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12-04-2012, 01:33 PM
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Rory is going to knockout B.J. Penn? Rory has never displayed K.O. power in the UFC and B.J. is extremely hard to finish. If anyone is getting knocked out...its Rory. I see this fight going the distance but my heart is hoping for a B.J. KO.
His last 2 wins are TKOs.



I wouldnt be disappointed at all to see BJ win. I'd like to see him in the thick of things, but I think he picked the wrong opponent, here.

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12-04-2012, 03:44 PM
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His last 2 wins are TKOs.



I wouldnt be disappointed at all to see BJ win. I'd like to see him in the thick of things, but I think he picked the wrong opponent, here.
All I'm saying if this turns into a boxing match..B.J. will have a distinct advantage. Rory will probably takes this via decision because finishing Mike Pyle and Che Mills is different than trying to finish B.J. Penn.

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12-04-2012, 05:55 PM
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BJ Penn has one of the best chins in MMA history. I would be shocked if he was even knocked down in this fight much less knocked out.

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12-04-2012, 06:06 PM
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Rory's best chance for a TKO is if he's able to get BJ down and inflict a lot of damage from there but I get the feeling that Rory's not going to want to spend a lot of time on the canvas with BJ unless it's near the end of a round or if he's already done some damage in the stand-up.

I expect Rory to win the fight, but I think it will be via decision by using his size and reach advantage to keep Penn to the outside and out muscling in the clinch and against the cage.

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12-04-2012, 07:48 PM
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Rory's best chance for a TKO is if he's able to get BJ down and inflict a lot of damage from there but I get the feeling that Rory's not going to want to spend a lot of time on the canvas with BJ unless it's near the end of a round or if he's already done some damage in the stand-up.

I expect Rory to win the fight, but I think it will be via decision by using his size and reach advantage to keep Penn to the outside and out muscling in the clinch and against the cage.
That's not Rory's style.

He takes the fight to his opponent. I dont think that is going to change on Saturday. I think he beats up Penn badly. Could be Penn's last fight in fact.

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12-05-2012, 08:58 AM
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I've been a BJ fan forever but this thread is starting to lack the general understanding of how dangerous Rory is.

He almost finished Carlos as a 19 yr old kid, ko'ing a declining Penn certainly is within the realm of possibility.

Even though bj is the more tecnical striker his only chance in this fight is to pull off a sub.

Rory is too young, too strong, too fast, too good. His pace will even out that technical aspect, IMO. Bj could even take the opening round but a he slows, rory won't & he'll start takin over on the feet also.

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He takes I think he beats up Penn badly. Could be Penn's last fight in fact.
Yup, me too and I'm not really looking forward to seeing Penn go out like that.

I think this fight turns into more of a beatdown than the last GSP/Penn fight. Bj will retire for good this time, which is unfortunate as he'd still have a lot left for 155.

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12-05-2012, 01:43 PM
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why does BJ keep fighting in 170? He seems much better suited for 155

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12-05-2012, 02:14 PM
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Main Card (FOX):
Lightweight Championship Bout: Benson Henderson (c) vs Nate Diaz
Light Heavyweight Bout: Shogun Rua vs Alexander Gustafsson
Welterweight Bout: B.J. Penn vs Rory MacDonald
Welterweight Bout: Mike Swick vs Matt Brown

Preliminary Card (FX):
Bantamweight Bout: Raphael Assuncao vs Mike Easton
Featherweight Bout: Dennis Siver vs Nam Phan
Lightweight Bout: Ramsey Nijem vs Joe Proctor
Lightweight Bout: Yves Edwards vs Jeremy Stephens


Preliminary Card (Facebook):
Lightweight Bout: Daniel Cruickshank vs Henry Martinez
Bantamweight Bout: Scott Jorgensen vs John Albert
Lightweight Bout: Tim Means vs Abel Trujillo

Henderson by decison
Shogun ko 2nd round
Rory tko 3rd round
Swick KO 1st round

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12-05-2012, 02:20 PM
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Rory has a suspect chin and poor striking defense. This will be an extremely tough match up for him early in the fight as BJ has great standup and is very difficult to take down. I could honestly see either man winning in dominant fashion, although I favor Rory.

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12-05-2012, 02:28 PM
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I hope BJ subs him

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I've been a BJ fan forever but this thread is starting to lack the general understanding of how dangerous Rory is.

