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Nazem Kadri vs Jakob Silfverberg

View Poll Results: Who is the better prospect?
kadri 72 31.72%
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11-27-2012, 06:55 PM
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yeah, not since the legendary days of David Runblad have we seen such SEL dominance from a youngster.
I suppose you believe Rundblad is a bust now.

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What is your definition of skill? He said offensive skill. People think Kadri is better because he pulls off good one vs one moves but offensive skill or just skill is foundation of many attributes such as: Passing, goal-scoring, hockey IQ, vision, skating, puck-handling, offensive awareness. Like I said, Kadri has only puck-handling where it's evidently better than Silfverberg but Silfverberg relies on other components to define his offensive skill like his passing, shooting, awareness, and vision.

Just cause a guy can dangle does not mean he has more skill. Oh, I'd also say Kadri has better skating which allows him to finesse and weave better, hard to do that anymore when you're fat, though
Kadri's skill level is better. Silfverberg shoots the puck better in the same margin Kadri's skill level is better.

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yeah, not since the legendary days of David Runblad have we seen such SEL dominance from a youngster.
Were you even trying to make a point here?

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something along the lines of you guys (for the second year in a row) vastly overrating the signficance of a good euro season, i think.

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something along the lines of you guys (for the second year in a row) vastly overrating the signficance of a good euro season, i think.
I was one that opined that Rundblad would be in for a tough adjustment and would be hard pressed to ever run wild on smaller ice like he did in Sweden. But he's not a lost cause at all as a prospect, just has to adapt and find a new way to use his skills. I don't think he'll ever quite live up, but there's probably a good player there at least.

But I mean this isn't all that relevant when comparing him to the constraints of a 2nd line prospect talent like Kadri. Their exploits in the SEL are reason to believe they'll be at least that good...and there's a good chance they will be.

And to be fair, Silfverberg's body of work was more impressive than Rundblad's...and the respect Silfverberg got in Sweden universally appeared much greater.

Not to mention, jury's still out on these players at 21 years old...especially Silfverberg who's getting better quickly every day in his first couple months in Sweden. There are limitations to his game...and I'm not convinced there's a true 1st liner there as far as production's concerned. You might actually get a player striving to be like Jere Lehtinen was...although I'm not expecting Silverberg to win Selke's from the wing.

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something along the lines of you guys (for the second year in a row) vastly overrating the signficance of a good euro season, i think.
And Leaf fans didn't overrate Kadri after his pre-season with the Leafs right after his draft year? I remember reading in the Trade Proposal section that Leafs fans wouldn't put Kadri in a proposal for Spezza.

Both teams have hyped their guys. Using a 16 game stat line is pretty weak, though. That's without considering anything else, such as the fact it's Kadri's third AHL year and Silfverberg's first on NA ice.

You're right, though. Silfverberg is wayyyyy overrated. Has Kadri put up 90 points in the NHL yet?

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you guys remind me of leaf fans who argued schenn was better than karlsson.

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you guys remind me of leaf fans who argued schenn was better than karlsson.
The logic isn't very good here.

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we should probably be comparing 22 year old Silfverberg to 22 year old Colborne, actually.

both 40-50pt AHL guys with decent all around games.

Colborne has the size advantage, though, so that probably makes him the safer prospect, not to mention he plays the more important position.

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speaking of which, weren't you guys crowing about how much better all your prospects wre than all the leafs' prospects all offseason?

let's do an early season comparison update, keeping it to the top-15 or so:


D M.Rielly (18, W): CHL - 26gms, 4gls, 22pts, +2, 5pim (82gms, 13gls, 69pts, +6, 16pim)
C M.Zibanejad (19): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 7pts, -3, 4pim (82gms, 5gls, 36pts, -15, 21pim)

C N.Kadri (22): AHL - 17gms, 2gls, 16pts, +3, 22pim (82gms, 10gls, 77pts, +15, 106pim)
G R.Lehner (21): AHL - 12gms, 8-2-1, 1.63gaa, 1so, .950sv%

W M.Frattin (24): AHL - 5gms, 5gls, 5pts, -1, 2pim (82gms, 82gls, 82pts, -16, 33pim)
W M.Stone (20): AHL - 10gms, 1gls, 6pts, +6, 4pim (82gms, 8gls, 49pts, +49, 33pim)

