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12-04-2012, 10:45 AM
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Lockout could result in league loosing Winter Classic creator

wyshynski 7:31am via twitterfeed New Puck Daddy: John Collins, NHL COO, could be costly lockout casualty for Bettman yhoo.it/VwNvbR


John Collins is not a "happy camper". The lockout has cancelled his most ambitious Winter Classic to date. And many other of his responsible events, leaving him to talk sponsors down from the ledge.



He might walk (soon?) if the lockout drags on.

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12-04-2012, 11:20 AM
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It's just like I tell my kids, "Actions have consequences."

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The league would lose a visionary who "thought up" a concept that was done in the NCAA years earlier? How ever would it recover?

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I thought the creator was a sponsor or something and that this would jeopardize having another Winter Classic. I could certainly live without it but it would be a huge blow to the league and players in terms of revenue. Based on this information, I would think that the league could just replace him with someone else to organize these kind of events if the guy does walk.

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Good. I hope he leaves and leaves the NHL in tatters.

Maybe the thought of losing this visionary will motivate the owners to get their **** together.

Sick of this dog and pony show!

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I have some ideas, they can hire me

But seriously what Collins has done isn't as impressive as the fact that he's managed to convince stubborn old men running the NHL to give him the green light to actually do it.

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John Collins via email re: rumors of his departure:

"Not true. No one is/will be happy until we reach a long-term agreement that returns our focus to growing the game/revenues."

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John Collins via email re: rumors of his departure:

"Not true. No one is/will be happy until we reach a long-term agreement that returns our focus to growing the game/revenues."
de-nile is the NHL mode of operating.

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The league would lose a visionary who "thought up" a concept that was done in the NCAA years earlier? How ever would it recover?
Executing a good idea is a different matter. It's not an easy event to put on an annual basis.

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I'm surprised nobody's mentioning the most significant thing about Collins: he's been speculated to be the heir-apparent to Bettman for a while. If the league is willing to let him go, that's a big change in their long-term plans.

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Meh.

Winter Classics are overhyped and 90% of them (with the exception of the Detroit and Chicago one) have been snoozefests.

Really the only cool WC related things are/were 24/7 and the fact that the Pens and Caps one was played at night. And the "night game" thing only came to be because of all the rain and stuff that Pittsburgh got that afternoon/evening.

Let him go I say.

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Anything that costs the owners and players money over the next CBA is a good thing. It's the only way to condition them into acting more responsibly in the future.

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I'm surprised nobody's mentioning the most significant thing about Collins: he's been speculated to be the heir-apparent to Bettman for a while. If the league is willing to let him go, that's a big change in their long-term plans.
I figured that was Daly, isn't he the deputy commissioner now (a la Adam Silver in the NBA)?

And I don't think the league has a choice about letting him go if he is truly fed up and resigns. He's got other important jobs he can do that don't shut down twice in eight years.

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The league would lose a visionary who "thought up" a concept that was done in the NCAA years earlier? How ever would it recover?
Yeah, because his job was simply coming up with ideas and leaving the work to everyone else....

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Why have they had him tied him up for so long?
Loose him, and let him go free!


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I figured that was Daly, isn't he the deputy commissioner now (a la Adam Silver in the NBA)?
That used to be the assumption, but there have been reports for a couple of years that Collins is now the guy (e.g., http://www.torontosun.com/sports/col.../14369366.html - buried in the middle of the first big paragraph.)

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And I don't think the league has a choice about letting him go if he is truly fed up and resigns. He's got other important jobs he can do that don't shut down twice in eight years.
Agreed. He's more competent than this league deserves.

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NHL deserves it.

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Meh.

Winter Classics are overhyped and 90% of them (with the exception of the Detroit and Chicago one) have been snoozefests.

Really the only cool WC related things are/were 24/7 and the fact that the Pens and Caps one was played at night. And the "night game" thing only came to be because of all the rain and stuff that Pittsburgh got that afternoon/evening.

Let him go I say.
The game and surrounding events are the NHL's biggest money maker, by far. It brings in more money than some franchises do. It's not overhyped.

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It's funny to think that Collins is the same guy who wanted to engage in a power struggle when he was with the Cleveland Browns, and ended up getting the boot as a result. When he started receiving all this praise in the NHL, I actually had to look to see if it was the same guy.

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Would be great if he goes to KHL

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It's already been reported that he isn't leaving.

"Collins responded to the 'departure talk' through an email to Pierre LeBrun:

"Not true. No one is/will be happy until we reach a long-term agreement that returns our focus to growing the game/revenues."

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Yeah, because his job was simply coming up with ideas and leaving the work to everyone else....
What else was his job?

Securing a TV deal with the, then Hunting and Billiards Channel? If anything, we should be thanking the UFC for buying the WEC and making the channel more "mainstream" and in turn churning the wheels on making the channel becoming what it is today, which the NHL is benefitting from.

Securing sponsorship deals that are so lucrative that more than half the teams are bleeding money once they spread that sugar out across the league?

Is he responsible for the strong Canadian dollar that is keeping the Western Canadian teams afloat?

Let me know what this visionary is responsible for, because this league is a complete flipping mess, so I wanna know what else I can associate him with, other than stealing an idea from the NCAA and slapping a catchy name to it. A game that the loyal fans loathe because its usually extremely slow and crappy hockey.

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