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Game times to kill Canadian WJC buzz? (TSN's broadcast schedule)

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12-13-2012, 08:42 PM
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but could those NON nhl cities draw as much as the european cities. Wth reports the Quebec city might be getting a new arena, a team is not far behind. You need proper arenas for the games and most cities in canada that could hold the games have nhl teams, only hamilton does not. Despite what many people think, both the world JR and World Championships are popular in the places where they are held and fans flock to them
Your final statement intrigued me to do a little research.

2000, venues were in Skelleftea (pop. 71580) and Umea (pop. 79594). Both Venus had a capacity of 6000. Average attendance for entire tournament was 1191.

2001, venues in Moscow (pop. 11,503,501) which had capacities of 8700 and 5260. Also held in Poldolsk (pop. 187,961) with arena capacity of 5500. Average tournament attendance was 2424.

2002, venues in Pardubice (pop. 90,831) with Capacity of 10000 and in Hrade Kralove (pop. 94,255) with a capacity of 7700. Average tournament attendance was 3260.

2003, venues in Halifax (pop 390,069) with capacity of 10,595 and Sydney (pop. 31,597) with a capacity of 4881. Average attendance for tournament was 7790.

2004, venues were in Helsinki (pop. 602,200) with a capacity of 8200 and in Hameenlinna (pop. 67,434) with a capacity of 5360. Average attendance for the tournament was 3244.

2005, venues were Grand Forks ( pop. 52,838) with capacity of 11,640 and Theif River Falls (pop. 8573) with a capacity of 2569. Average attendance for the tournament was 6234.

2006, venues were Vancouver (pop. 603,502) with capacities of 18,630 and 1628. Other venues were Kelowna (pop. 179,839) with a capacity of 6,880 and Kamloops (pop. 85,678) with a capacity of 5,658. The average attendance for the tournament was 10,488.

2007, venues were Leksand (pop. 5,934) with capacity of 7,650 and Mora (pop. 20,222) with a capacity of 4,500. Average attendance for the tournament was 2,048.

2008, venues were Pardubice (pop. 90,831) with a capacity of 10,000 and Liberec (pop. 104,946) with a capacity of 7,250. Average attendance for the torunament was 3,328.

2009, venues were in Ottawa ( pop. 883,391) with a capacity of 19 153. Average attendance for the torunament was 14,622.

2010, venues were Saskatoon (pop. 222,189) with a capacity of 15,195 and Regina (pop. 193,100) with a capacity of 6,136. Average attendance for he tournament was 9,740.

2011, venues were Buffalo ( pop. 261,025) with a capacity of 18,595. Average attendance for the tournament was 10,365.

2012, venues were Calgary (pop. 1 million approx.) with a capacity of 19,284 and Edmonton (pop. 800,000) with a capacity of 16,839. Average attendance for the tournament was 14,688.

(Note: left a few venues out due to their very small capacity size.)

As you can see, even the highest percent attendance per largest venue of the European tournaments are not even close to the lowest percent attendance per largest venues in NA. 39 percent being the highest for European tournaments (Helsinki) and 53 percent being the lowest for NA tournaments ( Grand Forks). Canada has yet to drop below 64 percent (Saskatoon.). Also worth noting is based on population of host venues, Moscow had the worst turnouts in recent years.


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12-13-2012, 08:50 PM
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Will DVR the games and watch them as soon as I get up to avoid spoilers. No big deal.

Getting up in the middle of the night to watch games sounds fun anyway.
well if you don't have work/school/whatever, it is. I enjoyed watching last year's playoffs from 1 am to 7 am when I was off.

Otherwise, not so much.

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Will they replay the games at later times if I sleep in?

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12-13-2012, 11:08 PM
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I guarantee you if the World Juniors ever came to Toronto it would be the biggest junior hockey tournament ever held. You guys saw Buffalo, now imagine not having to drive for an hour + the border.

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I guarantee you if the World Juniors ever came to Toronto it would be the biggest junior hockey tournament ever held. You guys saw Buffalo, now imagine not having to drive for an hour + the border.
I think they should keep it 50-50


50% in canada
50% on other countries

That would be fair deal because in Canada they happen to have this huge interest for U20, even higher for it than the actual World Championship so I hope they understand that and just keep it there more often.