C J.Colborne (22): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 6pts, +3, 25pim (82gms, 5gls, 31pts, +15, 128pim)
W J.Silfverberg (22): AHL - 16gms, 3gls, 9pts, +0, 2pim (82gms, 15gls, 46pts, +0, 10pim)

D M.Finn (18): CHL - 21gms, 8gls, 18pts, +3, 16pim (82gms, 31gls, 70pts, +12, 63pim)
D C.Ceci (18): CHL - 27gms, 7gls, 28pts, -9, 10pim (82gms, 21gls, 85pts, -27, 30pim)



W T.Biggs (19): CHL - 28gms, 14gls, 29pts, +10, 42pim (82gms, 41gls, 85pts, +29, 123pim)
W S.Noesen (19): CHL - 21gms, 14gls, 22pts, -5, 18pim (82gms, 55gls, 86pts, -20, 70pim)

D S.Percy (19): CHL - 26gms, 6gls, 16pts, +7, 8pim (82gms, 19gls, 51pts, +22, 25pim)
W M.Puempel (19): CHL - 26gms, 21gls, 28pts, +8, 21pim (82gms, 66gls, 88pts, +25, 66pim)

C G.McKegg (20): AHL - 14gms, 2gls, 4pts, +1, 2pim (82gms, 12gls, 23pts, +6, 12pim)
W S.Prince (20): AHL - 8gms, 2gls, 3pts, +2, 2pim (82gms, 21gls, 31pts, +21, 21pim)

W C.Ashton (21): AHL - 17gms, 4gls, 6pts, +6, 15pim (82gms, 19gls, 29pts, +29, 72pim)
D P.Wiercioch (22): AHL - 15gms, 4gls, 5pts, +9, 14pim (82gms, 22gls, 27pts, +49, 77pim)

W J.D'Amigo (21): AHL - 15gms, 2gls, 6pts, +1, 6pim (82gms, 11gls, 33pts, +6, 33pim)
W J.Pageau (20): AHL - 15gms, 0gls, 5pts, +2, 4pim (82gms, 0gls, 27pts, +11, 22pim)


G M.Owuya (23): AHL - 3gms, 1-2-0, 3.72gaa, 0so, .820sv%
C M.Hoffman (23): AHL - 16gms, 2gls, 6pts, +3, 14pim (82gms, 10gls, 31pts, +15, 72pim)

W N.Deschamps (22): AHL - 16gms, 4gls, 5pts, +2, 14pim (82gms, 21gls, 26pts, +10, 72pim)
W A.Petersson (22): AHL - 16gms, 2gls, 5pts, -5, 16pim (82gms, 10gls, 26pts, -26, 82pim)

D J.Blacker (21): AHL - 12gms, 0gls, 1pts, +3, 13pim (82gms, 0gls, 7pts, +21, 89pim)
D F.Claesson (20): AHL - 14gms, 0gls, 5pts, +2, 24pim (82gms, 0gls, 29pts, +12, 141pim)

D K.Holzer (24): AHL - 15gms, 1gls, 4pts, +6, 14pim (82gms, 6gls, 22pts, +33, 76pim)
D M.Borowiecki (23): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 4pts, +5, 71pim (82gms, 5gls, 21pts, +26, 364pim)

W S.Abbott (24): AHL - 5gms, 1gls, 6pts, +3, 0pim (82gms, 16gls, 98pts, +49, 0pim)
C S.DaCosta (23): AHL - 5gms, 0gls, 1pts, -2, 0pim (82gms, 0gls, 16pts, -33, 0pim)

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we should probably be comparing 22 year old Silfverberg to 22 year old Colborne, actually.

both 40-50pt AHL guys with decent all around games.

Colborne has the size advantage, though, so that probably makes him the safer prospect, not to mention he plays the more important position.



