So you're telling me that if hockey comes back and the Devils make the Cup finals, you won't be excited for it?
Honestly, regardless if the Devils are playing in the Final or it's some other team, I'd hope by that time, I wont feel the way I do right now. I don't like feeling this way about something I care about. But these ****ers killed my enthusiasm. I'm tired of the constant ******** with this league. Done with it.
edit: so did talks break off again or did they not? all different reports coming out right now.
Last edited by Sir Fenwick Corsi: 12-06-2012 at 05:41 PM.
How about put a negotiation clause that at the expiration of the next CBA each party must have a federal mediator assigned to each side and a third neutral will oversee it all if a new agreement is not reached by the start of the pre-season and they alone will negotiate the terms of the agreement with guidance from the two sides and their legal counsel. After 10 days the mediators will draft a final agreement and it will stand as a working agreement to keep the season going unless the NHLPA and Owners can reach a subsequent agreement that would supercede the mediated working agreement to avoid a work stoppage.
No Stoppage Clause.
That would be nice for us, but neither side will go for that. They don't want to give up their nuclear option, so they will always reserve the right to strike/lockout.
Originally Posted by Jersey Man
Chris Johnston @reporterchris
Fehr says there's agreement on pensions, transition payments.
Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun
Fehr feels both sides should be able to reach a deal given what players have come back with. Feels there's a complete agreement on "dollars"
Good so far.
First time we've heard this, right? That sounds like real progress, but let's not get too excited yet.
Reading between the lines, Fehr never said "this is the deal to be made"
He says they're close and they're building off the agreement they have on certain issues.
If the NHL doesn't accept the idea of an 8 year CBA, that's where the very important "bargaining" and "negotiation" terms come into play.
They're close. It's time to bridge that gap, not burn it and run away.
And that's probably why the NHLPA was fussing over a mediator. They didn't want something like 2 years or a small percentage of dollars to blow up negotiations when good momentum had finally been found.
Sorry guys, but I don't believe a damn thing Fehr says. He's the last person I'd listen to. Didn't he say here not too long ago to the media that the sides were close on most issues, and then Daly said that they weren't? Around Thanksgiving or whenever they met before? I can't remember exactly what.
Nick Cotsonika @cotsonika
Don Fehr: It's not positive. We were advised in a voice mail message that the moves the players made were not acceptable.
But what they are separated on definitely shouldn't be delayed much longer.
Now it's just about making some concessions. Maybe some of the stuff will be conditional on age, games played, who knows. The max of five years is pretty unreasonable to expect the players to accept it.
I think the problem is they want to see more movement from players, and don't want players to be locked up. So a guy that turns into a UFA at age 27, they don't want him locked up for all his good years and 5 stops that.