I thought about Montana, but without going into too much thought I wondered why isn't there WHL there if it was a good market.
I do think Seattle could be worth a try, although it's probably a short term location until the NHL comes there. Unless it doesn't end up there.
Well probably because there is other bigger markets out there that have a WHL team. Would Montana be suitable for a WHL team though if say you were able to move an AHL franchise to Portland or Seattle?
Lol at one of these threads again, open season on Oklahoma City!
With all due respect, I don't care if you guys are hockey starved, you have the Oil Kings. I pay one of the highest rates in the league for my season tickets, so I wouldn't take lightly to seeing them jip the fans here, regardless of how many show up on a given night.
HF Oil is getting hard to read when these threads pop up on a weekly basis. I find it almost humorous now though, so please keep on keepin' on.
Lol at one of these threads again, open season on Oklahoma City!
With all due respect, I don't care if you guys are hockey starved, you have the Oil Kings. I pay one of the highest rates in the league for my season tickets, so I wouldn't take lightly to seeing them jip the fans here, regardless of how many show up on a given night.
HF Oil is getting hard to read when these threads pop up on a weekly basis. I find it almost humorous now though, so please keep on keepin' on.
If I were you I'd stop laughing and start selling the game to as many people as you can.
Not a good sign for a club when they can't sell tickets when having some of the best talent to play in the AHL since god knows how long.
Lol at one of these threads again, open season on Oklahoma City!
With all due respect, I don't care if you guys are hockey starved, you have the Oil Kings. I pay one of the highest rates in the league for my season tickets, so I wouldn't take lightly to seeing them jip the fans here, regardless of how many show up on a given night.
HF Oil is getting hard to read when these threads pop up on a weekly basis. I find it almost humorous now though, so please keep on keepin' on.
This conversation ISN'T taking place in one of the Barons GDT's and myself and others afaik have taken that nature of discussion out of such threads to accomodate people like yourself that are actuall fans. Thank you btw(I've said this before) for supporting the club. But you coming into THIS thread specifically to complain about this topic thread is YOU not respecting the want of mutual members of this EDMONTON OILERS forum to discuss topics related to the org as we see fit.
We respected your wishes, maybe do the same. You CHOSE to click on this thread knowing 100% what it was going to be about.
If I were you I'd stop laughing and start selling the game to as many people as you can.
Not a good sign for a club when they can't sell tickets when having some of the best talent to play in the AHL since god knows how long.
Why? I tell everyone I can, but even if the Barons are no more, that won't keep me from smiling and enjoying life. If its not going to work, then so be it. I'd be disappointed but not every market will support every level of hockey, which is why many people here don't care how many players we have received from the Oilers.
This is a minor league hockey team in a basketball & football market, not the apocalypse. I love this team more than most in OKC, but I wouldn't go on suicide watch if the Edmonton Oilers pulled the plug. There is much more important things in life, my friend.
This conversation ISN'T taking place in one of the Barons GDT's and myself and others afaik have taken that nature of discussion out of such threads to accomodate people like yourself that are actuall fans. Thank you btw(I've said this before) for supporting the club. But you coming into THIS thread specifically to complain about this topic thread is YOU not respecting the want of mutual members of this EDMONTON OILERS forum to discuss topics related to the org as we see fit.
We respected your wishes, maybe do the same. You CHOSE to click on this thread knowing 100% what it was going to be about.
I was expecting to read about why the Oilers dont try and bring a couple games to Rexall. Not your doom and gloom. I am going to defend this city and organization - don't confuse that with lack of respect.
Baronsfan, just curious here, but do you hear Barons promotional stuff on the radio stations? How do they promote the game to the city down there?
I personally don't. I've heard one this season, and that was opening night. If they do promote, then I just don't see or hear it. They think that you can do all your promoting on social media. While that is slightly useful, that doesn't reach many people.
Lol at one of these threads again, open season on Oklahoma City!
With all due respect, I don't care if you guys are hockey starved, you have the Oil Kings. I pay one of the highest rates in the league for my season tickets, so I wouldn't take lightly to seeing them jip the fans here, regardless of how many show up on a given night.
HF Oil is getting hard to read when these threads pop up on a weekly basis. I find it almost humorous now though, so please keep on keepin' on.
With all due respect I dont care that you are a Baron fan because there are only a few thousand of you and this is the best team you will ever witness in the AHL as far as oiler affiliates go. If it isnt selling now it never will.
