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02-16-2013, 09:38 AM
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IIRC this is the second 2-1 game in the last short while where Lowry scored and was the number one star and both goalies were the other stars.

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02-16-2013, 09:56 AM
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Adam Lowry is going to pot 40+ on the season in the WHL this year. This forces the Jets to give him a very close look next season with the big team right out of camp. As long as his wheels can prove sufficient at the next level then they need to give this kid a fair shot to stick in the NHL right off the hop. He is so well-rounded, so smart. That is because he was raised by an NHL player in an NHL environment in his formative years. His father was a super smart defensive player, so smart that he is now a head coach in junior. Adam was raised by the man and probably doesn't need to learn the ins and outs of being a pro at the AHL level as such. He is pretty much ready to plug right in and play - as long as the conditioning and wheels are there this coming fall.

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02-16-2013, 10:13 AM
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Depending on how the WHL playoffs go , I would not be surprised to see Lowry get some games in with the Jets this year.

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02-16-2013, 11:11 AM
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We might need to temper our expectationn a bit with Adam. We are all hoping for him but the next level AHL or NHL is a big jump. I agree his ability to transition will be enhanced due his IQ and some of the intangibles mentioned but we need to see how he looks playing against men.

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02-16-2013, 11:29 AM
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We might need to temper our expectationn a bit with Adam. We are all hoping for him but the next level AHL or NHL is a big jump. I agree his ability to transition will be enhanced due his IQ and some of the intangibles mentioned but we need to see how he looks playing against men.
That is why I can see and would have him play some games with the Jets if the playoff run for SC meshes with the schedule.

It isn't promising a spot or stating it is permanent , but a taste to go into the summer with , first hand experience to work from. This is presuming the Jets are looking up once again at playoff teams above them and aren't going to make the cut. I see no detriment to having Lowry get his feet wet and again , nothing for the future is promised by this. He may indeed start next year on the Rock , I fully expect that , maybe half a season , maybe even 2 full ones , but our situation and his may warrant a call up.

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Adam Lowry is going to pot 40+ on the season in the WHL this year. This forces the Jets to give him a very close look next season with the big team right out of camp. As long as his wheels can prove sufficient at the next level then they need to give this kid a fair shot to stick in the NHL right off the hop. He is so well-rounded, so smart. That is because he was raised by an NHL player in an NHL environment in his formative years. His father was a super smart defensive player, so smart that he is now a head coach in junior. Adam was raised by the man and probably doesn't need to learn the ins and outs of being a pro at the AHL level as such. He is pretty much ready to plug right in and play - as long as the conditioning and wheels are there this coming fall.
Completely understand your enthusiasm, but...
...looking back 3 years, there is not a single player drafted in the 3rd Round who is yet playing in the NHL.
Also, if there is one thing we have learned from Atlanta's MO, it is not to rush our prospects.
Lowry will hopefully be a great addition to the Ice caps next year.

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02-16-2013, 11:47 AM
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Completely understand your enthusiasm, but...
...looking back 3 years, there is not a single player drafted in the 3rd Round who is yet playing in the NHL.
Also, if there is one thing we have learned from Atlanta's MO, it is not to rush our prospects.
Lowry will hopefully be a great addition to the Ice caps next year.
Completely understand your conservatism, but, blanket statements about others do not apply to individual cases. Lowry's developmental curve has been exponential this season. He is not playing at the level he was when he was drafted. You might wish to look into the history of players like Brad Richards for example prior to writing off the early chances of picks not taken in the first round.

[mod] I didn't suggest he simply be granted a spot but rather that his performance this season dictates that he be given a fair shot at one in camp... if his skills can keep up at the next level. His background does not necessitate time spent in the AHL if the skills are there in camp; that was kind of the point. The Jets also have a ton of expiring UFA contracts and a poor forward group; there will be spots open if the Jets decide to change the core and culture of the group going forward. His play this fall will possibly dictate the team that he plays for in other words. There isn't a sole developmental template that applies to all players - yet you seem more than willing to apply one for some reason.


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Completely understand your conservatism, but, blanket statements about others do not apply to individual cases. Lowry's developmental curve has been exponential this season. He is not playing at the level he was when he was drafted. You might wish to look into the history of players like Brad Richards for example prior to writing off the early chances of picks not taken in the first round.

