He's an excellent even strength player. Hustles like crazy, tonnes of speed, good puck handler and shooter, totally willing to sacrifice the body to make plays, and a dynamic player who can generate offence out of nothing. However, he is only mediocre on the PP (which is more slowed down and cerebral, Grabo's balls to the walls play doesn't make as much of an impact in a set up cycle), and the fact that he's a somewhat puck dominant, shoot first centre means he's not necessarily the best fit with puck dominant, shoot first 1st line wingers (like Kessel).
He'd be an acceptable 1st line centre, but he's a great 2nd line centre. In general the 2nd line centre has a similar role to the 1st line centre, except with more of an ES focus (less PP time), and with worse wingers, and that suits Grabo perfectly. Also, if we moved Grabo up to the 1st line, we'd be a 1 line team, Grabo is really the only reason that our 2nd line is able to consistently generate offence.
It's the fact that he isn't tearing up the score every game at a PPG rate or better for some people to understand this. Why would management give him the contract he has if they didn't see what he brings to the team?
He does need to step it up, but he has 18 shots on goal so far. Which really stems from the fact that he is being used to shut down the other teams top lines (and hes been doing a solid job). Im not making an excuse, just stating thats a contributing factor. I know he still needs to start producing more thou, and I am sure it will come. If he can produce on his regular pace (33 points this year) and be facing the other teams top lines while shutting them down, he will be earning his paycheck.
a) you do not pay your 2nd line center 5.5 million per season to be a checking center.
b) he has not been fantastic. He's been passable as a checker. It's not his game
c) he is not the biggest reason we've been winning
d) this is not his first bad game
e) he is not going to produce 40-45 even strength points if he's being used as a checker. He's not likely to get 40-45 points total the way he's playing/being used. Based on his current play, he'd only be on pace for 35 points, and only 23 even strength in a full 82 games schedule.
f) he's also only playing 0:18 a game on the penalty kill
a) Yes, you can. We are, and are winning.
b) He has been fantastic as a checker. That is probably more his game than anything else.
c) He is one of the biggest reasons. And is also a big contributor to our young forwards having great seasons.
d) Yes, it was.
e) This is not the first year he has been used in a checking role. So yes, he should still put up 40-45 points in a checking role, as he has for 2 years.
And small sample size. Small sample size. Small sample size.
f) What's your point? He can play the PK. That doesn't mean he should if we have options that don't play every other shift against elite scorers, and are apparently expected to be elite offensively as well.
Originally Posted by Sypher04
Just because he's being used as a checker and we've been winning, doesn't mean he's that good at it.
Just because you say he is a bad checker and have no proof to back it up, doesn't mean he is bad at it.
Originally Posted by Sypher04
Grabovski has been on the ice for 11 of 23 even strength goals scored against us this season. So, almost half.
Now I wonder why the player who is always out against the best players who score the most would have the most goals scored against him... Hmmm...
Originally Posted by Penalty Kill Icing
A guy can't be just a checking center for 5.5 million. There is production expected from him as well.
If that checking center puts up 40-45 even strength points as well, which Grabovski has for 2 years now (placing him as a top-15-20ish center in the league), then even if he is taken off the powerplay, playing him 5.5 million is still not a problem.
Originally Posted by GoodCanadianBoy
He's very streaky. Everybody should know this. Question is can the leafs afford to have streaky players on their team ?
Assuming he is actually as streaky as people falsely claim on here, why is that bad? Who cares when in the season he scores his points? If he scores a goal every game for 5 games, are those 5 goals worth less than ones spread out throughout the season?
No. Even when he is not scoring, he is doing everything else you want out of a forward. So who cares when the scoring is in the season?