, 11:31 AM
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So he's afraid of a hiccup in the signing process and wasting time going back and forth? That is acceptable.

Sounds like I'm waiting to get a Kovy jersey

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Kovy is being hustled by Rooskie thugs to stay because he owes them lobster money.



What we know now is that the NHL and KHL have made clear that no NHL players will be allowed to play in the KHL once the deal is ratified.

We also have one second hand quote from a Russian media outlet saying how Kovalchuk has to "read" the agreement.

So who knows. I personally dont see Kovalchuk as a guy who would throw away his 90 million owed, his mansion, etc, for the KHL.

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01-08-2013, 11:32 AM
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Radulov was different since he was under an RFA contract.
It wasn't even a contract, was it? He was a free agent whose NHL rights were still owned by Nashville, I believe.

Edit: I went to wiki to check on this:

"On July 11, 2008, it was announced that although Radulov was still under contract with the Nashville Predators for one more season, he had signed a three-year deal with Salavat Yulaev Ufa of the Kontinental Hockey League (KHL). Radulov had previously notified the Predators organization of his desire to play in Russia, stating that he was being offered better conditions.[3] Immediately after the announcement, the Predators, National Hockey League (NHL), and International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF) all released statements emphasizing that Radulov's contract obligated him to the Predators through the 2008–09 season and that signing with a team in Russia was a direct violation of an agreement made the previous day between the NHL and all international hockey leagues to respect players' existing contracts.[4][5] After the IIHF ordered that Ufa void Radulov's contract, Ilya Kochevrin, vice-president of the KHL, argued that Radulov was signed on July 5, before the agreement was made on July 10.[6] While the contract remained disputed, the IIHF suspended Radulov from international play on July 18 as investigations continued,[7] a suspension that was lifted soon as it appeared there was no legal ground to suspend Radulov.
After giving Radulov a September 1 deadline to notify his intentions to return to Nashville, the Predators suspended him, on September 2, without pay for the 2008–09 season."

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So Radulov did just decided to stay in Russia because he wanted to, even though he had a year left on his contract, and the IIHF did suspend him.

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01-08-2013, 11:33 AM
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We need more information from pro-KHL media outlets, stat.

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Yea since the KHL Said they wont break the agreement

He is def coming back

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01-08-2013, 11:34 AM
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Kovy says there’s no rumored possibility for #SKA to buy out his contract from #Devils. 'My family is in Moscow. There's no need to hurry

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Multiple reports have speculated that the 29-year-old is considering whether to stay in his native Russia rather than return to his NHL club, the New Jersey Devils, once the lockout ends.

A source told ESPNNewYork.com that Kovalchuk as well as other Russian players expressed concern to the NHLPA Friday about their reluctance to return to North America, with escrow being the key issue.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nhl/stor...ls-source-says

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Re: Kovalchuk story: told group of Russian players expressed concern to NHLPA on Friday abt returning to NHL, the key issue being escrow.

Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN
That was, however, before the tentative agreement was reached between NHL and NHLPA early Sunday morning

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Kovy says there’s no rumored possibility for #SKA to buy out his contract from #Devils. 'My family is in Moscow. There's no need to hurry
Good, Good

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01-08-2013, 11:38 AM
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He can skate around meaninglessly in Newark til a CBA gets ratified.
Or he can play actual games this week til training camp is ready to go.

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I'm tired of reading quotes he better get the F on the plane and get back here.

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Have been at rinkand have not scrolled down last couple of hours of tweets, so sorry if this is repeat, but re KHL: told that last Friday...

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
...last Friday, Malkin, Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Datsyuk were preparing press release to announce they intended to remain in KHL regardless...

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
Told that quartet hd been promised immense amount of money (guarantee fromn Putin) to stay in KHL and not return to NHL...

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
Told that NHLPA was able to talk players out of issuing statement...Ovechkin has returned, Datsyuk has pledged to honor last 2 yrs with Det

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I was never a big Kovi fan in his early years, but the past few years he's evolved into an even better player and an even better leader... I think he's Russia's captain in Sochi.. A year away folks..buckle up.

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Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
Have been at rinkand have not scrolled down last couple of hours of tweets, so sorry if this is repeat, but re KHL: told that last Friday...

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
...last Friday, Malkin, Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Datsyuk were preparing press release to announce they intended to remain in KHL regardless...

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
Told that quartet hd been promised immense amount of money (guarantee fromn Putin) to stay in KHL and not return to NHL...

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
Told that NHLPA was able to talk players out of issuing statement...Ovechkin has returned, Datsyuk has pledged to honor last 2 yrs with Det

https://twitter.com/NYP_Brooksie
Good Job NHLPA. One of the only good things you have done lately

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Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
Have been at rinkand have not scrolled down last couple of hours of tweets, so sorry if this is repeat, but re KHL: told that last Friday...

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
...last Friday, Malkin, Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Datsyuk were preparing press release to announce they intended to remain in KHL regardless...

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
Told that quartet hd been promised immense amount of money (guarantee fromn Putin) to stay in KHL and not return to NHL...

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie
Told that NHLPA was able to talk players out of issuing statement...Ovechkin has returned, Datsyuk has pledged to honor last 2 yrs with Det

https://twitter.com/NYP_Brooksie

Yeah... this is a huge problem.

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Russia is so weird

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Yeah... this is a huge problem.
It would be a problem if they stayed. Good thing the NHLPA killed that

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It would be a problem if they stayed. Good thing the NHLPA killed that
One of those names is still a question mark and it's our guy. So now we KNOW that the intention was to stay and they are being offered huge money from the freaking government to stay.

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