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01-02-2013, 09:46 PM
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Did I miss something? Did he magically become NHL ready in a week?

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Did I miss something? Did he magically become NHL ready in a week?
He's on pace for 246 points if I were to attend every game

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He's on pace for 246 points if I were to attend every game
Dammit, where are this man's season tickets?!

Love Colborne, I think he's got a lot of potential that, with his size, could translate to the NHL within the next few years. He's a big, big guy, who still hasn't entirely filled into his frame. He's also young, still figuring things out while also battling some serious injury problems that derailed his awesome start last year. Hopefully a night with a few points is exactly what he needed to get some of his confidence back and we'll see some more of that offense show up for the rest of the season.

As for anyone bashing this thread, the OP is just asking what people think his status is when it comes to his readiness for the NHL, he's not suggesting that he's good to go right now. Nothing wrong with someone trying to get a second opinion about one of their favourite Leafs prospects on the Leafs forum.


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D’Amgio scores winner, Marlies roll over Bulldogs 6-0

After their win on boxing - day, it was only fitting that the Toronto Marlies and Hamilton Bulldogs would square off once again just one week later.Toronto has been dominant against the Bulldogs this season especially against a struggling Hamilton squad posting a record of 4-2-0-0 entering Wednesday’s game. The Marlies were also looking to pad their lead in the Western Conference.

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He's had a rough start to this year. Had 3 points tonight.

Needs to get some consistency and use his size better if he's going to make it in the bigs.

I think other players are closer than he is.
This is all I've heard since we got him. I think we need to accept the reality that he is what he is. You can't teach aggression.

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The Oiler's have some decent depth in the AHL, but aside from the usual players that should be in the NHL, there's a lack of offensive production. The marlies are getting alot more production from the defense aswell.

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01-02-2013, 10:22 PM
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I think we'll be able to judge Colborne better after this season in the AHL with more competition. Face it folks, there's no NHL this year. He has shown what he can do the past couple games.

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This is all I've heard since we got him. I think we need to accept the reality that he is what he is. You can't teach aggression.
Aggression is not the whole story. He's a big boy, you don't have to be aggressive to be strong on the puck and throw the body hard. I'm not asking for him to turn into Milan Lucic or anything.

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01-02-2013, 10:35 PM
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Aggression is not the whole story. He's a big boy, you don't have to be aggressive to be strong on the puck and throw the body hard. I'm not asking for him to turn into Milan Lucic or anything.
He's a perimeter player, rarely drives the net or goes to the dirty areas. I summed these things up with the word aggression, because it's the opposite of passive.

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Anyone else find it crazy that with all their talent, the Barons sit 6th in the conference with a 0.594 PCT?

The Marlies, without arguably our top talent (Kadri and Gardiner) lead our conference and have the 2nd most goals for in the AHL. The Oilers prospect pool is deep and full of league (AHL) leading point getters but OKC isn't as competitive as it should be IMO.

There's still plenty of season left, I think this years performance and last years Calder run are proving Burke is putting together a stronger development system than most teams.
RNH has played 19 games for 20 points.
Kadri has played 25 games for 25 points.

Barons have 1 player over 24 in their top 10 scoring.
Marlies have 5 players over 24 in their top 10 scoring.

Barons have 7 players on defense younger than 24.
Marlies have 2 players on defense younger than 24.

So RNH has missed more time than Kadri.
Barons have a younger core group of players.
Marlies have a mature defense.

OTOH Barons are using a 31 year old keeper, whereas the Marlies keepers are 25 and 26.

Just different approaches to the development teams.

Not saying one is right and one is wrong, but pointing out why one team might be doing better than the other.

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He's a perimeter player, rarely drives the net or goes to the dirty areas. I summed these things up with the word aggression, because it's the opposite of passive.
But is a perimeter player what you're looking for in a 6'5 centre-man at the NHL level?

We've got a team full of perimeter players.

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seems to be a confidence issue... i pray he can turn it around; he's got an AMAZING skill set with a massive body.

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seems to be a confidence issue... i pray he can turn it around; he's got an AMAZING skill set with a massive body.
At least he hasn't gone through the surgeries Antropov did at that age.

