With the Jays' popularity at an all time high in the city and a cake walk for the Jays marketing team... a Brian Wilson signing would be the cherry on top.
Outside of what he would bring to the mound, a lot of people would take to this guy fast.
With the Jays' popularity at an all time high in the city and a cake walk for the Jays marketing team... a Brian Wilson signing would be the cherry on top.
Outside of what he would bring to the mound, a lot of people would take to this guy fast.
On a 1 year deal, it couldn't hurt.
how much do people think wilson is looking for? I'd assume he wants a 1 year deal to prove he can still pitch after surgery. Janssen - Santos - Wilson would be a scary trio, that being said i' not sure we need him
With the Jays' popularity at an all time high in the city and a cake walk for the Jays marketing team... a Brian Wilson signing would be the cherry on top.
Outside of what he would bring to the mound, a lot of people would take to this guy fast.
On a 1 year deal, it couldn't hurt.
Wait, he's a FA?
Well, Wilson is a closer. We have Santos who is a question mark, but we also Janssen. I dont think we need him right now.
Well, Wilson is a closer. We have Santos who is a question mark, but we also Janssen. I dont think we need him right now.
There's no telling if Santos will return to the level he pitched at, and there's no telling if Janssen can sustain his success in the closer's role. Having insurance like Brian Wilson who is apparently looking for a Madson-like contract for a year wouldn't be too much of a risk.
how much do people think wilson is looking for? I'd assume he wants a 1 year deal to prove he can still pitch after surgery. Janssen - Santos - Wilson would be a scary trio, that being said i' not sure we need him
I'm not sure what the Jays are going to get out of Santos. You can't really be too sure about someone after TJ. The same can be said about Wilson in that respect.
So you are essentially tying up 2 roster spots on question marks. Not really smart to do that. So I guess, as I'm typing this, it wouldn't be a really smart signing with a bullpen that has really taken form over the past year.
My concern with Wilson is that he's had a pretty high walk rate and it went up further in his last full season. I'm pretty indifferent either way on this one. He's a true closer though and with Oliver's potential loss he could be a nice add. But he's another risky pitcher that could amount to not much more then another project.
I'm not sure what the Jays are going to get out of Santos. You can't really be too sure about someone after TJ. The same can be said about Wilson in that respect.
So you are essentially tying up 2 roster spots on question marks. Not really smart to do that. So I guess, as I'm typing this, it wouldn't be a really smart signing with a bullpen that has really taken form over the past year.
*he had shoulder surgery, not TJ (which involves the elbow). Results after shoulder surgery tend to be less certain than the elbow nowadays. So your concern is justified. Just a minor correction
i'd sign him to a similar contract to the one Madson signed. 3.5 a year + bonuses which could bring it to 7 million. If he bounces back, extend him, and we've got ourselves a proven stud closer
Is Mark Reynolds good? Think the Jays would be interested?
Honestly, he's probably an upgrade over Adam Lind, not that it's saying much.
He's probably about the same defensively, and the fact that he provides a league-average OBP in spite of his godawful strikeout totals (we're talking epically historically godawful. Reynolds has 3 of the top 5 highest K totals for a season of all time, including the highest) and awful BA is a minor miracle and speaks to his ability to take a walk. Basically he's the Arencibia of 1st basemen (which is to stay he's still better than JP would be if he were stuck at 1st.). Or perhaps slightly more accurately, he's more like what we hope Arencibia becomes, insofar as that he can actually avoid swinging at stupid pitches sometimes.
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dont get why we would go for him unless im missing something
he's a young pitcher that has a new 5 year 25 million dollar contract with 2 team options. So he's locked in until 2016 and could be extended through 2018. He's coming off a great season and has shown progressing throughout his short career. I think he'd be a pretty solid pick up especially for an expendable piece.
Arencibia is the most likely to be moved and the Jays previously have talked about him in trades for pitchers such as Rays right-hander Wade Davis and Mets left-hander Jon Niese, according to major league sources. The Jays might need to give more than the 26-year-old to acquire such a pitcher, but aren’t necessarily eager to make that type of move
Arencibia is the most likely to be moved and the Jays previously have talked about him in trades for pitchers such as Rays right-hander Wade Davis and Mets left-hander Jon Niese, according to major league sources. The Jays might need to give more than the 26-year-old to acquire such a pitcher, but aren’t necessarily eager to make that type of move
Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports..
I really think that its a poor call to trade JPA.
Despite the speculation from Rosenthal, I just don't see how its a good idea for that to happen.
What has Travis D'Arnaud done to prove this to you? His AAA numbers are solid, but so were Gose's before he came up and started hitting .223 and not being able to adjust to the pitching.... Hechavarria only hit .254.... All of these elite prospects that you start to rely on, take a couple years. Yea, D'Arnaud could be close to being a guaranteed thing but for the slight chance that you get rid of him and he's not, then you shoot yourself in the foot. JP gets traded and Buck jets in free agency... then you rely on a rookie and trying to find a back-up catcher that can give you the quality innings that Buck could.
Finding an catcher of equivalent skill to John Buck isn't exactly a difficult proposition.
I was going to use Wieters as an example of an elite catching prospect that took a lot of time to pan out with the bat, but even in his worst MLB season he had a higher wOBA than JP in 2012.
I really have nothing against keeping JP and giving D'Arnaud more AB's in Buffalo, but if we can get a decent controllable mid-rotation starter I'd go for it in a second.
What has Travis D'Arnaud done to prove this to you? His AAA numbers are solid, but so were Gose's before he came up and started hitting .223 and not being able to adjust to the pitching.... Hechavarria only hit .254.... All of these elite prospects that you start to rely on, take a couple years. Yea, D'Arnaud could be close to being a guaranteed thing but for the slight chance that you get rid of him and he's not, then you shoot yourself in the foot. JP gets traded and Buck jets in free agency... then you rely on a rookie and trying to find a back-up catcher that can give you the quality innings that Buck could.
Gose didnt hit anywhere close to what d'Arnaud did in AAA.
Gose OPS'ed .785 vs d'Arnaud who OPS'ed .975.
Niether Gose nor Hech didnt show dominance with the bat like d'Arnaud did last season.
We have Buck for this entire year and d'Arnaud will be 25 by next season if Buck bolts and finding backup catchers are so easy to find (Mathis, Torreabla types).
Finding an catcher of equivalent skill to John Buck isn't exactly a difficult proposition.
I was going to use Wieters as an example of an elite catching prospect that took a lot of time to pan out with the bat, but even in his worst MLB season he had a higher wOBA than JP in 2012.
I really have nothing against keeping JP and giving D'Arnaud more AB's in Buffalo, but if we can get a decent controllable mid-rotation starter I'd go for it in a second.
Exactly.
We picked up a decent one mid season for nothing in Torrealba.
Gose didnt hit anywhere close to what d'Arnaud did in AAA.
Gose OPS'ed .785 vs d'Arnaud who OPS'ed .975.
Niether Gose nor Hech didnt show dominance with the bat like d'Arnaud did last season.
We have Buck for this entire year and d'Arnaud will be 25 by next season if Buck bolts and finding backup catchers are so easy to find (Mathis, Torreabla types).
How is he at calling games?
I'm really not worried about the bat either, but a veteran type like Buck will help. And replacing him will be harder than people expect. Take a look at the free agent catching market next off-season. Not really any veterans there that jump out at you.
