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12-09-2012, 02:02 PM
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277 yards of total offense, and only 3 points to show for it. Very frustrating.

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That is freddie's 4th redzone fumble if I'm not mistaken.

Why do they keep feeding him the rock when he keeps coughing it up?
Because Fred is the "better and more sure handed back"

Because CJ fumbled at the one ONCE with a severely injured shoulder against the Pats he isn't allowed to carry the ball inside the red zone even though Fred Jackson has fumbled 4-5 times this year.

When will people realize Fred is garbage?He's WASHED UP.I hope we cut him next year and draft a bruiser in the mid rounds.We don't need a 32 year old RB next year.

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12-09-2012, 02:07 PM
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Ha.... we'll be down 7-3 at the end of the 1st half... pathetic. We have controlled the game, but can't convert in critical situations.

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12-09-2012, 02:10 PM
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Because Fred is the "better and more sure handed back"

Because CJ fumbled at the one ONCE with a severely injured shoulder against the Pats he isn't allowed to carry the ball inside the red zone even though Fred Jackson has fumbled 4-5 times this year.

When will people realize Fred is garbage?He's WASHED UP.I hope we cut him next year and draft a bruiser in the mid rounds.We don't need a 32 year old RB next year.
Garbage is exaggerating, but yeah, the fumbling...Spiller should be seeing the ball down there.

But Jackson is by far better at blitz pickup, without question. IMO Jackson should be a 3rd down back, who can help in pass protection on obvious passing downs.

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12-09-2012, 02:12 PM
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Gilmore!!

Great play on Gilmore after it caromed off Scott, Horrible penalty too...no way that lineman was going to do anything.

Gotta convert into points now.

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Nice INT! I dunno about that penalty, it looked like the guy tripped over his feet.

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Chandler has been great this game so far.

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Why is Fred in there with a minute left?He can't break ANY tackles.Spiller can turn those dump offs into 20 yard gains.Fred turns them into 1 yard losses.I can't stand this team.

NICE CARRY FRED, BEAUTIFUL CALL GAILEY 25 seconds left and you run a 31 year old slow RB We have a top 5 RB and we use Fred.HE IS TERRIBLE, I don't care what anyone says, his blocking is slightly above average, everywhere Else Spiller is far better.Running,catching,breaking tackles, CJ is just so much better it's pathetic Fred gets so many touches.

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12-09-2012, 02:15 PM
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Where's Spiller?

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wow..... is Chan kidding with that play call?

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Why is Fred in there with a minute left?He can't break ANY tackles.Spiller can turn those dump offs into 20 yard gains.Fred turns them into 1 yard losses.I can't stand this team.
Did you not see the first play of this very drive where he broke 2 tackles on the checkdown?

I'm all for a good agenda...but come on.

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12-09-2012, 02:18 PM
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I don't mind the draw playcall there because you had two timeouts, and if you catch the Rams napping you can pick up 10 yards...but the next play that's got to go deeper.

Bills squandering opportunities.

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12-09-2012, 02:18 PM
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Did you not see the first play of this very drive where he broke 2 tackles on the checkdown?

I'm all for a good agenda...but come on.
One time.Spiller does that 4-5 times a game and for much farther.

Fred Jackson = 5 carries , 0 YARDS, 4 catches, 9 Yards and a fumble.

yeah my agenda Fred Jackson 9 touches, 9 yards and a fumble.That's pathetic.CJ Spiller stands on the side line even though he is a top 5 NFL RB.

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Hopefully just a small thing, but how do you not take the clock down to 2 seconds on the Time out before the field goal attempt there?

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12-09-2012, 02:23 PM
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One time.Spiller does that 4-5 times a game and for much farther.

Fred Jackson = 5 carries , 0 YARDS, 4 catches, 9 Yards and a fumble.

yeah my agenda Fred Jackson 9 touches, 9 yards and a fumble.That's pathetic.CJ Spiller stands on the side line even though he is a top 5 NFL RB.
I think Spiller should be more involved than Jackson (and on that I agree)...but Fred Jackson isn't the anti-christ. He DOES have value specifically in pass protection. And he is still a capable runner, although this game isn't showing it...but it seems like you're just waiting for any little thing Jackson does wrong to call him out on it, ignoring the things he does bring to the table.

The Bills are a better team with both Spiller/Jackson than Spiller alone. Gailey just doesn't get how to use them.

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12-09-2012, 02:30 PM
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I think Spiller should be more involved than Jackson (and on that I agree)...but Fred Jackson isn't the anti-christ. He DOES have value specifically in pass protection. And he is still a capable runner, although this game isn't showing it...but it seems like you're just waiting for any little thing Jackson does wrong to call him out on it, ignoring the things he does bring to the table.

The Bills are a better team with both Spiller/Jackson than Spiller alone. Gailey just doesn't get how to use them.
The Fred of 08-11 was good.The Fred now after his injuries isn't good.There is no agenda,Spiller is better but because Freds on our team and Chan is the coach we force the ball to the worse back.Fred now has a sub 4.0 YPC while Spiller leads the league.Spiller gets more then 2 more yards a carry then Fred yet Fred is getting more carries and touches, it's maddening.

The Bills would be better making CJ the feature back, giving Fred maybe 20-25% of the snaps.Instead Fred gets more then half.It's a joke.

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12-09-2012, 02:51 PM
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CJ just gained 4 more yards on one carry then Fred got on 9 touches.

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Is Lee Smith ok?

Also, PAT fail.

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12-09-2012, 02:59 PM
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Is Lee Smith ok?

Also, PAT fail.
That celebration should make Not Top 10 this week

And Powell...

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12-09-2012, 03:04 PM
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What happened to our pass rush?

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The Fred of 08-11 was good.The Fred now after his injuries isn't good.There is no agenda,Spiller is better but because Freds on our team and Chan is the coach we force the ball to the worse back.Fred now has a sub 4.0 YPC while Spiller leads the league.Spiller gets more then 2 more yards a carry then Fred yet Fred is getting more carries and touches, it's maddening.

The Bills would be better making CJ the feature back, giving Fred maybe 20-25% of the snaps.Instead Fred gets more then half.It's a joke.
I hate people that dwell on something so inconsequential as to how much more successful our run game could be, when it's already a strength! How much more potent would the Bills' offense be if they had a head coach with a killer-instinct, or a QB with a full toolbox to work with?

Focus.

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12-09-2012, 03:38 PM
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Fred hurt.He might be done, 3rd injury in less then a calender year.

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Now this is buffalo football. You just get that feeling that a STL TD is just inevitable.

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Chan Gailey should be paying attention to the playcalling on this drive. The Rams have not given up on the run.

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I don't understand the defensive play calling here. We've gotten away from what was so effective for us in the 1st half.

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