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12-05-2012, 09:41 AM
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I hope that they draw in the low thousands next year and beyond
Isn't that what their attendance was in 2003 when they won their second World Series? I remember that stadium being virtually empty as the Marlins just kept winning and winning.

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12-05-2012, 10:10 AM
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Isn't that what their attendance was in 2003 when they won their second World Series? I remember that stadium being virtually empty as the Marlins just kept winning and winning.
They certainly had games that low, but averaged they still were in the 10,000's.

I'm saying I hope they have historic lows, where even on the busiest of weekends they are at like 10% capacity. There's zero reason for anybody to support that team until they change ownership.

And I've been one to gleefully mock Florida sports fans, but this is a whole new level of ownership disdain of their fanbase. We're talking Dollar Bill levels here.

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12-05-2012, 10:12 AM
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Marlins supposedly averaged about 16K per game in 03... but I ain't buying it.

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They certainly had games that low, but averaged they still were in the 10,000's.

I'm saying I hope they have historic lows, where even on the busiest of weekends they are at like 10% capacity. There's zero reason for anybody to support that team until they change ownership.

And I've been one to gleefully mock Florida sports fans, but this is a whole new level of ownership disdain of their fanbase. We're talking Dollar Bill levels here.
Throw in a couple Hawks championships during that time period and is there really anything to even ***** about? That's my point. It's one thing to gut a team over and over again, but when the result is a championship, how can you complain? They run their team differently than most but it's been effective. I mean, during a World Series season, they averaged in the 10,000's. Isn't that the fans making the statement that no matter how good the team is, they just won't show up?

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12-05-2012, 10:15 AM
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Diamondbacks on the verge of getting a SS, that they so desperately want..... in Asdrubal Cabrera, for Trevor Bauer, straight up.

I personally love Bauer, and wouldn't do it if I were Arizona... but apparently the organization as a whole has really soured on him. Wish we had someone we could give up for him. He might not be that future Ace prospect he once was, but he still has the upside... but even if he doesn't fully pan out, he could still definitely be a solid and cheaply controlled #3 in a year or two.

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12-05-2012, 10:17 AM
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Wow, Indians just ***** them. I guess they are going for it.

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Wow, Indians just ***** them. I guess they are going for it.
It's not official by any means, but it sounds pretty likely at this point.


Big mistake for the Braves, IMO.

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12-05-2012, 11:45 AM
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Why is it a mistake for Atlanta? Are you suggesting a Simmons/Bauer swap?

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Why is it a mistake for Atlanta? Are you suggesting a Simmons/Bauer swap?
No, suggesting a Simmons/Jupton based deal for Atlanta... that Atlanta refuses to give into.

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12-05-2012, 12:06 PM
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No, suggesting a Simmons/Jupton based deal for Atlanta... that Atlanta refuses to give into.
Oh, I see, I see.

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12-05-2012, 12:16 PM
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Grilli close to signing with someone, please be the Cubs.

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12-05-2012, 12:32 PM
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That'd be nice.

Travis Wood is decent, but imagine if they had Marshall for the seventh and Fuji pans out. I like Marshall/Grilli/Fuji in the last three innings after Garza or Shark go six strong.

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12-05-2012, 12:33 PM
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Honestly, if we do get Grilli... I'd like to see us grab a bat one way or another, and see if we can give the division a run. I still think we'd be one pitcher short, but anything is possible.

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12-05-2012, 12:34 PM
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I have no clue what our outfield is going to look like. So many contenders to slide into a spot, leave, or be signed/acquired.

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12-05-2012, 12:35 PM
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Ray, that bat you think we should acquire is going to be Murphy.

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12-05-2012, 12:37 PM
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Which Murphy? Mets guy?

No Murphy is going to push this team over the edge to compete... Would need someone better than that.

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David Murphy of the Rangers, not Daniel Murphy of the Mets. He's still a good player. If you want to push the team over the edge, you pony up everything for Giancarlo.

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12-05-2012, 12:40 PM
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I didn't even know David Murphy was a free agent this year. He'd be a good signing though, strong left handed bat.

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Shows he is arb eligible... or was suppose to be. Did he make it to FA?

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12-05-2012, 12:43 PM
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No idea. Either we just sign him or give up a little to Texas in a trade. There is already existing trade with Thoyer and Daniels through the Soto and Dempster deals.

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12-05-2012, 12:46 PM
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Or we just get Ellsbury. Imagine an outfield of Soler, Almora, and Ellsbury someday. Sick. Just have to hope Cherington doesn't ask for Almora in a deal.

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I know it's fun to be optimistic, but the Cubs aren't going to make a run at the division just because we add a few relievers, a couple journeymen starters, and an outfield bat. The Reds won 97 games with Votto missing 50+ games, the Cards won 88 with Carpenter basically out the whole year, etc. This division isn't the mid-00s NL West.

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12-05-2012, 12:55 PM
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Sounds like the framework for an Ellsbury deal would require a good starting pitcher.

A deal centered around Garza and Ellsbury makes a lot of sense.

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12-05-2012, 01:00 PM
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Lots of options out there available through trade like Murphy, Ellsbury, and Granderson. Would like to see Theo get Grandy like Hendry refused to do.

"We'd like Curtis, Dave, but we can't give up Vitters."

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12-05-2012, 01:03 PM
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Honestly, if we do get Grilli... I'd like to see us grab a bat one way or another, and see if we can give the division a run. I still think we'd be one pitcher short, but anything is possible.
I agree. If we get him, McCarthy and decent 3B, just go ahead and offer Hamilton 4 years/30M per to play CF. Move him to left when Almora is ready, let him walk when the deal is up.

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