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12-16-2012, 05:51 PM
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Yeah, I'm sorry, most teams that are losing by multiple touchdowns and have moved the ball effectively through the air will just keep running because it is their strength (psst, one of their two touchdowns was a pass)?
Here comes the passes, Mergus.

Spiller is now averaging more YPC than Fitzpatrick averages passing attempt, today.

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So, is there a football game on right now? I've been busy doing chores around the house...

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12-16-2012, 05:57 PM
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Ha, and they complain about the replacement refs.

In what world is that a TD? His foot came down 3 feet out of bounds!
Refs whenever they aren't sure or if they think it might be close are calling it a turnover or TD because those are automatically reviewed. It's basically them covering their ass, and has nothing to do with whether they actually thought it was a TD. Catch near the boundaries = just call it a TD and let replay sort it out.

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Cordy Glenn has been especially awful today.

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Martin has been blowing plays all year.

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12-16-2012, 06:09 PM
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Chan takes out Fitz and not Spiller? Does he just not like CJ or something?

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Chan takes out Fitz and not Spiller? Does he just not like CJ or something?
Choice got hurt on the first play on that posession. I think we were down to two backs, and Dickerson's more of a fullback.

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12-16-2012, 06:54 PM
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Shocking news of the day: Lynch is a better running back than Jackson or Spiller but didn't get a fair chance in Buffalo because of awful coaching. The whole coaching staff needs to be gone this offseason. Gailey is out of touch. If Andy Reid is available the bills should open the check book.

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Did Charlie Chan finally earn that pink slip?

The frustrating thing is the last 2 weks the steelers have lost, they will probably beat Cincy next Sunday.

I guess now you have to hope the bills lose the final 2 but knowing them they will win.

I just have no idea what happened to the D. Second time all 2nd half they have given up 20 or more.(21 to Houston) I did not see them stinking up the joint that badly.

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Yeah Fitz is good !
Yeah Flacco is good!

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12-16-2012, 07:24 PM
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T.J Graham needs to go to the bench and play catch
He dropped 2 big catches today, not sorry that much anymore that he isnt utilized much. Until he learns to catch today.

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12-16-2012, 07:28 PM
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It doesn't matter if Flacco is better/worse than what we have...he might not be the guy to get this team to the SB. Would rather take a chance on an unknown with more potential, even if also possible to be worse than Flacco.
This team couldn't even win it all with bBady. Not as long as Charlie Chan is coaching.

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12-16-2012, 07:32 PM
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The Bills need to make changes, but if you guys think a head coach-QB combo of Reid-Flacco is going to lead you to the promised land, well...you're in for some real disappointment.

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12-16-2012, 08:13 PM
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Yeah Flacco is good!
He is. I'm not the one who said Fitzpatrick is better then Joe Flacco you did. And your wrong.

The fact you think Fitzpatrick is better then any other starting QB is funny. Aside from the bums in Arizona, Fitz is the worst in the league. Yes, worse then Mark Sanchez.


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The Bills need to make changes, but if you guys think a head coach-QB combo of Reid-Flacco is going to lead you to the promised land, well...you're in for some real disappointment.
Flacco-Reid is more then good enough to win 10 games and make the playoffs.That's all I'd ever hope for is just a single playoff game. And I do not want to risk drafting a QB, I want a proven starter.


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He is. I'm not the one who said Fitzpatrick is better then Joe Flacco you did. And your wrong.

The fact you think Fitzpatrick is better then any other starting QB is funny. Aside from the bums in Arizona, Fitz is the worst in the league. Yes, worse then Mark Sanchez.




Flacco-Reid is more then good enough to win 10 games and make the playoffs.That's all I'd ever hope for is just a single playoff game. And I do not want to risk drafting a QB, I want a proven starter.
A little under-rating of Fitz and over rating of Flacco. Please don't think Flacco is some elite QB. He has a team thats reputation on defense alone makes him more of a conservative QB.... plus Rice is one of the best backs in the league (and has a coach that uses him).

If Gailey used Spiller to set up the Play-Action Fitz's numbers would be better..... but he doesn't.

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He is. I'm not the one who said Fitzpatrick is better then Joe Flacco you did. And your wrong.

The fact you think Fitzpatrick is better then any other starting QB is funny. Aside from the bums in Arizona, Fitz is the worst in the league. Yes, worse then Mark Sanchez.




Flacco-Reid is more then good enough to win 10 games and make the playoffs.That's all I'd ever hope for is just a single playoff game. And I do not want to risk drafting a QB, I want a proven starter.
I think Reid's time has come and gone in this league. He's 12-18 in the last two seasons--and needed a meaningless four-game win streak to close last season else it'd be worse--with better talent than Buffalo has. He is THE worst clock manager in the NFL. And it is the height of irony that 60% of the gameday posts here consist of bemoaning Spiller's lack of touches, and yet Andy Reid, someone who's lambasted by the Philly media for not utilizing Shady McCoy properly, is being mentioned around these parts as a desirable candidate.

