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12-08-2012, 09:16 PM
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Zags out to an 8-0 start.

C'mon, Illinois, don't embarrass the conference plz.

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Tie game at half. Helluva game.

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Might this team actually be as good as we hope?

Great response to a rough start. Size will be an issue all year long but they did alright after the first few minutes passed.

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This has been an awesome game. Was expecting a pretty good one but it has exceeded expectations.

Hoping the Illini can pull this out. The stronger the conference looks, the better IMO.

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12-08-2012, 11:22 PM
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12-08-2012, 11:34 PM
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Loving this team.

People keep wondering how much longer they can live by the three. It's no fluke if you do it exceptionally for ten games.

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Loving this team.

People keep wondering how much longer they can live by the three. It's no fluke if you do it exceptionally for ten games.
Some impressive driving ability put on display against a huge frontcourt tonight as well.

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Pacuiao/Marquez ruled!

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That was way more entertaining than the POS Bears.

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US College soccer is atrocious. It's a collection of athletes playing over the top balls and bus parking.

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The quality isn't great, no, but it's improving.

Either way, I can take pride when my school wins anything, and moreso when it's a sport I'm a fan of.

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12-09-2012, 06:07 PM
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Liverpool with their next 4 games against bottom table teams and 5 of the next 6. About to go on a run

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the Rays agree to send righties James Shields and Wade Davis (plus a player to be named or cash) to the Royals for superprospect outfielder Wil Myers, very good pitching prospect Jake Odorizzi, formerly big-time pitching prospect Mike Montgomery and quality young third base prospect Patrick Leonard.

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12-10-2012, 10:14 AM
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the Rays agree to send righties James Shields and Wade Davis (plus a player to be named or cash) to the Royals for superprospect outfielder Wil Myers, very good pitching prospect Jake Odorizzi, formerly big-time pitching prospect Mike Montgomery and quality young third base prospect Patrick Leonard.
Royals got bent over there. Myers is worth Shields alone.

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12-10-2012, 10:26 AM
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Royals got bent over there. Myers is worth Shields alone.
I agree, not a great deal for them.

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12-10-2012, 11:07 AM
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Davis is the x factor is this deal. He pitched really well out of the bullpen last year. If he can pitch anywhere close to that good as a starter again, the Royals win this deal. If he pitches like he did before when he was starter, I agree, they overpaid.

All in all, the Royals are clearly going for it. They defnitely should, and this deal brings them an ace and another decent starting pitcher / great long man / potential good starting pitcher. Like I said, it comes down to Davis but I feel like they got what they needed and should compete for a playoff spot.

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12-10-2012, 11:45 AM
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All in all, the Royals are clearly going for it. They defnitely should, and this deal brings them an ace and another decent starting pitcher / great long man / potential good starting pitcher. Like I said, it comes down to Davis but I feel like they got what they needed and should compete for a playoff spot.
Shields is not an ace ,, He has 1 year which appears to be anamoly of top notch elite pitching

He is a good #2 ,, But not an ace

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Shields is not an ace ,, He has 1 year which appears to be anamoly of top notch elite pitching

He is a good #2 ,, But not an ace
We have different definitions of "Ace". I am quite familar with yours as others have it too. It includes 3-5 pitchers that qualify as aces. I don't subscribe to that.

If I am picking a winner on this deal today, it is cleary the Rays. But I think we need to see what happens with Davis and the Royals playoff chances this year before we say they lost. If Davis plays to his potential, Shields does the same as the last two years and the Royals make the playoffs, Royals made one hell of a deal, regardless of how good of a career Myers has. This is either going to go down as a robbery by the Rays or a good trade for both sides. The Rays did the right thing for them, great deal for them.

It can't be said enough though:
  • The Royals have not made the playoffs since 1985, by far the longest streak in the majors
  • They had a super prospect before, Carlos Beltran. They held onto him and let him play out his career until the last minute before free agency. They never made the playoffs because their pitching wasn't good enough, and when they traded him, they got back Mike Wood, Mark Teahen and John Buck back.
  • Free agents don't want to go to Kansas City, winning is the only thing that is going to change that.
  • The Royals most likely would not have ever made the playoffs during the next 6 years of Myers team controlled years.

The above points are undisputed facts that must be taken into account when evaluating this deal.

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