If HFOil is bugging you so much goto the Barons forum...assuming there are enough fans to fill a message board.
Its like replacement said, the game day threads used to discuss attendance but because fans were complaining other posters stopped. Are we just not supposed to talk about how pathetic OKC is at supporting hockey?
I was expecting to read about why the Oilers dont try and bring a couple games to Rexall. Not your doom and gloom. I am going to defend this city and organization - don't confuse that with lack of respect.
I'm not sure how its my "doom and gloom". tbh I don't think thats a fair view at all. If anything my view seems pretty realistic given the circumstance in that you have the most talented team in the AHL, or thats ever been in the AHL for years, and a club where other teams fans get pretty damned excited about coming to see the team. It shouldn't escape you that theres a whole lot more buzz about the Barons coming from any opponents rinks which is a very unusual situation. It seems to get noticed at all the Barons have to go on a roadtrip. You can ponder that.
Clearly this team and franchise is not going to work in OKC. Not unless somebody is prepared to underwrite is as a tax deduction..
NOBODY was taking a knock at Oklahoma City. Not sure where you got that. People are saying Oklahoma City isn't supporting this club close to what should be expected and that its a time to consider some better options such as possible games here.
If Edmonton didn't support a lacrosse team very well and they moved out of town few if any people would take it as a personal slight.
With all due respect I dont care that you are a Baron fan because there are only a few thousand of you and this is the best team you will ever witness in the AHL as far as oiler affiliates go. If it isnt selling now it never will.
If HFOil is bugging you so much goto the Barons forum...assuming there are enough fans to fill a message board
The problem was is that just weeks ago this discussion was in the Barons thread. Lol but thanks, I will respect your wishes. Hope you, your family, and all Edmonton faithful has happy holidays!
Something people on this board need to understand is Barons fan =/= Oilers fan.
Replacement:
You don't see how these choice quotes wouldn't come across as offensive to somebody who's passionate about their city and their team?
These comments were meant to make no reference to the city at all. They are SPECIFIC references to what they are as a HOCKEY AFFILIATE. Which clearly is worst affiliate in the AHL.
Not sure how anybody would take from that that I'm a Frommers representative or Mordecai Richler talkin bout a city. I think it was pretty clear what I was referring to in a thread specific to the hockey club, in a board specifically about a hockey org.
Maybe in the future when I talk about Omark I should make sure nobody thinks I'm debasing Switzerland...Or Sweden or half or Europe...
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These comments were meant to make no reference to the city at all. They are SPECIFIC references to what they are as a HOCKEY AFFILIATE. Which clearly is worst affiliate in the AHL.
Not sure how anybody would take from that that I'm a Frommers representative or Mordecai Richler talkin bout a city. I think it was pretty clear what I was referring to in a thread specific to the hockey club, in a board specifically about a hockey org.
Maybe in the future when I talk about Omark I should make sure nobody thinks I'm debasing Switzerland...Or Sweden.
How are they clearly the worst HOCKEY AFFILIATE when they're doing well developing our players, provide a winning atmosphere, and by all accounts every player likes playing there?
Seems your comments seem to be aimed at the fan support and promotion of the team. I'd most certainly see why Baronsfan took offense to your comments.
Not putting words in your mouth, I just think that any OKC living Barons fan reading that would react similarly.
Fair enough if you think so. I think its generalizing. For all I know OKC is an excellent place to live, visit, and I never said otherwise.
What I do know is they suck at supporting this affiliate. Real bad. Virtually any other AHL stop on the map would be seeing +6k/night for this club. It would be interesting if AHL kept stats on attendance for teams at home and road.
Anyway no reason to argue this and thanks for the feedback. After the grey cup yesterday maybe I'm in an owly mood.
How are they clearly the worst HOCKEY AFFILIATE when they're doing well developing our players, provide a winning atmosphere, and by all accounts every player likes playing there?
Seems your comments seem to be aimed at the fan support and promotion of the team. I'd most certainly see why Baronsfan took offense to your comments.
An exciting pro atmosphere entails that a game day atmosphere actually exists in the rink. Its gotta be underwhelming for the Barons players skating out in front of 3k fans on a Saturday night in their *home rink* and seeing that. I even acknowledged the many efforts the org tries to make to promote the game in OKC. Did that escape your attention? But the fans aren't coming out. Period. Its not the Oklahoma city, or org, that I take any umbrage with. It is the abject lack of fan support for the club.