The Bills can resurrect Vince Lombardi, and get Joe Montana in his prime, and it still won't mean a damned thing until you guys figure out how to stop the run: 26th or worse in 8 of the last 9 seasons.

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12-16-2012, 09:35 PM
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I think Reid's time has come and gone in this league. He's 12-18 in the last two seasons--and needed a meaningless four-game win streak to close last season else it'd be worse--with better talent than Buffalo has. He is THE worst clock manager in the NFL. And it is the height of irony that 60% of the gameday posts here consist of bemoaning Spiller's lack of touches, and yet Andy Reid, someone who's lambasted by the Philly media for not utilizing Shady McCoy properly, is being mentioned around these parts as a desirable candidate.

The Bills can resurrect Vince Lombardi, and get Joe Montana in his prime, and it still won't mean a damned thing until you guys figure out how to stop the run: 26th or worse in 8 of the last 9 seasons.
Agreed. Also I think Reid should take a year off from football before trying to get back in the game.

I've been intrigued by Hue Jackson for a while. That's a guy who commits to running (see: McFadden, Darren and Bush, Michael), and is definitely an emotional guy. He got a team with Jason Campbell and later a rusty Carson Palmer to 8-8, then got sacked because the new GM wanted his own guy. I think he would be a welcome change of pace from the coaches we've had.

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12-16-2012, 10:30 PM
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Shocking news of the day: Lynch is a better running back than Jackson or Spiller but didn't get a fair chance in Buffalo because of awful coaching. The whole coaching staff needs to be gone this offseason. Gailey is out of touch. If Andy Reid is available the bills should open the check book.
Spiller is a better running back than Lynch. If Spiller had as many carries as Lynch he'd have about 200 more yards. Not to mention Spiller is a much bigger threat in the passing game. Lynch was the master of dropping simple screen passes.

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Shocking news of the day: Lynch is a better running back than Jackson or Spiller but didn't get a fair chance in Buffalo because of awful coaching. The whole coaching staff needs to be gone this offseason. Gailey is out of touch. If Andy Reid is available the bills should open the check book.
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Spiller is a better running back than Lynch. If Spiller had as many carries as Lynch he'd have about 200 more yards. Not to mention Spiller is a much bigger threat in the passing game. Lynch was the master of dropping simple screen passes.
I wouldn't say Lynch left town due to the coaching but his douchebaggery attitude and immaturity. He took the Travis Henry mentorship to an entirely new level.

Personally, I think Spiller is a more dynamic running back but I'd rather Lynch. Until Spiller shows he can consistently break tackles or pass block he's pretty much a one trick pony. At least this season he's not continually trying to bounce the play outside but still has a tendency to go down faster than a two-bit hoe during fleet week.

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I'm really not going to be too hard on the Bills after this one. The Seahawks are really good right now, and I can see them making it to at least the NFC game, if not the Super Bowl

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I'm really not going to be too hard on the Bills after this one. The Seahawks are really good right now, and I can see them making it to at least the NFC game, if not the Super Bowl
Eh, Wannstedt once again had the defense showing up totally unprepared. They looked like they didn't even know who the starting Seahawks QB was, trying to play man coverage across the board then not even running a spy on him.

He's gotta be gone at the end of the day. It's obvious he doesn't do his homework.


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I'm really not going to be too hard on the Bills after this one. The Seahawks are really good right now, and I can see them making it to at least the NFC game, if not the Super Bowl
You still shouldn't lose by 33 and give up 50....most of which came in the first 3 quarters.

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Shocking news of the day: Lynch is a better running back than Jackson or Spiller but didn't get a fair chance in Buffalo because of awful coaching. The whole coaching staff needs to be gone this offseason. Gailey is out of touch. If Andy Reid is available the bills should open the check book.
Just no. Lynch wasn't bad here, but it's pretty clear his heart was in the West Coast. Remember that 4th down play where he didn't fight for the first and after the game said he thought it was 3rd down?

That's going to get you run out of town anywhere, even putting the trangressions against the law aside.

And yeah, Lynch isn't clearly better than either Jackson or Spiller. They all have their strengths, but I'd take a properly utilized Jackson/Spiller combo over Lynch any day of the week.

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12-17-2012, 08:22 AM
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Just no. Lynch wasn't bad here, but it's pretty clear his heart was in the West Coast. Remember that 4th down play where he didn't fight for the first and after the game said he thought it was 3rd down?

That's going to get you run out of town anywhere, even putting the trangressions against the law aside.

And yeah, Lynch isn't clearly better than either Jackson or Spiller. They all have their strengths, but I'd take a properly utilized Jackson/Spiller combo over Lynch any day of the week.
I thought that was McGahee who didn't try for the first down. Do I have my backs mixed up?

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