16 games into his north american hockey career silf is declared a 40 point AHLer who is worse than coalborn

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speaking of which, weren't you guys crowing about how much better all your prospects wre than all the leafs' prospects all offseason?

let's do an early season comparison update, keeping it to the top-15 or so:


D M.Rielly (18, W): CHL - 26gms, 4gls, 22pts, +2, 5pim (82gms, 13gls, 69pts, +6, 16pim)
C M.Zibanejad (19): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 7pts, -3, 4pim (82gms, 5gls, 36pts, -15, 21pim)

C N.Kadri (22): AHL - 17gms, 2gls, 16pts, +3, 22pim (82gms, 10gls, 77pts, +15, 106pim)
G R.Lehner (21): AHL - 12gms, 8-2-1, 1.63gaa, 1so, .950sv%

W M.Frattin (24): AHL - 5gms, 5gls, 5pts, -1, 2pim (82gms, 82gls, 82pts, -16, 33pim)
W M.Stone (20): AHL - 10gms, 1gls, 6pts, +6, 4pim (82gms, 8gls, 49pts, +49, 33pim)

C J.Colborne (22): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 6pts, +3, 25pim (82gms, 5gls, 31pts, +15, 128pim)
W J.Silfverberg (22): AHL - 16gms, 3gls, 9pts, +0, 2pim (82gms, 15gls, 46pts, +0, 10pim)

D M.Finn (18): CHL - 21gms, 8gls, 18pts, +3, 16pim (82gms, 31gls, 70pts, +12, 63pim)
D C.Ceci (18): CHL - 27gms, 7gls, 28pts, -9, 10pim (82gms, 21gls, 85pts, -27, 30pim)



W T.Biggs (19): CHL - 28gms, 14gls, 29pts, +10, 42pim (82gms, 41gls, 85pts, +29, 123pim)
W S.Noesen (19): CHL - 21gms, 14gls, 22pts, -5, 18pim (82gms, 55gls, 86pts, -20, 70pim)

D S.Percy (19): CHL - 26gms, 6gls, 16pts, +7, 8pim (82gms, 19gls, 51pts, +22, 25pim)
W M.Puempel (19): CHL - 26gms, 21gls, 28pts, +8, 21pim (82gms, 66gls, 88pts, +25, 66pim)

C G.McKegg (20): AHL - 14gms, 2gls, 4pts, +1, 2pim (82gms, 12gls, 23pts, +6, 12pim)
W S.Prince (20): AHL - 8gms, 2gls, 3pts, +2, 2pim (82gms, 21gls, 31pts, +21, 21pim)

W C.Ashton (21): AHL - 17gms, 4gls, 6pts, +6, 15pim (82gms, 19gls, 29pts, +29, 72pim)
D P.Wiercioch (22): AHL - 15gms, 4gls, 5pts, +9, 14pim (82gms, 22gls, 27pts, +49, 77pim)

W J.D'Amigo (21): AHL - 15gms, 2gls, 6pts, +1, 6pim (82gms, 11gls, 33pts, +6, 33pim)
W J.Pageau (20): AHL - 15gms, 0gls, 5pts, +2, 4pim (82gms, 0gls, 27pts, +11, 22pim)


G M.Owuya (23): AHL - 3gms, 1-2-0, 3.72gaa, 0so, .820sv%
C M.Hoffman (23): AHL - 16gms, 2gls, 6pts, +3, 14pim (82gms, 10gls, 31pts, +15, 72pim)

W N.Deschamps (22): AHL - 16gms, 4gls, 5pts, +2, 14pim (82gms, 21gls, 26pts, +10, 72pim)
W A.Petersson (22): AHL - 16gms, 2gls, 5pts, -5, 16pim (82gms, 10gls, 26pts, -26, 82pim)

D J.Blacker (21): AHL - 12gms, 0gls, 1pts, +3, 13pim (82gms, 0gls, 7pts, +21, 89pim)
D F.Claesson (20): AHL - 14gms, 0gls, 5pts, +2, 24pim (82gms, 0gls, 29pts, +12, 141pim)

D K.Holzer (24): AHL - 15gms, 1gls, 4pts, +6, 14pim (82gms, 6gls, 22pts, +33, 76pim)
D M.Borowiecki (23): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 4pts, +5, 71pim (82gms, 5gls, 21pts, +26, 364pim)

W S.Abbott (24): AHL - 5gms, 1gls, 6pts, +3, 0pim (82gms, 16gls, 98pts, +49, 0pim)
C S.DaCosta (23): AHL - 5gms, 0gls, 1pts, -2, 0pim (82gms, 0gls, 16pts, -33, 0pim)
This crap is so stupid lol.

