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Rank by peak: Bossy vs Lafontaine vs Oates vs Selanne vs Bure

Rank by who was best at their peak: Bossy vs Lafontaine vs Oates vs Selanne vs Bure.

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Bossy, LaFontaine, Selanne, Oates, Bure

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Bossy, Lafontaine, Bure, Selanne, Oates

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Bossy, Lafontaine, Bure, Selanne, Oates.

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LaFontaine only had the one otherworldly season and he was healthy enough for a lot of years, and even then I'm not sure he was that much better than Oates that season. I'd have him 5th.

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Oates and LaFontaine had comparable peaks...

The year LaFontaine had 148 points, Oates was right there that season with 142

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Have to define what "peak" means. A peak should not be one season only.

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I absolutely love Bossy. one of my all time favorites but I don't see how he would be ranked number one in peak. If we are talking about prime then Bossy is number 1 without a doubt. His whole career was his prime but did he really elevate himself in any season/seasons? He was the most consistent goalscorer of the bunch, but if we are talking about peak I could very well take anyone of the others before Bossy. Although there is no clear cut number one.

come to think of it I would say LaFontaine should be #5 if you don't limit peak to just one season. Yes he had that monster 148 point season, but before that and after that he was injured so much I can't give full credit to him for those seasons.


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Have to define what "peak" means. A peak should not be one season only.
Oates' peak was 1990-94, where he had seasons of 102, 115, 99, 142 and 112 points. That beats pretty much everyone on here if were counting multiple seasons.

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Oates' peak was 1990-94, where he had seasons of 102, 115, 99, 142 and 112 points. That beats pretty much everyone on here if were counting multiple seasons.
115 points in just 61 games

1.89 PPG


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Oates' peak was 1990-94, where he had seasons of 102, 115, 99, 142 and 112 points. That beats pretty much everyone on here if were counting multiple seasons.
does mike bossy not have a four year regular season peak where he never scored less than 118 points and was first team all-star at RW all four years? plus an almost exactly overlapping four year playoff peak with four cups and three straight 17 goal postseasons, and a conn smythe?

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does mike bossy not have a four year regular season peak where he never scored less than 118 points and was first team all-star at RW all four years? plus an almost exactly overlapping four year playoff peak with four cups and three straight 17 goal postseasons, and a conn smythe?
I was going off what he said

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I absolutely love Bossy. one of my all time favorites but I don't see how he would be ranked number one in peak. If we are talking about prime then Bossy is number 1 without a doubt. His whole career was his prime but did he really elevate himself in any season/seasons? He was the most consistent goalscorer of the bunch, but if we are talking about peak I could very well take anyone of the others before Bossy. Although there is no clear cut number one.

come to think of it I would say LaFontaine should be #5 if you don't limit peak to just one season. Yes he had that monster 148 point season, but before that and after that he was injured so much I can't give full credit to him for those seasons.

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^ not sure i follow. so you're saying oates has the best multi-season peak after bossy? or that oates' best consecutive 4/5 > bossy's best 4/5?

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what led you to select these 5 players? Seems pretty random

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what led you to select these 5 players? Seems pretty random
Similar multi-season peak point finishes. Bossy/Bure/Selanne are the multi richard winners, Oates the multi assist king playmaker, and Lafontaine as a curve ball due to shortest peak but noteworthy.

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if we break it down to best single season, we have:

lafontaine in '93: 148 points, good showing in the playoffs to sweep boston and lose to montreal in 4 straight OT games (lafontaine missed the clincher). 3rd in hart voting.

oates either '91 or '93: so either 2nd in points/game behind gretzky and helping hull to his historic 86 goal season (downside: he missed 20 games) or 142 points carrying joe juneau and dmitri kvartalnov while leading the league in assists in a crazily competitive year and ending up with the all time highest single-season assist total of anyone not named bobby, wayne, or mario. phenomenal playoff numbers in both years, but his teams didn't accomplish much; upset both years by teams far lower in the standings.

selanne, one of the late 90s years, probably '98 because that was the year where he did it without kariya and finished 3rd in hart voting (downside: he also missed some games and his team missed the playoffs). the two years surrounding it he finished 3rd in points, but finished "only" 5th in hart voting. decent playoff numbers, no significant team success.

bure, '94: led the league in goals, 5th in points, monster 16 goal playoff run to the finals. non-factor in hart voting, but contended for the smythe.

but mike bossy in '82 has to take the cake here: 64 goals (2nd behind gretzky's absolute best goal scoring year), 83 assists (4th, higher than trottier), 147 points (2nd, behind gretzky's 212), 17 playoff goals, 27 playoff points, conn smythe, stanley cup.


only bossy peaks with a cup, let alone a conn smythe, and in that same year he also had the crazy regular season spike in numbers, finishing only one point behind lafontaine's magical 148, but in 80 games as opposed to 84. i don't know how this is even a contest. best single season, best two years, best three years, best five years-- bossy wins them all.

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I'll go not with stats, but with how great, dominant, and electrifying was the player on the ice.

Bossy
Bure
Selanne
Lafontaine
Oates

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Rank by who was best at their peak: Bossy vs Lafontaine vs Oates vs Selanne vs Bure.
Who had the best peak? Alright, overall prime it is Bossy for sure. Anyone disagree? But peak, I usually think of how they were at their very best. For Bossy this would be 1982. He had 147 points and then a 17-goal Conn Smythe performance.

I don't think anyone on that list beats him. Selanne and Bure aren't there. Oates was a shade below Lafontaine in 1993 at his best and Lafontaine certainly stood out like a sore thumb that year with his incredible season. It might look something like this:

Bossy
Lafontaine
Oates/Selanne
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Bossy
Selanne
Lafontaine
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Bure
Bossy
Selanne
Lafontaine
Oates
Do tell about this one please

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Damn Oates is being underrated, he only played 2.5 seasons with Hull and didn't even have his best season during that time. So its not like he was a product of having a great goal scorer on his wing.

His years in Boston he really did not have much of a supporting cast outside of Bourque and 49 games of Cam Neely.

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Do tell about this one please
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Bossy
Bure
Selanne
Lafontaine
Oates

Strange group of five, but here's my rankings none the less.

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Damn Oates is being underrated, he only played 2.5 seasons with Hull and didn't even have his best season during that time. So its not like he was a product of having a great goal scorer on his wing.

His years in Boston he really did not have much of a supporting cast outside of Bourque and 49 games of Cam Neely.
agreed. i have bossy as an easy #1, then oates, then after him bure slightly ahead of lafontaine and selanne.

peak adam oates: turned plumbers into scoring stars, scoring stars into league leaders, and league leaders into record challengers. he was magic.

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