He almost finished Carlos as a 19 yr old kid, ko'ing a declining Penn certainly is within the realm of possibility.

Even though bj is the more tecnical striker his only chance in this fight is to pull off a sub.

Rory is too young, too strong, too fast, too good. His pace will even out that technical aspect, IMO. Bj could even take the opening round but a he slows, rory won't & he'll start takin over on the feet also.


Yup, me too and I'm not really looking forward to seeing Penn go out like that.

I think this fight turns into more of a beatdown than the last GSP/Penn fight. Bj will retire for good this time, which is unfortunate as he'd still have a lot left for 155.
He almost finished Condit? I remember him taking him down but I don't recall him ever in trouble of being finished.

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12-05-2012, 04:57 PM
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why does BJ keep fighting in 170? He seems much better suited for 155
He's 34 years old so it's probably hard for him to cut the weight. I also doubt he's a guy who is in the gym training hard every single day. He might have been exaggerating a bit but he said he was at 40% body fat when the fight was Rory was first announced.

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12-05-2012, 07:37 PM
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A bit? Lol. He'd have to be 220 pounds at 5'9" to be 40% bf. He'd be bigger than Bane.

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A bit? Lol. He'd have to be 220 pounds at 5'9" to be 40% bf. He'd be bigger than Bane.
I have faith in BJ to get up to 200 lbs. Matt Serra did it, so can BJ.

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12-06-2012, 12:13 AM
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Penn will do fine with Rory in the first round because he can probably hang with just about anyone for a round. I have a feeling it gets ugly after that.

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Rampage.

It's a pretty strong division, at the top, and I just dont think Rua is in the conversation anymore. A great performance against Gus will make me rethink.
Well yes Rampage squeaked out a controversial decision from Machida, but my point was no one has beaten him like Jones aside from Shogun, meaning in impressive fashion.

Shogun's nearing +200 in this one. Lot of people are gonna be making some money come Saturday night.

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12-06-2012, 07:55 AM
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Making my picks before I head to Seattle!

Lightweight Championship Bout: Benson Henderson (c) vs Nate Diaz
Light Heavyweight Bout: Shogun Rua vs Alexander Gustafsson
Welterweight Bout: B.J. Penn vs Rory MacDonald
Welterweight Bout: Mike Swick vs Matt Brown

Preliminary Card (FX):
Lightweight Bout: Yves Edwards vs Jeremy Stephens
Bantamweight Bout: Raphael Assuncao vs Mike Easton
Lightweight Bout: Ramsey Nijem vs Joe Proctor
Lightweight Bout: Daniel Cruickshank vs Henry Martinez
Lightweight Bout: Marcus Levasseur vs Abel Trujillo
Featherweight Bout: Dennis Siver vs Nam Phan

Preliminary Card (Facebook):

Bantamweight Bout: Scott Jorgensen vs John Albert


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Main Card (FOX):
Lightweight Championship Bout: Benson Henderson (c) vs Nate Diaz
Light Heavyweight Bout: Shogun Rua vs Alexander Gustafsson
Welterweight Bout: B.J. Penn vs Rory MacDonald
Welterweight Bout: Mike Swick vs Matt Brown

Preliminary Card (FX):
Lightweight Bout: Yves Edwards vs Jeremy Stephens
Bantamweight Bout: Raphael Assuncao vs Mike Easton
Featherweight Bout: Dennis Siver vs Nam Phan
Bantamweight Bout: Scott Jorgensen vs John Albert
Lightweight Bout: Ramsey Nijem vs Joe Proctor
Lightweight Bout: Daniel Cruickshank vs Henry Martinez
Lightweight Bout: Marcus Levasseur vs Abel Trujillo



-- I wish they would put Siver and Phan on the main card. Despite those two be smaller guys, they both love to trade punches... that one should be fire works. I think Phan is one tough dude.... Siver is just too big (as a super sized featherweight).


