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So should the owners deemphasize the players?

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12-07-2012, 04:55 AM
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So should the owners deemphasize the players?

I think even most fans who are on the side of the players would agree that, if the players absolutely had to (like if North America were plunged into another Great Depression), they would still play hockey for much less money than they are now, in order to keep food on the table.

After all, many of them don't have the kind of skills that would allow them to get a better job anyways, so if they were desperate, and it was absolutely needed to keep the league from going under, they'd settle for tons less.

Of course, such a horrible scenario isn't likely to happen soon, if ever, and some of the reasons they've gotten paid as much as they have is because they're the very best of a limited group of people, and a lot of money is generated in the sport through advertising, ticket sales and so on, to pay them.

But one of the reasons also causing this is the marketing of the players themselves. A big deal isn't just made in the advertising about the superstars like Crosby and Ovechkin, but even lesser players often get a lot of promotion in terms of calendars, jersey sales and so on.

What this does though is also give the players a lot more leverage when it comes to negotiating things like a new CBA. They know they're relatively irreplaceable, and so I've got to wonder... and these are only examples...

...What if the owners took the names off of the sweaters? And marketed the teams only and not the players? And changed the rules to allow for more hooking/holding, and/or a slower game that would allow less quick, less skilled players to keep up? And didn't allow player interviews? Etc, etc.

Now don't get me wrong. This would have to be a slow process, done in a subtle way, otherwise there might be a backlash. But a lot of this stuff could likely be done without consulting the players at all, or getting their permission at least. After all, it's the owners and not the players that control the promotion of the game.

If this happened, then the owners could eventually get away with signing players for a lot less money. And letting them walk if they want too much. "Oh, we lost left winger #11? What was his name again? Well he was good, but now that The Trap is everywhere, we don't really need a sniper like him as much."

This all would be easier than you might think, and is already partially happening. Now that players heads are all covered up, it's harder to identify them than it used to be. Many teams are so governed by the "systems" their players are ruled by, that individual skills are often getting lost in the shuffle. Even if they don't win the cup, it's helping a lot of lesser skilled teams become competitive, and with a little more rule nudging, could help the "systems" become more dominant than how good the players are, already.

Now I don't expect any fans of the players side of things, or those who are fans of highly skilled teams, or highly skilled play, to like any of this.

But if it would help keep a lid on players salaries, to help keep the league healthy... is heading in this direction possibly a good idea? Some team would still win the Stanley Cup every year... maybe finally it would be your team.

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I think even most fans who are on the side of the players would agree that, if the players absolutely had to (like if North America were plunged into another Great Depression), they would still play hockey for much less money than they are now, in order to keep food on the table.

After all, many of them don't have the kind of skills that would allow them to get a better job anyways, so if they were desperate, and it was absolutely needed to keep the league from going under, they'd settle for tons less.

Of course, such a horrible scenario isn't likely to happen soon, if ever, and some of the reasons they've gotten paid as much as they have is because they're the very best of a limited group of people, and a lot of money is generated in the sport through advertising, ticket sales and so on, to pay them.

But one of the reasons also causing this is the marketing of the players themselves. A big deal isn't just made in the advertising about the superstars like Crosby and Ovechkin, but even lesser players often get a lot of promotion in terms of calendars, jersey sales and so on.

What this does though is also give the players a lot more leverage when it comes to negotiating things like a new CBA. They know they're relatively irreplaceable, and so I've got to wonder... and these are only examples...

...What if the owners took the names off of the sweaters? And marketed the teams only and not the players? And changed the rules to allow for more hooking/holding, and/or a slower game that would allow less quick, less skilled players to keep up? And didn't allow player interviews? Etc, etc.

Now don't get me wrong. This would have to be a slow process, done in a subtle way, otherwise there might be a backlash. But a lot of this stuff could likely be done without consulting the players at all, or getting their permission at least. After all, it's the owners and not the players that control the promotion of the game.

If this happened, then the owners could eventually get away with signing players for a lot less money. And letting them walk if they want too much. "Oh, we lost left winger #11? What was his name again? Well he was good, but now that The Trap is everywhere, we don't really need a sniper like him as much."

This all would be easier than you might think, and is already partially happening. Now that players heads are all covered up, it's harder to identify them than it used to be. Many teams are so governed by the "systems" their players are ruled by, that individual skills are often getting lost in the shuffle. Even if they don't win the cup, it's helping a lot of lesser skilled teams become competitive, and with a little more rule nudging, could help the "systems" become more dominant than how good the players are, already.

Now I don't expect any fans of the players side of things, or those who are fans of highly skilled teams, or highly skilled play, to like any of this.

But if it would help keep a lid on players salaries, to help keep the league healthy... is heading in this direction possibly a good idea? Some team would still win the Stanley Cup every year... maybe finally it would be your team.
I stopped reading around the mention of skills. What a dumb argument - if it can even be called that.

How about we put a cap on how much money the owners are allowed to have - 500 million dollar personal net worth. That would curb their greed nicely. They would be fine with that - after all - these owners have no skills other than sucking the silver spoon, anyways.

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I stopped watching during the clutch and grab era. A league that de-emphasizes skill for the sake of competitiveness and parity is not very interesting. It's just creating another kind of health problem: chronic indifference.

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They could deemphasize the players by everytime they speak about this negotiation process, simply referring to it as, Fehr wants this and Fehr doesn't want that, and not even mention the players.

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