[mod] I didn't suggest he simply be granted a spot but rather that his performance this season dictates that he be given a fair shot at one in camp... if his skills can keep up at the next level. His background does not necessitate time spent in the AHL if the skills are there in camp; that was kind of the point. The Jets also have a ton of expiring UFA contracts and a poor forward group; there will be spots open if the Jets decide to change the core and culture of the group going forward. His play this fall will possibly dictate the team that he plays for in other words. There isn't a sole developmental template that applies to all players - yet you seem more than willing to apply one for some reason.
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The reason I did respond in the end is that I felt it was worth emphasizing that we keep our expectations modest and be patient with both our team and our prospects, or risk being sorely disappointed.
That is all.


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Back in TO for a week - taking the wife to see the Colts / Battalion game tomorrow. Should be a good one.

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the other reality check:
how many rookie forwards will the Jets have next year?
i can see 1, but 2? not unless they move some guys out to make room for a rookie.

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OT-- Every time I look at how Lowry is doing, I check on Wpg's own Brendan Leipsic, who is now tearing up the WHL. I have great memories of him as a kid, playing 3 on 3 hockey with my son. Aside from his evident skill, what I remember most was that grin from ear to ear whenever he was on the ice. He just loved the game and it's great to see him doing so well despite his diminutive size.

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02-16-2013, 06:23 PM
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Back in TO for a week - taking the wife to see the Colts / Battalion game tomorrow. Should be a good one.
That's almost like buying your kid sister a catchers mitt for her birthday ... there had better be dinner included

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What does everyone think of Edward Pasquale? Do you think he could be better and more consistent than Pavs?

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What does everyone think of Edward Pasquale? Do you think he could be better and more consistent than Pavs?
He's not stealing any games in the A this year like he did last year. It's really hard to project a goalie who hasn't played in the NHL and is still technically a rookie at the pro level.

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02-16-2013, 08:55 PM
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Scheifele with two primary assists tonight. Barrie won 3-0. Mark assisted on the first two goals and was on the ice when Barrie scored the third en goal.

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02-16-2013, 09:03 PM
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What does everyone think of Edward Pasquale? Do you think he could be better and more consistent than Pavs?
He is like the anti Pav.

Most consider his strengths to be positioning and his glove hand.

If he continues to develop I think he has a good shot at scratching the NHL. Upside is hard to guess.

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Scheifele with two primary assists tonight. Barrie won 3-0. Mark assisted on the first two goals and was on the ice when Barrie scored the third en goal.
Five straight multi point nights since returning.

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I'm hoping that Mark can lead his team deep into the playoffs. High level competition that isn't the NHL is a godsend at this point.

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Kasdorf with 2 wins this weekend. 5-1 last nite & 4-1 tonight. Stopped 26 shots tonight. SV% .942 & 10:2:2 record. Seems to be a real difference maker for a team that was considered pretty much a noncontender from the start of the season.

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02-17-2013, 06:21 AM
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Five straight multi point nights since returning.
14pts in 5 games. He's now moved up to 18th in scoring - he was sitting around 30th when he went back after missing all that time.

PPG pace is now at 1.80. Only Galchenyuk has a better PPG, @ 1.85.

Go Scheif!

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02-17-2013, 10:02 AM
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Maybe now we can finally put to bed the silly notion that Schiefele can't dominate in the OHL as the reason not to keep him up in the NHL. He is 2nd (hopefully soon to be 1st) in scoring pace in the entire league, all while working on his skating and defensive play.

Sorry, I'm still a little angry that he never got an honest look.

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I like the way the future looks for this crew. We have youngsters on the team with high end potential in Burmi, Kane, Bogosian and a solid group of youngsters in Schief, Lowry and Trouba.

That's the makings of a pretty solid young core.

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02-17-2013, 10:48 AM
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I like the way the future looks for this crew. We have youngsters on the team with high end potential in Burmi, Kane, Bogosian and a solid group of youngsters in Schief, Lowry and Trouba.

That's the makings of a pretty solid young core.
The way things are starting to shape up this year, we will get to add a pretty big piece with a high pick this draft. Anything in the top 5 likely gives us another core player moving forward.

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02-17-2013, 11:11 AM
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The way things are starting to shape up this year, we will get to add a pretty big piece with a high pick this draft. Anything in the top 5 likely gives us another core player moving forward.
I think anything top 10 looks like a core player. Likely even deeper.

Bogosian, Kane, Burmistrov, Scheifele, Trouba and XXXXX is a very decent run of picks that should form the core of a perennial playoff team.

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I think anything top 10 looks like a core player. Likely even deeper.

Bogosian, Kane, Burmistrov, Scheifele, Trouba and XXXXX is a very decent run of picks that should form the core of a perennial playoff team.
At one point last week CBJ was sitting with 3 picks inside the top 12. That won't continue, but Wow.

I still have no idea where the Jets will finish. They aren't winning, but they aren't getting whooped.

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