Antropov was more talented, but what could have been with some wheels.

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He's a perimeter player, rarely drives the net or goes to the dirty areas. I summed these things up with the word aggression, because it's the opposite of passive.
Pretty over-rated prospect. We got him for nothing so no big loss or anything. Plenty of other guys to look forward to other than him.

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Don't look now but Big Joe is heating up slowly, he seems to have found his groove after that benching and with the added minutes. He has 7 points in the last 8 games. 3 points last night with a goal and assist. He has the talent I just hope he can bring it out and prove us wrong that he isn't just a third line center prospect but a top six prospect. He definitely shown in the past he has the skill.

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Don't look now but Big Joe is heating up slowly, he seems to have found his groove after that benching and with the added minutes. He has 7 points in the last 8 games. 3 points last night with a goal and assist. He has the talent I just hope he can bring it out and prove us wrong that he isn't just a third line center prospect but a top six prospect. He definitely shown in the past he has the skill.
Most people. Some of us still have faith in our young gentle giant

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Most people. Some of us still have faith in our young gentle giant
Agreed I am still rooting for him for his sake and for ours as well

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Most people. Some of us still have faith in our young gentle giant
He's only a year older than MPS, and we still consider him a prospect with potential.

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seems to be a confidence issue... i pray he can turn it around; he's got an AMAZING skill set with a massive body.
He needs to add some size and power to his game, which I'm sure will result in added confidence. Have to be patient with this kid as the end result maybe worth the wait.

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He needs to add some size and power to his game, which I'm sure will result in added confidence. Have to be patient with this kid as the end result maybe worth the wait.
I remember Colborne talking about how difficult it is for him to put on weight because of his extremely high metabolism. I agree with the fact that we won't truly see him game evolve until he puts on some significant size/muscle and gains strength. I think we'll have to wait a couple more years for him to grow into his wirey frame, he's truly a project type prospect.

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RNH has played 19 games for 20 points.
Kadri has played 25 games for 25 points.

Barons have 1 player over 24 in their top 10 scoring.
Marlies have 5 players over 24 in their top 10 scoring.

Barons have 7 players on defense younger than 24.
Marlies have 2 players on defense younger than 24.

So RNH has missed more time than Kadri.
Barons have a younger core group of players.
Marlies have a mature defense.

OTOH Barons are using a 31 year old keeper, whereas the Marlies keepers are 25 and 26.

Just different approaches to the development teams.

Not saying one is right and one is wrong, but pointing out why one team might be doing better than the other.
The Barons are also relying very heavily on their PP. Without it, they aren't a playoff team.

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The Barons are also relying very heavily on their PP. Without it, they aren't a playoff team.
Definitely.

There was an article about the Oilers and they knew they'd have trouble on defense this year but they purposely did not load up on AHL veterans to give their kids more playing time.

It is a choice, and we won't know one way or the other which approach is correct until we see NHL results.

I'd easily take one NHL Cup over a two dozen Calder Cups.

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Definitely.

There was an article about the Oilers and they knew they'd have trouble on defense this year but they purposely did not load up on AHL veterans to give their kids more playing time.

It is a choice, and we won't know one way or the other which approach is correct until we see NHL results.

I'd easily take one NHL Cup over a two dozen Calder Cups.
Sure but I'd also rather have my prospects playing continuously in a winning environment and one that exposes them to playoffs. If having some vets allows that to happen then great. Just because you have vets doesn't mean you give your prospects few minutes. Last year's Calder run was mostly on the backs of the prospects, not the vets.

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Sure but I'd also rather have my prospects playing continuously in a winning environment and one that exposes them to playoffs. If having some vets allows that to happen then great. Just because you have vets doesn't mean you give your prospects few minutes. Last year's Calder run was mostly on the backs of the prospects, not the vets.
As I said, we don't evaluate the results based on AHL championship rings.

Let's see how both teams do in the NHL championships.

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We'll be able to judge him at the end of this year. I think if Dallas could talk to him and mabye find out what he could do to improve.

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