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speaking of which, weren't you guys crowing about how much better all your prospects wre than all the leafs' prospects all offseason?

let's do an early season comparison update, keeping it to the top-15 or so:


D M.Rielly (18, W): CHL - 26gms, 4gls, 22pts, +2, 5pim (82gms, 13gls, 69pts, +6, 16pim)
C M.Zibanejad (19): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 7pts, -3, 4pim (82gms, 5gls, 36pts, -15, 21pim)

C N.Kadri (22): AHL - 17gms, 2gls, 16pts, +3, 22pim (82gms, 10gls, 77pts, +15, 106pim)
G R.Lehner (21): AHL - 12gms, 8-2-1, 1.63gaa, 1so, .950sv%

W M.Frattin (24): AHL - 5gms, 5gls, 5pts, -1, 2pim (82gms, 82gls, 82pts, -16, 33pim)
W M.Stone (20): AHL - 10gms, 1gls, 6pts, +6, 4pim (82gms, 8gls, 49pts, +49, 33pim)

C J.Colborne (22): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 6pts, +3, 25pim (82gms, 5gls, 31pts, +15, 128pim)
W J.Silfverberg (22): AHL - 16gms, 3gls, 9pts, +0, 2pim (82gms, 15gls, 46pts, +0, 10pim)

D M.Finn (18): CHL - 21gms, 8gls, 18pts, +3, 16pim (82gms, 31gls, 70pts, +12, 63pim)
D C.Ceci (18): CHL - 27gms, 7gls, 28pts, -9, 10pim (82gms, 21gls, 85pts, -27, 30pim)



W T.Biggs (19): CHL - 28gms, 14gls, 29pts, +10, 42pim (82gms, 41gls, 85pts, +29, 123pim)
W S.Noesen (19): CHL - 21gms, 14gls, 22pts, -5, 18pim (82gms, 55gls, 86pts, -20, 70pim)

D S.Percy (19): CHL - 26gms, 6gls, 16pts, +7, 8pim (82gms, 19gls, 51pts, +22, 25pim)
W M.Puempel (19): CHL - 26gms, 21gls, 28pts, +8, 21pim (82gms, 66gls, 88pts, +25, 66pim)

C G.McKegg (20): AHL - 14gms, 2gls, 4pts, +1, 2pim (82gms, 12gls, 23pts, +6, 12pim)
W S.Prince (20): AHL - 8gms, 2gls, 3pts, +2, 2pim (82gms, 21gls, 31pts, +21, 21pim)

W C.Ashton (21): AHL - 17gms, 4gls, 6pts, +6, 15pim (82gms, 19gls, 29pts, +29, 72pim)
D P.Wiercioch (22): AHL - 15gms, 4gls, 5pts, +9, 14pim (82gms, 22gls, 27pts, +49, 77pim)

W J.D'Amigo (21): AHL - 15gms, 2gls, 6pts, +1, 6pim (82gms, 11gls, 33pts, +6, 33pim)
W J.Pageau (20): AHL - 15gms, 0gls, 5pts, +2, 4pim (82gms, 0gls, 27pts, +11, 22pim)


G M.Owuya (23): AHL - 3gms, 1-2-0, 3.72gaa, 0so, .820sv%
C M.Hoffman (23): AHL - 16gms, 2gls, 6pts, +3, 14pim (82gms, 10gls, 31pts, +15, 72pim)

W N.Deschamps (22): AHL - 16gms, 4gls, 5pts, +2, 14pim (82gms, 21gls, 26pts, +10, 72pim)
W A.Petersson (22): AHL - 16gms, 2gls, 5pts, -5, 16pim (82gms, 10gls, 26pts, -26, 82pim)

D J.Blacker (21): AHL - 12gms, 0gls, 1pts, +3, 13pim (82gms, 0gls, 7pts, +21, 89pim)
D F.Claesson (20): AHL - 14gms, 0gls, 5pts, +2, 24pim (82gms, 0gls, 29pts, +12, 141pim)

D K.Holzer (24): AHL - 15gms, 1gls, 4pts, +6, 14pim (82gms, 6gls, 22pts, +33, 76pim)
D M.Borowiecki (23): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 4pts, +5, 71pim (82gms, 5gls, 21pts, +26, 364pim)

W S.Abbott (24): AHL - 5gms, 1gls, 6pts, +3, 0pim (82gms, 16gls, 98pts, +49, 0pim)
C S.DaCosta (23): AHL - 5gms, 0gls, 1pts, -2, 0pim (82gms, 0gls, 16pts, -33, 0pim)
Looooooooooool, I'ma do the major ones.

