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12-12-2012, 05:33 PM
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I agree, but I doubt The Rock will wrestle before RR.

you never know though
You know, even though he's wrestling for the title at RR, I'd still love to see him enter the rumble.

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12-12-2012, 05:40 PM
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You know, even though he's wrestling for the title at RR, I'd still love to see him enter the rumble.
That would be crazy, lol. Loses to Punk, then enters the Rumble and wins it

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12-12-2012, 05:47 PM
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That would be crazy, lol. Loses to Punk, then enters the Rumble and wins it
Imagine the crowd.

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That would be crazy, lol. Loses to Punk, then enters the Rumble and wins it
That would be interesting. I can almost see it happening.

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12-12-2012, 06:06 PM
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Hey guys, I saw a link to CM Punk's "online journal 2002-2005" on another forum.
Here it is if anyone wants to take a look...

http://cmpunk.livejournal.com/

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According to Pwinsider.com, The Rock will be appearing regularly with WWE starting the week before the Royal Rumble. Word is that the Rock will, "probably average every other Raw leading into WrestleMania, if not more."

WWE should seriously considering putting him in the ring with younger guys just to give them a rub and get them exposure. Guys like Sandow, The Miz, Ziggler, Barrett, etc. would benefit greatly from just being in the ring with The Rock.
I would seriously love some mic work between Rocky and Sandow!

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12-12-2012, 11:38 PM
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I would seriously love some mic work between Rocky and Sandow!
**Rock is in ring about to start a promo, when Sandow's music hits**

DS: "Allow me to beg your indulgence for a moment."
"As the intellectual savior to YOU!, the unwashed masses, I'd like to enlighten you before this ignoramus in the ring begins rambling about shoving things up people's anuses."

**Rock interrupts**

"Who..In the blue hell..are you?"

DS: "I am D.."
Rock: "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!!!"

And we go from there.

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12-12-2012, 11:41 PM
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I would die if Damien followed that up with a "That was very rude!" or "You just asked me who I was!"

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12-12-2012, 11:47 PM
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I would die if Damien followed that up with a "That was very rude!" or "You just asked me who I was!"
PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN!

"It doesn't matter who you are!"



"You just asked me who I was, and as I was giving my response, you say 'it doesn't matter'? Thank you for proving my point, you ignoramus!"

and then they can just go back and forth with Damien Sandow tearing down The Rock's material and The Rock continuing to just tear into Sandow for a good 5-10 minutes. That'd be quality.

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12-13-2012, 12:45 AM
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What's the possibility that The Shield are working for Brock Lesnar? Perhaps Ambrose's comment about "bringing the sword" is an easter egg. So when Brock comes back, The Shield aligns themselves with him, and Heyman backstabs Punk, leading to a Punk face turn.

Lesnar and The Shield to feud with Punk, Cena, Ryback, [insert top face here] after Wrestlemania.


Someone might have already mentioned it. Too lazy to go check all the posts.

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12-13-2012, 12:47 AM
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That stable would easily be the best since Evolution.

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12-13-2012, 01:11 AM
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Sandow+Rock promo =



finally gets the picture up after a half hour of ****ups.

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12-13-2012, 06:13 AM
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What's the possibility that The Shield are working for Brock Lesnar? Perhaps Ambrose's comment about "bringing the sword" is an easter egg. So when Brock comes back, The Shield aligns themselves with him, and Heyman backstabs Punk, leading to a Punk face turn.

Lesnar and The Shield to feud with Punk, Cena, Ryback, [insert top face here] after Wrestlemania.

Someone might have already mentioned it. Too lazy to go check all the posts.
Yeah, I mentioned it already.

So wait... Punk turns face again and sides with two guys he's been beating the last couple of months and have also wanted to tear Punk apart? Better yet, he's going to go up against one of Heyman's guys... while Heyman is aligned with Punk?

I doubt that would happen.

The only reason I see Lesnar coming out is if he is going right for Ryback. After beating Triple H, Lesnar said he was leaving because there was nothing else left for him. Well, he's never beaten Ryback and that could be a new challenge. The only way I see it going down, and it doesn't even mean the Shield has to be linked with Lesnar or "working for him." I like the idea of them working for each other, and it should stay that way. Lesnar just involves himself because he wants to destroy Ryback and be the true dominating force of the WWE.

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12-13-2012, 07:35 AM
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No please. Keep the shield as only ambrose, rollins and reigns. WWE has something good going and i think right now if they added someone else, itd come crashing down. Keep it simple and keep it as the current trio

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12-13-2012, 09:00 AM
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No please. Keep the shield as only ambrose, rollins and reigns. WWE has something good going and i think right now if they added someone else, itd come crashing down. Keep it simple and keep it as the current trio
Yeah, no real need to have them working for someone. Plus, doesn't it contradict their "honor and justice" stand if they are lying all this time and working for someone, instead of working for themselves as they've been saying the last couple of weeks.

