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12-08-2012, 09:14 AM
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Imagine this scenario.

Team Canada plays its first game at the world junior championships in Ufa, Russia on Boxing Day, presumably registering a victory against Germany.

Then the next day six or more of the team's best players are summoned back to North America to participate in 10-day NHL training camps prior to the commencement of the 2012-13 season, leaving Canada will only a shell of a roster.

It would be national disgrace, and would all but kill Canada's chance of even getting a medal at a tournament it has dominated.

Right now, however, it could happen.

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Of that group, only Maple Leafs GM Brian Burke was willing to say that if Rielly accompanies the team to Finland for pre-tournament training, the Leafs would not then pull him back if the lockout ends.

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12-08-2012, 09:43 AM
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This is my final team.

Huberdeau - RNH - Rattie
Mackinnon - Strome - Scheifele
ShinkarukMonahan - Jenner - Graovac
Wilson - Danault - Ritchie
Catenacci

Rielly - Hamilton
Harrington - Ouellette
Reinhart - Pelech
Murphy

Subban
Binnington
Broissoit
One Change...You forgot Monahan...i dont know much about Catenacci except he is very fast???I like your D

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12-08-2012, 09:54 AM
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No way will players be called back once they are on that plane....That is just silly...If i were team canada, i would name the team on Tuesday an fly on wednesday....

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12-08-2012, 10:45 AM
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Players won't be called back during the tournament. That'd just be ludicrous and why wouldn't they let the players get their "training" in then and then come back in game mode?

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I can't see them all being called back mid tournament.

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Players won't be called back during the tournament. That'd just be ludicrous and why wouldn't they let the players get their "training" in then and then come back in game mode?
Because they would be fighting for jobs with other guys at the training camp

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12-08-2012, 11:39 AM
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Because they would be fighting for jobs with other guys at the training camp
From TSN:

The league has cancelled games through Dec. 14. It's expected that the remainder of December's games will be taken off the schedule, possibly on Monday.

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12-08-2012, 12:03 PM
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With Rielly, Hamilton, RNH and Huberdeau is such an incredibly dangerous top line. All we need is a solid finisher like Rattie or Schiefle and you have the most dangerous top line in the tournament. Speed, playmaking, creativity...offfensively they have it all.

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12-08-2012, 12:21 PM
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The league has cancelled games through Dec. 14. It's expected that the remainder of December's games will be taken off the schedule, possibly on Monday.
The NHL will do this purely for the WJC.

It would be an embarrassment, and would ruin their relationship with the IIHF if halfway through the tournament each team is losing players because their NHL teams demand that they come home. It wouldn't just be Canada, Yakupov and Grigorenko for Russia, Miller maybe Trouba form the US. It would be a disaster all around.

Best to make it a non-negotiable deal by cancelling games up until the end of the tourney.

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12-08-2012, 12:25 PM
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The NHL will do this purely for the WJC.

It would be an embarrassment, and would ruin their relationship with the IIHF if halfway through the tournament each team is losing players because their NHL teams demand that they come home. It wouldn't just be Canada, Yakupov and Grigorenko for Russia, Miller maybe Trouba form the US. It would be a disaster all around.

Best to make it a non-negotiable deal by cancelling games up until the end of the tourney.
I don't think the NHL cares at all about the IIHF. They have been threatening to pull out of the Olympics for years. And as a fan witnessing a third Bettman lockout, they don't care about us either, but that's a whole other topic.

