HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Peter Holland to Toronto ?

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
12-05-2012, 06:03 PM
  #1
WhatASaveDave
Registered User
 
WhatASaveDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: toronto ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,781
vCash: 500
Peter Holland to Toronto ?

Is Peter Holland a player the anaheim ducks are willing to move? If so, what would it take ?

In 94 games in the American Hockey League, Peter has 36 goals and 87 points

Hopefully Brian Burke can steal this guy from Anaheim as well

WhatASaveDave is offline  
Old
12-05-2012, 06:05 PM
  #2
TheHudlinator
Registered User
 
TheHudlinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Victoria,BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,837
vCash: 354
Given that he is one of the best players in the AHL, and could really help Anahiem's depth issue I would imagine it would take a pretty big overpayment.

TheHudlinator is offline  
Old
12-05-2012, 06:06 PM
  #3
Brody
$$
 
Brody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Paris
Posts: 7,512
vCash: 560
I think they plan on him being the second line center behind Getzlaf, assuming he re-signs. Holland is a great two-way center, his ceiling is a second line C imo, but it'll be really hard to pry him away for Murray and the Ducks.

Brody is offline  
Old
12-05-2012, 06:10 PM
  #4
Exit Dose
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Cerritos, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 18,148
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brody View Post
I think they plan on him being the second line center behind Getzlaf, assuming he re-signs. Holland is a great two-way center, his ceiling is a second line C imo, but it'll be really hard to pry him away for Murray and the Ducks.
I couldn't put it any better.

Exit Dose is offline  
Old
12-05-2012, 06:12 PM
  #5
Gibson Les Palms
Registered User
 
Gibson Les Palms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,454
vCash: 50
This is the best we've ever seen Holland play. No way he goes anywhere anytime soon.

Gibson Les Palms is offline  
Old
12-05-2012, 06:17 PM
  #6
DuckJet
Destiny pls
 
DuckJet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Funkytown
Country: Kazakhstan
Posts: 36,804
vCash: 69
As others have said, the way he's currently playing he's looking like a solid threat to make our top 6. It might not be a return that Toronto can swallow.

But if Toronto's interested, that's how we know Holland has made it

DuckJet is offline  
Old
12-05-2012, 06:26 PM
  #7
Mystifo
Lol Doodle.
 
Mystifo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: YYT
Country: Russian Federation
Posts: 2,771
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckJet View Post
As others have said, the way he's currently playing he's looking like a solid threat to make our top 6. It might not be a return that Toronto can swallow.

But if Toronto's interested, that's how we know Holland has made it
Glad to know if Toronto fans make a thread about you C prospect then in makes him valuable.

But yeah I doubt the leafs will give up what is needed for Holland.

Mystifo is offline  
Old
12-05-2012, 07:31 PM
  #8
Gliff
Nick Bonino
 
Gliff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: California
Country: United States
Posts: 8,928
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatASaveDave View Post
Is Peter Holland a player the anaheim ducks are willing to move? If so, what would it take ?

In 94 games in the American Hockey League, Peter has 36 goals and 87 points

Hopefully Brian Burke can steal this guy from Anaheim as well
Great way to start a thread asking for a fair value.

Gliff is offline  
Old
12-05-2012, 07:48 PM
  #9
DuckJet
Destiny pls
 
DuckJet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Funkytown
Country: Kazakhstan
Posts: 36,804
vCash: 69
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystifo View Post
Glad to know if Toronto fans make a thread about you C prospect then in makes him valuable.

But yeah I doubt the leafs will give up what is needed for Holland.
Relax. I was only semi-serious.

DuckJet is offline  
Old
12-05-2012, 08:15 PM
  #10
Mystifo
Lol Doodle.
 
Mystifo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: YYT
Country: Russian Federation
Posts: 2,771
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckJet View Post
Relax. I was only semi-serious.
Too late Screenshotted can't take it back now.