Reilly>Zibanejad
Lehner>>>>>Kadri
Stone>>>>Frattin
Silfverberg>>Colbourne
Noesen>Biggs
Puempel>Percy
Ceci=Finn?

I'm stopping there.

I'm not being a troll here, outside of Reilly you have no legitimate top-end prospects. We have 4 in Lehner, Zibanejad, Silfverberg and Stone. Kadri is good but he has second line potential at best, that's not top-end.

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Looooooooooool, I'ma do the major ones.

Reilly>Zibanejad
Lehner>>>>>Kadri
Stone>>>>Frattin
Silfverberg>>Colbourne
Noesen>Biggs
Puempel>Percy
Ceci=Finn?

I'm stopping there.

I'm not being a troll here, outside of Reilly you have no legitimate top-end prospects. We have 4 in Lehner, Zibanejad, Silfverberg and Stone. Kadri is good but he has second line potential at best, that's not top-end.
Yeah sorry but you're a being a homer here. I might give you Lehner and Z (Z doesn't even seem like a high-end skill guy, he's just very well-rounded), but not Silfverberg and Stone. Both have shown great skill in non-NHL leagues, but it's all about how they transition. I don't see how Kadri is at a lower level than Stone or Silfverberg or how they've proven to be better prospects in any way. Top-end implies they're going to be big-time NHL players, like 1st line level. I think using that for Stone and Silfverberg is definitely homerish. Sorry man, but you're not being objective here yourself

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i'm a leafs fan and even il admit that silfverberg is better than colborne.

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Colborne > Silfverberg in my opinion*

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Colborne > Silfverberg in my opinion*

*at being tall

Wow... all I can say... now I know why people say leaf fans are crazy! Must be something in the water lol

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Kadri, not by much. More familar with Kadri than Silfverberg

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Swedes are notorious for breaking out a bit later in North America.

I'm content to wait and see.

If you're saying that Kadri has had a bigger impact on the AHL so far this season, sure, why not.

If you're asking if that's going to sway my opinion in terms of which player I'd rather have in the long-run, the answer is no.

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speaking of which, weren't you guys crowing about how much better all your prospects wre than all the leafs' prospects all offseason?

let's do an early season comparison update, keeping it to the top-15 or so:


D M.Rielly (18, W): CHL - 26gms, 4gls, 22pts, +2, 5pim (82gms, 13gls, 69pts, +6, 16pim)
C M.Zibanejad (19): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 7pts, -3, 4pim (82gms, 5gls, 36pts, -15, 21pim)

C N.Kadri (22): AHL - 17gms, 2gls, 16pts, +3, 22pim (82gms, 10gls, 77pts, +15, 106pim)
G R.Lehner (21): AHL - 12gms, 8-2-1, 1.63gaa, 1so, .950sv%

W M.Frattin (24): AHL - 5gms, 5gls, 5pts, -1, 2pim (82gms, 82gls, 82pts, -16, 33pim)
W M.Stone (20): AHL - 10gms, 1gls, 6pts, +6, 4pim (82gms, 8gls, 49pts, +49, 33pim)

C J.Colborne (22): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 6pts, +3, 25pim (82gms, 5gls, 31pts, +15, 128pim)
W J.Silfverberg (22): AHL - 16gms, 3gls, 9pts, +0, 2pim (82gms, 15gls, 46pts, +0, 10pim)

D M.Finn (18): CHL - 21gms, 8gls, 18pts, +3, 16pim (82gms, 31gls, 70pts, +12, 63pim)
D C.Ceci (18): CHL - 27gms, 7gls, 28pts, -9, 10pim (82gms, 21gls, 85pts, -27, 30pim)



