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01-13-2013, 08:19 AM
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I support starting the draft clock early next week. By that time we should have everything in order. Also are we going to be using the same draft order that was determined last week or are we going with another random draft order (Assuming Option 1 wins).

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01-14-2013, 02:54 PM
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I support starting the draft clock early next week. By that time we should have everything in order. Also are we going to be using the same draft order that was determined last week or are we going with another random draft order (Assuming Option 1 wins).
I actually really like VI's idea of making Saturday the 19th (the first day of the actual NHL season) the first day of the draft. Why don't we have the draft order and all the rules finalized by Jan 19th and allow GMs to start swapping draft positions and making picks? But it's too early to officially start the clock - you need some leeway between when everything is finalized and when the clock starts running. If we can get everything else together by the 19th, we'll officially start the clock on Wednesday Jan 23.

How does that sound?

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I actually really like VI's idea of making Saturday the 19th (the first day of the actual NHL season) the first day of the draft. Why don't we have the draft order and all the rules finalized by Jan 19th and allow GMs to start swapping draft positions and making picks? But it's too early to officially start the clock - you need some leeway between when everything is finalized and when the clock starts running. If we can get everything else together by the 19th, we'll officially start the clock on Wednesday Jan 23.

How does that sound?
Definitely start the draft before the clock, gives everyone a few days to get settled down and primed before their first round selection. I like a Saturday start as well.

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I actually really like VI's idea of making Saturday the 19th (the first day of the actual NHL season) the first day of the draft. Why don't we have the draft order and all the rules finalized by Jan 19th and allow GMs to start swapping draft positions and making picks? But it's too early to officially start the clock - you need some leeway between when everything is finalized and when the clock starts running. If we can get everything else together by the 19th, we'll officially start the clock on Wednesday Jan 23.

How does that sound?
No point in waiting 4 days.Monday 21th sounds better but I won't make a scene for such a minor differance so everything is fine with me.

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01-14-2013, 04:17 PM
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No point in waiting 4 days.Monday 21th sounds better but I won't make a scene for such a minor differance so everything is fine with me.
The point is so GMs who aren't online 24/7 like you and me have time to prepare.


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01-14-2013, 04:50 PM
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The point is so GMs who aren't online 24/7 like you and me have time to prepare.
I'm fine with it either way.I'm not as impatient as I once was.

But for the record , participating in the ATD normally involves being online every 48 hours at least for 5 minutes.

No need to have OCD like us

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01-16-2013, 12:46 PM
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How are these for the rules? It's a copy and paste job of the ATD2012 rules modified with the changes we made.

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1). The draft will last 25 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards, a coach and 4 extra picks.

2). The time windows will be tight but reasonable.
  • 12 hour clock for the first two rounds, (sending a shortlist to another GM highly encouraged here)
  • then 10 hour clock for rounds 3-6,
  • then 8 hour clock for rounds 7-14,
  • then 6 hour clock for rounds 15-20,
  • then 4 hour clock for rounds 21-25
One hour time window deduction for each skipped pick (two hour deduction for missing a 12 hour clock - leave a list), with a minimum 4 hour clock guaranteed regardless of deductions.

3). Trades
  • Trading is to be reasonably fair and balanced and lopsided trades will need to be re-worked or dropped. This is at the discretion of the trade committee.
  • Each team may make up to 8 trades.
  • A submitted trade counts towards the maximum, even if it is vetoed (exception - first time GMs). Don't submit lopsided trades.
  • No more than 4 assets per team may be traded at a time.
  • Swapping all positions before the draft doesn't count as a "trade" for the purposes of the above rules.
  • Trading while on the clock is allowed. However, using your entire clock to openly shop a pick annoys your fellow GMs, so do it sparingly. If GMs abuse trading on the clock, a rule could be added against it
4). At the conclusion of the draft, there will be a 10 day period for lineup assassinations. Assassinations will be divided by division.

5). Regular season rankings MUST BE VOTED ON by at least one GM (if the team is co-GM'd) per team. The penalty if not done is a potential lowering in the standings because each GM will rank his own team first. Co-GMs who both vote each get half a vote for the regular season rankings in their own division.

6). All Teams make the playoffs. Playoffs will be cross-divisional - Seed 1 will face Seed 4 from the adjacent division, and Seed 2 will face Seed 3 from the adjacent division.