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12-08-2012, 12:31 PM
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2 roster options

option 1 is what I think Team Canada will actually go with.
G) Malcom Subban
Jordan Binnington
Laurent Brossoit
D) Dougie Hamilton - Morgan Rielly
Xavier Ouellet - Scott Harrington
Griffen Reinhart - Ryan Murphy
Matt Dumba
F) Ty Rattie - RNH - Jonathan Huberdeau
Nathan MacKinnon - Ryan Strome - Brett Ritchie
Mark McNeill - Boone Jenner - Mark Scheifele
Francis Beauviller - Phillip Danault - Charles Hudon
Tom Wilson
I think Dumba makes it becaue they like guys who have played for Canada in past teams as a leader, even if he has struggled this year. Canada traditionally takes top 6 and bottom 6 and I think that will continue. Hudon has shown he is responsible in a checking role but can easily move up if their is an injury or someone is struggling. I dont think Wilson fits as well on the big Ice surface but Canada brass likely thinks different, and his big hits can set or change the tone of a game. There is always a suprise pick and I believe it will be Beauviller. They like his 2-way abaility and PK ability.

What I would do
G) Malcolm Subban
Laurent Brossoit
Jordan Binnington
D) Dougie hamilton - Morgan Rielly
Xavier Ouellet - Scott Harrington
Griffen Reinhart - Ryan Murphy
Ryan Sproul
F) Ty Rattie - RNH - Mark Scheifele
Jonathan Drouin - Nathan MacKinnon - Jonathan Huberdeau
Sean Monohan - Ryan Strome - Brett Ritchie
Phillip Danault - Boone Jenner - Charles Hudon
Daniel Catenacci
minor difference in goal but I think Subban is #1 and depending on who does better at camp will get the backup job between the 2, either way I am cool with. Personally I believe Sproul has earned his spot on this team and has been been better than Dumba, I would take the hot hand. So where the big change comes is on OFFENSE. I think on the big ice we need speed and scoring and I would have 3 lines that can do that. We struggled the las couple tournys and it is time to change that. I dont think you can go wrong with that as your first line. Mackinnon showed a connection with Huberdeau and Drouin and Mackinnon are so solid together you really cant split that up. Likewise with the connection between Ritchie and Strome this season should not be broken up. I had a tough time picking Monohan over a few others but in the end he is just to good not to have here. finally my last line is considerded the chhecking line I think Catenacci as the 13th has the intangibles to jump in wherever they need him.

I was upset Puempel didn't get an Invite, he would be perfect with Ritchie and Strome.

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12-08-2012, 12:33 PM
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The NHL will do this purely for the WJC.

It would be an embarrassment, and would ruin their relationship with the IIHF if halfway through the tournament each team is losing players because their NHL teams demand that they come home. It wouldn't just be Canada, Yakupov and Grigorenko for Russia, Miller maybe Trouba form the US. It would be a disaster all around.

Best to make it a non-negotiable deal by cancelling games up until the end of the tourney.
I wish the NHL would let prospects leave for the tournament even if they were playing games: WJHC > Regular season NHL

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12-08-2012, 01:07 PM
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option 1 is what I think Team Canada will actually go with.
G) Malcom Subban
Jordan Binnington
Laurent Brossoit
D) Dougie Hamilton - Morgan Rielly
Xavier Ouellet - Scott Harrington
Griffen Reinhart - Ryan Murphy
Matt Dumba
F) Ty Rattie - RNH - Jonathan Huberdeau
Nathan MacKinnon - Ryan Strome - Brett Ritchie
Mark McNeill - Boone Jenner - Mark Scheifele
Francis Beauviller - Phillip Danault - Charles Hudon
Tom Wilson
I think Dumba makes it becaue they like guys who have played for Canada in past teams as a leader, even if he has struggled this year. Canada traditionally takes top 6 and bottom 6 and I think that will continue. Hudon has shown he is responsible in a checking role but can easily move up if their is an injury or someone is struggling. I dont think Wilson fits as well on the big Ice surface but Canada brass likely thinks different, and his big hits can set or change the tone of a game. There is always a suprise pick and I believe it will be Beauviller. They like his 2-way abaility and PK ability.