W T.Biggs (19): CHL - 28gms, 14gls, 29pts, +10, 42pim (82gms, 41gls, 85pts, +29, 123pim)
W S.Noesen (19): CHL - 21gms, 14gls, 22pts, -5, 18pim (82gms, 55gls, 86pts, -20, 70pim)

D S.Percy (19): CHL - 26gms, 6gls, 16pts, +7, 8pim (82gms, 19gls, 51pts, +22, 25pim)
W M.Puempel (19): CHL - 26gms, 21gls, 28pts, +8, 21pim (82gms, 66gls, 88pts, +25, 66pim)

C G.McKegg (20): AHL - 14gms, 2gls, 4pts, +1, 2pim (82gms, 12gls, 23pts, +6, 12pim)
W S.Prince (20): AHL - 8gms, 2gls, 3pts, +2, 2pim (82gms, 21gls, 31pts, +21, 21pim)

W C.Ashton (21): AHL - 17gms, 4gls, 6pts, +6, 15pim (82gms, 19gls, 29pts, +29, 72pim)
D P.Wiercioch (22): AHL - 15gms, 4gls, 5pts, +9, 14pim (82gms, 22gls, 27pts, +49, 77pim)

W J.D'Amigo (21): AHL - 15gms, 2gls, 6pts, +1, 6pim (82gms, 11gls, 33pts, +6, 33pim)
W J.Pageau (20): AHL - 15gms, 0gls, 5pts, +2, 4pim (82gms, 0gls, 27pts, +11, 22pim)


G M.Owuya (23): AHL - 3gms, 1-2-0, 3.72gaa, 0so, .820sv%
C M.Hoffman (23): AHL - 16gms, 2gls, 6pts, +3, 14pim (82gms, 10gls, 31pts, +15, 72pim)

W N.Deschamps (22): AHL - 16gms, 4gls, 5pts, +2, 14pim (82gms, 21gls, 26pts, +10, 72pim)
W A.Petersson (22): AHL - 16gms, 2gls, 5pts, -5, 16pim (82gms, 10gls, 26pts, -26, 82pim)

D J.Blacker (21): AHL - 12gms, 0gls, 1pts, +3, 13pim (82gms, 0gls, 7pts, +21, 89pim)
D F.Claesson (20): AHL - 14gms, 0gls, 5pts, +2, 24pim (82gms, 0gls, 29pts, +12, 141pim)

D K.Holzer (24): AHL - 15gms, 1gls, 4pts, +6, 14pim (82gms, 6gls, 22pts, +33, 76pim)
D M.Borowiecki (23): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 4pts, +5, 71pim (82gms, 5gls, 21pts, +26, 364pim)

W S.Abbott (24): AHL - 5gms, 1gls, 6pts, +3, 0pim (82gms, 16gls, 98pts, +49, 0pim)
C S.DaCosta (23): AHL - 5gms, 0gls, 1pts, -2, 0pim (82gms, 0gls, 16pts, -33, 0pim)
Both looking like busts to me

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Both looking like busts to me
weird that leafs' busts are playing as well as similar aged top sens prospects, eh?

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weird that leafs' busts are playing as well as similar aged top sens prospects, eh?
Nope, not weird at all. Just another leafs first rounder doing what they do best. Nothing.

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Just to make zeke stats more accurate i switch all the D,F,G to match them up vs the same position, age and league

D M.Rielly (18, W): CHL - 26gms, 4gls, 22pts, +2, 5pim (82gms, 13gls, 69pts, +6, 16pim)
D C.Ceci (18): CHL - 27gms, 7gls, 28pts, -9, 10pim (82gms, 21gls, 85pts, -27, 30pim)

C N.Kadri (22): AHL - 17gms, 2gls, 16pts, +3, 22pim (82gms, 10gls, 77pts, +15, 106pim)
W M.Stone (20): AHL - 10gms, 1gls, 6pts, +6, 4pim (82gms, 8gls, 49pts, +49, 33pim)