It would make no sense.

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12-13-2012, 09:16 AM
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heels are supposed to deceive...so it wouldn't be a big deal to me...

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12-13-2012, 09:52 AM
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but then they would become like every other heel on the roster. The way they are now sets them apart. They arent liars and they arent cowards. Theyre bad ass heels right now. Keep it that way, keep them a trio and lets see where it goes. They get some of the loudest reactions every night, dont ruin that by having them play second fiddle to lesnar or punk.

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12-13-2012, 12:43 PM
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Sheamus will appear on Conan O'Brien tonight @11 ET while Cena will be on Jimmy Fallon after midnight. I may check Conan after watching a little Impact.

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So...there's apparently some "Big Plans for Orton at WM29"....ugh, if true

http://www.wrestlenewz.com/wrestling...tt-attendance/

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12-13-2012, 01:40 PM
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Orton's been irrelevant for so long now, he desperately needs a heel turn. That being said, I don't think it's going to be Orton vs. Sheamus at WrestleMania.

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- The Rock will have a very busy schedule in early 2013.

* Appearing on WWE Raw on January 7th
* Appearing on WWE Raw on January 21st
* Appearing on WWE Raw on January 28th
* Appearing at the Royal Rumble PPV (January 27th)
* Appearing at WWE Elimination Chamber PPV (February 17th)
* Promoting his new reality show Hero on TNT
* Promoting the movie Snitch (opening February 22nd)
* Promoting the movie G.I. Joe: Retaliation (opening March 29th)
* Promoting the movie Pain and Gain (opening April 26th)

Credit: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

and you can 100% put him in for April 7th, WrestleMania 29 and April 8th, Raw.

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12-13-2012, 01:49 PM
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Orton's been irrelevant for so long now, he desperately needs a heel turn. That being said, I don't think it's going to be Orton vs. Sheamus at WrestleMania.
Reading that just makes me a little mad. They have an opportunity to bring Ziggler to the next level, but to do so, he needs to cash in and have a decent run. Not cash in, and then lose it in a span of 1-3 months and then not be in the picture at all heading into WrestleMania.

I mean, let's hypothetically say that the plans are correct. We are in the middle of December, and WM is in April. So let's call that 4 months. If Ziggler DOESN'T cash in at TLC at all, then that pretty much leaves him cashing in in the month of January, and if he does that, let's say at RR, then that only leaves EC as the PPV that Ziggler would have to defend and lose his WHC...and that just sort of buries his character in my opinion.

I think if he cashes in and wins at TLC, he needs to hold his WHC until at least WM if not a little bit longer, just to make sure he gets himself established in the Main Event scene.

If the WWE falls back on Sheamus/Orton, I will be disappointed, especially because I'd be looking at it as they rewarding someone like Orton who, quite frankly, I don't think deserves any rewards at this time, not with being 1 more violation away from an automatic firing.

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12-13-2012, 01:53 PM
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Which is exactly why I don't think Sheamus/Orton will happen. I think Barrett/Sheamus will happen and Ziggler/Orton, maybe with a big double turn at WrestleMania where Ziggler turns face and Orton turns heel.

Ziggler at this point, I'm almost confident is cashing in at TLC (which will turn his match with Cena into a WHC match and he'll win). Then I think he'll go through guys like Big Show, Sheamus, Barrett, etc. to hold on to the championship up until WrestleMania, where he'll face Orton and they'll pull off a double turn.

IF Ziggler doesn't cash in at TLC, I CAN see Orton/Sheamus happening, but Ziggler cashing it in at WrestleMania on one of them.

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Which is exactly why I don't think Sheamus/Orton will happen. I think Barrett/Sheamus will happen and Ziggler/Orton, maybe with a big double turn at WrestleMania where Ziggler turns face and Orton turns heel.

Ziggler at this point, I'm almost confident is cashing in at TLC (which will turn his match with Cena into a WHC match and he'll win). Then I think he'll go through guys like Big Show, Sheamus, Barrett, etc. to hold on to the championship up until WrestleMania, where he'll face Orton and they'll pull off a double turn.

IF Ziggler doesn't cash in at TLC, I CAN see Orton/Sheamus happening, but Ziggler cashing it in at WrestleMania on one of them.
Man...I hope you're right about what you have stated here, because if not, then Ziggler winning and then losing as soon as before WM to set up Sheamus/Orton for the WHC is a humongous waste of Ziggler's talent...especially since he's on the cusp of entering the Main Event picture and being a mainstay.

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Agreed. He's really beginning to break out as a "total package" superstar, in the sense that he can talk, he has charisma and he's one of the most talented in the company today. The fans are buying into him. Having him go over Cena at TLC will be HUGE and if they do waste him and throw him in a filler match at 'Mania and have Orton/Sheamus for the World title, it is, as you say, a big waste of his talents.

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