7). REGULAR SEASON AND PLAYOFF VOTING TO BE A SET RESPONSIBILITY.

8). NO MENTIONING UNDRAFTED PLAYERS!!!

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01-16-2013, 01:15 PM
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How are these for the rules? It's a copy and paste job of the ATD2012 rules modified with the changes we made.
I REALLY like them. Although I'm willing to do the MLD w/o them for social reasons, I hope they're adopted for the MLD also. Great job all.

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How are these for the rules? It's a copy and paste job of the ATD2012 rules modified with the changes we made.
I also approve those sets of rules. Good job gentleman.

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01-16-2013, 02:03 PM
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I good, clear set of rules.

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01-17-2013, 09:16 AM
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so are the teams set???

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01-17-2013, 09:19 AM
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Good to have it all clear to everyone before the thing starts.

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01-17-2013, 09:28 AM
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It would seem all of the teams are set.

A lottery can probably occur now today. What time do we want something like this?

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It would seem all of the teams are set.

A lottery can probably occur now today. What time do we want something like this?
And to go along with a lottery later today, We can probably set divisions as well. And then after divisions are set, we can give a certain period of time (I don't know how long that will be because I'm not really someone who wants to) to switch divisions if you want to.

We can then begin drafting at least by Saturday at 12 EST I'd imagine, and we can say the clock starts at 12 EST on Tuesday?

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01-17-2013, 09:45 AM
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It would seem all of the teams are set.

A lottery can probably occur now today. What time do we want something like this?
I can do it now, if that would be helpful. Just say the word.

edit: ermm...somebody tell me where to find the full list of teams.

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01-17-2013, 09:53 AM
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All seems good to me, glad to see this thing is starting. Also was good for all of us to be able to voice our opinion on the various issues involved.

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let's wait for TDMM , he is the one in communication via pm with the last few teams and the situation was unclear yesterday , after that we can do the lottery right away and set the divisions.

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01-17-2013, 11:59 AM
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And to go along with a lottery later today, We can probably set divisions as well.
Alternating conferences formula:

1st overall team is assigned to the Foster Hewitt Division
2nd overall team is assigned to the Bob Cole Division
3rd overall team is assigned to the Jim Robson Division
4th overall team is assigned to the Rene Lecavalier Division
5th overall team is assigned to the James Creighton Division
6th overall team is assigned to the Ray Scapinello Division
7th overall team is assigned to the Louis Magnus Division
8th overall team is assigned to the Sam Pollock Division

REPEAT for 9th-16th overall, then 17th-24th, then 25th-32nd

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The 2013 All-Time Draft

Red Fisher Conference

Foster Hewitt Division
Jim Robson Division
James Creighton Division
Louis Magnus Division

Jim Coleman Conference

Bob Cole Division
Rene Lecavalier Division
Ray Scapinello Division
Sam Pollock Division
Foster Hewitt and Jim Robson playoff crossover;
James Creighton Division and Louis Magnus Division playoff crossover;
Bob Cole Division and Rene Lecavalier Division playoff crossover;
Ray Scapinello Division and Sam Pollock Division playoff crossover.

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01-17-2013, 12:17 PM
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And then after divisions are set, we can give a certain period of time (I don't know how long that will be because I'm not really someone who wants to) to switch divisions if you want to.
48 hours ought to do. I'll PM everyone their draft order once sturminator randomizes and posts it (which he'll do after the last sign-up is confirmed, right?)

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48 hours ought to do. I'll PM everyone their draft order once sturminator randomizes and posts it (which he'll do after the last sign-up is confirmed, right?)
Yup...just waiting to see how things shake out with the rookies.

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Lottery...number two! Pretty excited over here.

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The lottery will consist of my wife picking names out of a hat, so all complaints about draft position can be directed to someone who really, truly does not give a ****.

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The lottery will consist of my wife picking names out of a hat, so all complaints about draft position can be directed to someone who really, truly does not give a ****.
is it just you, me and papershoes that are married? I forget.

I think GMM said he had teenaged kids too...

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01-17-2013, 03:21 PM
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is it just you, me and papershoes that are married? I forget.

I think GMM said he had teenaged kids too...
I'm engaged, but doubt I'll be married by ATD 2014, unless I come into money.

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