Mystifo is offline  
Old
12-05-2012, 08:58 PM
  #11
seanlinden
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 18,108
vCash: 500
Just doesn't make sense for the Leafs to pay the price for Holland. He's finally showing why Anaheim drafted him so high, and is a virtual lock to play a fairly substantial role with the Ducks considering the quality of their centres.

For the Leafs, he's a guy who falls somewhere in the middle of a group of centres that already has a few too many bodies, and even in a best case scenario, is probably Toronto's 3rd or 4th best centre. The Leafs simply can't place as much value on him as the Ducks can.

The problem with Toronto's group of centres -- there's no easy upgrade to be made. They're not a team like Anaheim, Vancouver, or Chicago, who would benefit greatly from a solid middle-of-the-lineup centre. The Leafs have 4-5 of them... the only type of centre that can drastically improve their group is a bonafide top line guy.

seanlinden is online now  
Old
12-05-2012, 09:09 PM
  #12
Exit Dose
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Cerritos, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 18,148
vCash: 500
I think people need to remember that the well Burke has been drawing from here is starting to run dry. While he stood a good chance to land some of the holdovers from his tenure, Murray isn't likely to part with the players he brought in, or claimed ownership of, as easily. At this point, I could see guys like Beleskey shipped off to the Leafs, if someone like Maroon proves a better option, but I don't see guys like Smith-Pelly or Holland as guys Burke has a good chance of pulling in a trade.

Exit Dose is offline  
Old
12-06-2012, 04:42 AM
  #13
Paul4587
Registered User
 
Paul4587's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 13,938
vCash: 500
Holland + for Grabovski. That's about the only realistic piece the Ducks would be interested in.


Last edited by Paul4587: 12-06-2012 at 04:55 AM.
Paul4587 is offline  
Old
12-06-2012, 05:09 AM
  #14
sniper81
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: toronto
Posts: 1,079
vCash: 500
Good luck. Ducks are very high on him and rightfully so

sniper81 is offline  
Old
12-06-2012, 05:18 AM
  #15
Exit Dose
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Cerritos, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 18,148
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul4587 View Post
Holland + for Grabovski. That's about the only realistic piece the Ducks would be interested in.
My gut reaction was to say not even that, but after thinking about it for a moment, offering Holland plus one of Palmieri or Smith-Pelly, maybe even Beleskey or McMillan on top of DSP or KP, sounds like the exact sort of trade Murray would make. Those were all guys that Carlyle was high on.

Exit Dose is offline  
Old
12-06-2012, 05:22 AM
  #16
KEEROLE Vatanen
Failures Of Fenwick
 
KEEROLE Vatanen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,643
vCash: 500
At this point I think it's best for Anaheim to roll the dice with him, should there be a season. He just plays a pro style game and his talent is what you design a prototypical top 2 line center to be, good size at 6'3, very good skater, excellent shot, his play away from the puck is improving, has the ability to slow the game down when he has the puck.

and he's on a rookie scale contract, something very important to Anaheim

KEEROLE Vatanen is offline  
Old
12-06-2012, 05:46 AM
  #17
sniper81
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: toronto
Posts: 1,079
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exit Dose View Post
My gut reaction was to say not even that, but after thinking about it for a moment, offering Holland plus one of Palmieri or Smith-Pelly, maybe even Beleskey or McMillan on top of DSP or KP, sounds like the exact sort of trade Murray would make. Those were all guys that Carlyle was high on.
I would hope Burke would be all for that

sniper81 is offline  
Old
12-06-2012, 07:15 AM
  #18
Leaf Rocket
Leaf Fan Till I Die
 
Leaf Rocket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fredericton, NB
Country: India
Posts: 70,635
vCash: 500
Can't see it unless Murray wants a guy like Grabo or Bozie to play behind Getzlaf instead of Holland. Although Holland fills a big organizational need in the center area.