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This isn't new information or anything, but it struck me to look up when Canada will actually be playing since the tournament is overseas. Who's up for some 4am ET/1 am PT games? I realize Russia gets the prime game times for their home crowd but this looks like a nightmare for TSN ratings. I recall watching early morning games in the past. Nothing this early though. Maybe they are subject to change?

http://www.tsn.ca/world_jrs/feature/?id=62670
2013 World Junior Hockey Championship

Wednesday, December 26 Canada vs. Germany 4am/1am TSN
Slovakia vs. Russia 9am/6am TSN
Thursday, December 27 USA vs. Germany 9am/6am TSN
Friday, December 28 Canada vs. Slovakia 4am/1am TSN
Russia vs. USA 9am/6am TSN
Saturday, December 29 Germany vs. Russia 9am/6am TSN
Sunday, December 30 Canada vs. USA 4am/1am TSN
Slovakia vs. Germany 9am/6am TSN2
Monday, December 31 Canada vs. Russia 8:30am/5:30am TSN
USA vs. Slovakia 5am/2am TSN

Monday, January 2 Quarterfinal 4am/1am TSN
Quarterfinal 7:30am/4:30am TSN
Thursday, January 3 Semifinal 4am/1am TSN
Semifinal 7:30am/4:30am TSN
Saturday, January 5 Gold Medal Game 7:30am/4:30am TSN
Bronze Medal Game 4am/1am TSN
I work until midnight most nights so this is awesome!

I hate having to miss games because I work evenings. I love when the tourney is in Russia!

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12-14-2012, 01:35 AM
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I think they should keep it 50-50


50% in canada
50% on other countries

That would be fair deal because in Canada they happen to have this huge interest for U20, even higher for it than the actual World Championship so I hope they understand that and just keep it there more often.
The thing about the US is that they get the best of both worlds. They host it near the Canadian border but pretend that it isn't going to Canada again.

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I think TSN should play towards the early start even more. Make it an us vs them type deal, people will want to get up early to support them. If TSN markets this right it could still easily work and build up for future years. I think a Sweden tournament next year is a bigger problem.

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I think TSN should play towards the early start even more. Make it an us vs them type deal, people will want to get up early to support them. If TSN markets this right it could still easily work and build up for future years. I think a Sweden tournament next year is a bigger problem.
How is Sweden worse?

6 hour time difference means games would be between 8 am and 1pm. Obviously not ideal but at least there all the games are during normal day hours

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How is Sweden worse?

6 hour time difference means games would be between 8 am and 1pm. Obviously not ideal but at least there all the games are during normal day hours
I mean from a marketable standpoint. The times are better but at least this year you can press the Canada invading Russia theme.

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How is Sweden worse?

6 hour time difference means games would be between 8 am and 1pm. Obviously not ideal but at least there all the games are during normal day hours
But you are usually working during those times. I can watch a 4AM-7AM game before work. I think that was the point.

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Is TSN streaming these games?

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Is TSN streaming these games?
I would have to think so

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The early hour just makes the whole experience more memorable.

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for those in London England--the three kings will be showing all games again this year again

three kings in the only hockey bar in London is near West Kensington Station

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Or, you know, those who have work and/or school.

It's absolutely stupid to hold this tournament outside of North America when you consider revenues and who ultimately cares about the results.
If only Canadians care about the result, then just cancel it.

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With the next two Olympics in Sochi and Pyeongchang, this will become common for the Canadian national team.
Also don't forget WJC is in Russia this year, and Sweden next year....It'll be a while before anything is back on North American shores so get used to it cry babies.

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well, look's like no WJ games for me. BS.
They've got this new invention called a DVR, you should look into it.

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They've got this new invention called a DVR, you should look into it.
I'm DVR'ing every game and watching them with my boys at 9 every morning. I even told my wife that the game times are all at 9 so she wont bother us until atleast noon. I can't wait to start the day with coffee, bacon, and some WJC's over the Christmas break.

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I'm DVR'ing every game and watching them with my boys at 9 every morning. I even told my wife that the game times are all at 9 so she wont bother us until atleast noon. I can't wait to start the day with coffee, bacon, and some WJC's over the Christmas break.
You live a king's life , putting the wife in her place. You're gonna pay for it afterwards though!

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Or, you know, those who have work and/or school.

It's absolutely stupid to hold this tournament outside of North America when you consider revenues and who ultimately cares about the results.
Yeah, no one but Canada wants or deserves to capitalize or make popular off of hockey.

Get your head out of the ground, you've become accustomed to the tremendous gift we've had of hosting for so many years, when it's time to pay it forward, we shouldn't be greedy.

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for those in London England--the three kings will be showing all games again this year again

three kings in the only hockey bar in London is near West Kensington Station
Do you reckon it'll be easy to find places to watch it online as well?

Times are great for me as well only the 7:30 games aren't great but that's only a few.

Games at 12:00 are perfect and then I think the late games are great as well.

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Yeah, no one but Canada wants or deserves to capitalize or make popular off of hockey.

Get your head out of the ground, you've become accustomed to the tremendous gift we've had of hosting for so many years, when it's time to pay it forward, we shouldn't be greedy.
Watch some games this year, note the empty stands. The "gift" we receive here is paying a premium for seats, making money and paying for EVERY team to be here. I know it's the same in other CDN cities, but Vancouver put more people in an arena for Norway and Switzerland than either Norway or Switzerland could. We could let a northern US city host occasionally so Canadians could take a road trip.

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for those in London England--the three kings will be showing all games again this year again

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Maple Leaf in Covent Garden not showing?

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