What I would do
G) Malcolm Subban
Laurent Brossoit
Jordan Binnington
D) Dougie hamilton - Morgan Rielly
Xavier Ouellet - Scott Harrington
Griffen Reinhart - Ryan Murphy
Ryan Sproul
F) Ty Rattie - RNH - Mark Scheifele
Jonathan Drouin - Nathan MacKinnon - Jonathan Huberdeau
Sean Monohan - Ryan Strome - Brett Ritchie
Phillip Danault - Boone Jenner - Charles Hudon
Daniel Catenacci
minor difference in goal but I think Subban is #1 and depending on who does better at camp will get the backup job between the 2, either way I am cool with. Personally I believe Sproul has earned his spot on this team and has been been better than Dumba, I would take the hot hand. So where the big change comes is on OFFENSE. I think on the big ice we need speed and scoring and I would have 3 lines that can do that. We struggled the las couple tournys and it is time to change that. I dont think you can go wrong with that as your first line. Mackinnon showed a connection with Huberdeau and Drouin and Mackinnon are so solid together you really cant split that up. Likewise with the connection between Ritchie and Strome this season should not be broken up. I had a tough time picking Monohan over a few others but in the end he is just to good not to have here. finally my last line is considerded the chhecking line I think Catenacci as the 13th has the intangibles to jump in wherever they need him.

I was upset Puempel didn't get an Invite, he would be perfect with Ritchie and Strome.

Thoughts?
Agreed: Puempel is a beast and should've been there (though he is injured). Agreed that Subban should start, too.

Doesn't it make more sense to have Huberdeau at Centre and Mackinnon on the right side, rather than having two left-handed wingers?

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12-08-2012, 02:25 PM
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If the team is already in Russia, can some players get called back to NA to try out for their respective camps?

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Can some one please explain to me why Jake Paterson of Saginaw was invited and not Chris Dreidger? Some one please clue me in because I have no idea what was the thought there....

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Can some one please explain to me why Jake Paterson of Saginaw was invited and not Chris Dreidger? Some one please clue me in because I have no idea what was the thought there....
I'd like to know as well.

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One Change...You forgot Monahan...i dont know much about Catenacci except he is very fast???I like your D
Yeah I did leave him out by mistake. Put Monahan on the LW and take off Shinkaruk but Shinkaruk is a pure goal scorer. It's going to be tough on the coaches to select this team.

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Also no way scheifele plays third line rw. He's top line rw or second line center. It'll depend on who they'd rather play wing, Strome or Scheifele

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This is my final team.

Huberdeau - RNH - Rattie
Mackinnon - Strome - Scheifele
Shinkaruk - Jenner - Graovac
Wilson - Danault - Ritchie
Catenacci

Rielly - Hamilton
Harrington - Ouellette
Reinhart - Pelech
Murphy

Subban
Binnington
Broissoit



Me like alot

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I don't think the NHL cares at all about the IIHF. They have been threatening to pull out of the Olympics for years. And as a fan witnessing a third Bettman lockout, they don't care about us either, but that's a whole other topic.
Exactly my thoughts

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I don't think the NHL cares at all about the IIHF. They have been threatening to pull out of the Olympics for years. And as a fan witnessing a third Bettman lockout, they don't care about us either, but that's a whole other topic.
It's funny cause it's true.

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There's one reason why no team will pull their players back. That plane trip is brutal, the players will be angry, they'll be tired, they won't have an effective training camp.

After these players get on the plane, there's no chance they're coming back untill the end of the tournement.

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There's one reason why no team will pull their players back. That plane trip is brutal, the players will be angry, they'll be tired, they won't have an effective training camp.

After these players get on the plane, there's no chance they're coming back untill the end of the tournement.
This sounds right. There would be no upside to calling the players back mid-tournament.

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Can some one please explain to me why Jake Paterson of Saginaw was invited and not Chris Dreidger? Some one please clue me in because I have no idea what was the thought there....
In the last half of last season and the play-offs, Paterson was carrying Saginaw. He was stealing games for a pretty weak team.

His stats obviously don't look as good as Driedger's, but the kid is a really solid goalie.

Stylistically he might do better on the big ice too. Big guy who challenges shooters with solid angles and insanely good lateral movement vs. a big, economical blocking type of goalie.

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