__________________
Leaf Rocket is offline  
Old
12-06-2012, 08:34 AM
  #19
Liferleafer
RIP Mrs Doubtfire
 
Liferleafer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 9,359
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exit Dose View Post
My gut reaction was to say not even that, but after thinking about it for a moment, offering Holland plus one of Palmieri or Smith-Pelly, maybe even Beleskey or McMillan on top of DSP or KP, sounds like the exact sort of trade Murray would make. Those were all guys that Carlyle was high on.
My gut reaction was to say no way....but i'm actually quite intrigued with this.

Liferleafer is offline  
Old
12-06-2012, 08:50 AM
  #20
Force951
Registered User
 
Force951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Posts: 2,355
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exit Dose View Post
My gut reaction was to say not even that, but after thinking about it for a moment, offering Holland plus one of Palmieri or Smith-Pelly, maybe even Beleskey or McMillan on top of DSP or KP, sounds like the exact sort of trade Murray would make. Those were all guys that Carlyle was high on.
I wouldn't trade Holland and DPS/Palmieri for Grabo. He is overpaid and giving up Holland and one of the wings we will need next year while on ELC's is too much.

Force951 is online now  
Old
12-06-2012, 09:24 AM
  #21
The Podium
Formerly chrisx101
 
The Podium's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 11,360
vCash: 657
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exit Dose View Post
My gut reaction was to say not even that, but after thinking about it for a moment, offering Holland plus one of Palmieri or Smith-Pelly, maybe even Beleskey or McMillan on top of DSP or KP, sounds like the exact sort of trade Murray would make. Those were all guys that Carlyle was high on.
Id strongly consider this, especially if we can sign a C replacement this summer (Weiss or Roy preferably).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Force951 View Post
I wouldn't trade Holland and DPS/Palmieri for Grabo. He is overpaid and giving up Holland and one of the wings we will need next year while on ELC's is too much.
Again, his pay is in the range of similarly producing players

The Podium is offline  
Old
12-06-2012, 09:27 AM
  #22
Gliff
Nick Bonino
 
Gliff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: California
Country: United States
Posts: 8,928
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Podium View Post
Id strongly consider this, especially if we can sign a C replacement this summer (Weiss or Roy preferably).



Again, his pay is in the range of similarly producing players
That doesnt change the fact that an ELC has tremendous value to the Ducks. If Holland can come in and be a 40 point guy on his ELC then i would take that over Grabo having a 60 point season at his cap.

Gliff is offline  
Old
12-06-2012, 09:30 AM
  #23
Vipers31
Moderator
Advanced Stagnostic
 
Vipers31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bergisch Gladbach
Country: Germany
Posts: 11,109
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exit Dose View Post
My gut reaction was to say not even that, but after thinking about it for a moment, offering Holland plus one of Palmieri or Smith-Pelly, maybe even Beleskey or McMillan on top of DSP or KP, sounds like the exact sort of trade Murray would make.
Really? I don't see him going for that, at all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Podium View Post
Again, his pay is in the range of similarly producing players
True, no question. Given the money we've had to work with, I don't believe the Ducks would have been among the teams paying that for the type of production. But in general, it's pretty much where the market was.

Vipers31 is offline  
Old
12-06-2012, 10:17 AM
  #24
Mystifo
Lol Doodle.
 
Mystifo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: YYT
Country: Russian Federation
Posts: 2,771
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exit Dose View Post
My gut reaction was to say not even that, but after thinking about it for a moment, offering Holland plus one of Palmieri or Smith-Pelly, maybe even Beleskey or McMillan on top of DSP or KP, sounds like the exact sort of trade Murray would make. Those were all guys that Carlyle was high on.
Holland and DSP for Grabovski? Sure why not but I have a feeling most Ducks fans will hate this.

Mystifo is offline  
Old
12-06-2012, 10:51 AM
  #25
WildcatMapleLeafs28
Registered User
 
WildcatMapleLeafs28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Atlantic Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,975
vCash: 500
Holland for Bozak

WildcatMapleLeafs28 is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:52 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.