Conversely they skate out in Charlotte or Abbotsford or other stops and get more appreciated than they do in OKC. You don't see anything wrong with that picture?
When do players actually state they DON'T like playing somewhere?
To be clear, and because I'm not writing an essay here, when I made comments in this thread clearly I'm talking about attendance, support, etc, and it making more sense to have some games in Edmonton because thats what the thread is about.
In the future I'll be sure to get proofreaders to proof my writing so that nobody takes anything sideways and thinks that I'm talking about something rotten in Denmark .
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Why? The Abbotsford Heat have played some games in Calgary. Several AHL affiliates play close to the parent team and thereby get some org fans attending.
It makes the most sense right now. I realize the Barons have separate ownership but just play some games here and kickback some of the revenue to the Barons. At the very least the playoff games that are not currently scheduled should be taking place here. Or several of them.
The Barons have the 2nd worst attendance in the league. They give away a free 48K Dodge Challenger every Saturday and get 3000K fans. Its worth it to buy a 15buck raffle ticket just to get a chance at the hotrod. Its better odds than anything we see here. Plus they get to see basically an NHL team every night for 15bucks. 2beer promotions, tailgate parties, bands performing.
OKC is the suck. Worst affiliate, move it out of there. In contrast who wasn't impressed with the Charlotte fan support and knowledgeable crowd and interest in the game. Charlotte appreciates our team more than our own affiliate does. Something very wrong in Oklahoma City which ain't changing.
Blow it up. Do it soon.
Replacement and I don't see eye to eye very often, but I couldn't have said it better myself. Kudos on this post.
Why? The Abbotsford Heat have played some games in Calgary. Several AHL affiliates play close to the parent team and thereby get some org fans attending.
It makes the most sense right now. I realize the Barons have separate ownership but just play some games here and kickback some of the revenue to the Barons. At the very least the playoff games that are not currently scheduled should be taking place here. Or several of them.
The Barons have the 2nd worst attendance in the league. They give away a free 48K Dodge Challenger every Saturday and get 3000K fans. Its worth it to buy a 15buck raffle ticket just to get a chance at the hotrod. Its better odds than anything we see here. Plus they get to see basically an NHL team every night for 15bucks. 2beer promotions, tailgate parties, bands performing.
OKC is the suck. Worst affiliate, move it out of there. In contrast who wasn't impressed with the Charlotte fan support and knowledgeable crowd and interest in the game. Charlotte appreciates our team more than our own affiliate does. Something very wrong in Oklahoma City which ain't changing.
Blow it up. Do it soon.
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Give it time? Virtually every AHL market the Barons go into its a buzz coming to town and the teams and fans realizing its basically an NHL club coming to visit. With the Buzz this weekend being fantastic on the roadtrip.
Clearly Oklahoma City don't get it, don't appreciate this team and opportunity and never will.
By all accounts the Blazers attendance was heavily leveraged on ticket giveaways. You can't run any business that way.
When I mentioned all playoff games should be played in Edmonton clearly I'm suggesting that the Oilers pull the plug on this pathetic affiliate and never go back.
Wow, its been just over a year and since its not flourishing it will never work? How does their poor attendance make them the worst affiliate? How is it even relevant? I thought an affiliate was supposed to help develop your young players, not make money.
Why do we really care if they don't get lots of fans? Why would you expect RNH Eberle and Hall playing for the barons suddenly make OKC a Hockey town? Things like this take time, its not an overnight fix. As long as the current owners want to try to make it work why not let them. Its not hurting us or the Oilers.
I'd be all for an OKC game played in Edmonton, but I don't feel ripped off if we don't get one. Its not like they owe us one.
You've been an Oilers fan too long if you think that the AHL OKC Barons is basically a NHL team. It might be an Edmonton Oilers NHL team, but the Edmonton Oilers haven't had a NHL team for a while.
haha I was browsing the earlier part of this thread and can't believe some people are suggesting Montana as a location for out affiliate. The entire state - and it's a very big state compared to most of the others - has a population about that of the city of Edmonton. The only hockey teams in the state play in a league roughly equivalent to junior B hockey in Canada. That's like a rung below the AJHL. The largest city only has 100,000 people.
Oklahoma City probably isn't gonna be the long-term location of the affiliate, but Montana doesn't seem like a great alternative.
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