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Main Card (FOX):
Lightweight Championship Bout: Benson Henderson (c) vs Nate Diaz
Light Heavyweight Bout: Shogun Rua vs Alexander Gustafsson
Welterweight Bout: B.J. Penn vs Rory MacDonald
Welterweight Bout: Mike Swick vs Matt Brown

Preliminary Card (FX):
Lightweight Bout: Ramsey Nijem vs Joe Proctor
Bantamweight Bout: Raphael Assuncao vs Mike Easton
Lightweight Bout: Yves Edwards vs Jeremy Stephens

Preliminary Card (Facebook):
Lightweight Bout: Daniel Cruickshank vs Henry Martinez
Bantamweight Bout: Scott Jorgensen vs John Albert
Lightweight Bout: Marcus Levasseur vs Abel Trujillo
Featherweight Bout: Dennis Siver vs Nam Phan

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12-06-2012, 11:25 AM
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For those who haven't added Raphael Assuncao vs Mike Easton to your picks, do so now.

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A bit? Lol. He'd have to be 220 pounds at 5'9" to be 40% bf. He'd be bigger than Bane.
Well BJ did fight Lyoto at 205.

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Great card. I'm a big Diaz fan, but I think this is a bad matchup for him.


Main Card (FOX):
Lightweight Championship Bout: Benson Henderson (c) vs Nate Diaz
Light Heavyweight Bout: Shogun Rua vs Alexander Gustafsson
Welterweight Bout: B.J. Penn vs Rory MacDonald
Welterweight Bout: Mike Swick vs Matt Brown

Preliminary Card (FX):
Heavyweight Bout: Brendan Schaub vs Lavar Johnson
Lightweight Bout: Ramsey Nijem vs Joe Proctor
Lightweight Bout: Yves Edwards vs Jeremy Stephens

Preliminary Card (Facebook):
Lightweight Bout: Daniel Cruickshank vs Henry Martinez
Bantamweight Bout: Scott Jorgensen vs John Albert
Lightweight Bout: Tim Means vs Abel Trujillo
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Raphael Assuncao vs Mike Easton
Featherweight Bout: Dennis Siver vs Nam Phan


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12-06-2012, 03:16 PM
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Well BJ did fight Lyoto at 205.
It was open weight. Machida was well over 205.

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Main Card (FOX):
Lightweight Championship Bout: Benson Henderson (c) vs Nate Diaz
Light Heavyweight Bout: Shogun Rua vs Alexander Gustafsson
Welterweight Bout: B.J. Penn vs Rory MacDonald
Welterweight Bout: Mike Swick vs Matt Brown

Preliminary Card (FX):
Lightweight Bout: Ramsey Nijem vs Joe Proctor
Bantamweight Bout: Raphael Assuncao vs Mike Easton
Lightweight Bout: Yves Edwards vs Jeremy Stephens

Preliminary Card (Facebook):
Lightweight Bout: Daniel Cruickshank vs Henry Martinez
Bantamweight Bout: Scott Jorgensen vs John Albert
Lightweight Bout: Tim Means vs Abel Trujillo


Ahh going with my heart rather than my head in the main event, Nate is one of my top 3 favorite fighters, I hope I'm right and he'll win, but I just think he's gonna have a hard time dealing with the size and strength of Bendo, I think he'll be catching a lot of leg kicks in this one which may slow him down.

Also I'm really rooting for BJ, and I don't think he gets bulldozed, but unless he catches him with a sub or KO somehow I think Rory takes it.

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Main Card (FOX):
Lightweight Championship Bout: Benson Henderson (c) vs Nate Diaz
Light Heavyweight Bout: Shogun Rua vs Alexander Gustafsson
Welterweight Bout: B.J. Penn vs Rory MacDonald
Welterweight Bout: Mike Swick vs Matt Brown

Preliminary Card (FX):
Lightweight Bout: Ramsey Nijem vs Joe Proctor
Bantamweight Bout: Raphael Assuncao vs Mike Easton
Lightweight Bout: Yves Edwards vs Jeremy Stephens

Preliminary Card (Facebook):
Lightweight Bout: Daron Cruickshank vs Henry Martinez
Bantamweight Bout: Scott Jorgensen vs John Albert
Lightweight Bout: Marcus Levasseur vs Abel Trujillo
Featherweight Bout: Dennis Siver vs Nam Phan

Why are some of you not including the Siver/Phan fight?

Did I miss something?

I just found out that Means isn't fighting. I know the card's already started (it's the 3rd round of the Siver fight right now) so if that fight doesn't count for me that's fine.


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When did they add Siver/Phan?

Everyone add Siver/Phan then.

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