C J.Colborne (22): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 6pts, +3, 25pim (82gms, 5gls, 31pts, +15, 128pim)
W J.Silfverberg (22): AHL - 16gms, 3gls, 9pts, +0, 2pim (82gms, 15gls, 46pts, +0, 10pim)

G R.Lehner (21): AHL - 12gms, 8-2-1, 1.63gaa, 1so, .950sv%
G M.Owuya (23): AHL - 3gms, 1-2-0, 3.72gaa, 0so, .820sv%

D J.Blacker (21): AHL - 12gms, 0gls, 1pts, +3, 13pim (82gms, 0gls, 7pts, +21, 89pim)
D F.Claesson (20): AHL - 14gms, 0gls, 5pts, +2, 24pim (82gms, 0gls, 29pts, +12, 141pim)

D K.Holzer (24): AHL - 15gms, 1gls, 4pts, +6, 14pim (82gms, 6gls, 22pts, +33, 76pim)
D M.Borowiecki (23): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 4pts, +5, 71pim (82gms, 5gls, 21pts, +26, 364pim)

W S.Abbott (24): AHL - 5gms, 1gls, 6pts, +3, 0pim (82gms, 16gls, 98pts, +49, 0pim)
C S.DaCosta (23): AHL - 5gms, 0gls, 1pts, -2, 0pim (82gms, 0gls, 16pts, -33, 0pim)

W N.Deschamps (22): AHL - 16gms, 4gls, 5pts, +2, 14pim (82gms, 21gls, 26pts, +10, 72pim)
W A.Petersson (22): AHL - 16gms, 2gls, 5pts, -5, 16pim (82gms, 10gls, 26pts, -26, 82pim)

W M.Frattin (24): AHL - 5gms, 5gls, 5pts, -1, 2pim (82gms, 82gls, 82pts, -16, 33pim)
C M.Hoffman (23): AHL - 16gms, 2gls, 6pts, +3, 14pim (82gms, 10gls, 31pts, +15, 72pim)

W J.D'Amigo (21): AHL - 15gms, 2gls, 6pts, +1, 6pim (82gms, 11gls, 33pts, +6, 33pim)
W J.Pageau (20): AHL - 15gms, 0gls, 5pts, +2, 4pim (82gms, 0gls, 27pts, +11, 22pim)

C G.McKegg (20): AHL - 14gms, 2gls, 4pts, +1, 2pim (82gms, 12gls, 23pts, +6, 12pim)
W S.Prince (20): AHL - 8gms, 2gls, 3pts, +2, 2pim (82gms, 21gls, 31pts, +21, 21pim)

W T.Biggs (19): CHL - 28gms, 14gls, 29pts, +10, 42pim (82gms, 41gls, 85pts, +29, 123pim)
W M.Puempel (19): CHL - 26gms, 21gls, 28pts, +8, 21pim (82gms, 66gls, 88pts, +25, 66pim)

Other CHL player

D M.Finn (18): CHL - 21gms, 8gls, 18pts, +3, 16pim (82gms, 31gls, 70pts, +12, 63pim)
D S.Percy (19): CHL - 26gms, 6gls, 16pts, +7, 8pim (82gms, 19gls, 51pts, +22, 25pim)
W S.Noesen (19): CHL - 21gms, 14gls, 22pts, -5, 18pim (82gms, 55gls, 86pts, -20, 70pim)

Other AHL player

W C.Ashton (21): AHL - 17gms, 4gls, 6pts, +6, 15pim (82gms, 19gls, 29pts, +29, 72pim)
D P.Wiercioch (22): AHL - 15gms, 4gls, 5pts, +9, 14pim (82gms, 22gls, 27pts, +49, 77pim)
C M.Zibanejad (19): AHL - 16gms, 1gls, 7pts, -3, 4pim (82gms, 5gls, 36pts, -15, 21pim)

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Nope, not weird at all. Just another leafs first rounder doing what they do best. Nothing.
Last 10yrs of 1st rounders:

Rask ------- Karlsson
Steen ------ Foligno
Colaiacovo - Meszaros
Schenn ---- Cowen
Kadri ------ Zibanejad
Tlusty ----- Eaves
Biggs ------ Noesen
Percy ----- Puempel
XXXX ----- O'Brien
XXXX ----- Lee
XXXX ----- Klepis

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