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12-08-2012, 06:09 PM
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gotcha.
Let's just hope it doesn't come to that... I have certainly felt like that at times being an employee that's for sure...

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Just talked to source. VERY high up. Based "occurrence last hour" he is 99.9% sure of 48 game NHL season starting on or around January 12th.



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How does that work? 6 v division is 24...2 vs the other teams in conference is 20...

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You can reach every number with some random east-west games.

But how can he be "sure" the season will start on Jan 12th. That would mean he'd know the deal gets done in late December. That doesn't make sense imo.

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12-08-2012, 07:08 PM
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You can reach every number with some random east-west games.

But how can he be "sure" the season will start on Jan 12th. That would mean he'd know the deal gets done in late December. That doesn't make sense imo.
Deal will be done before the players next paycheck which is the 13th, unless the owners squeeze one more out of them.

Fehr is on record as saying they are close, and I hate him, but like that tactic. When they meet again the public pressure is on the NHL to get a deal done.

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12-08-2012, 07:13 PM
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Hockey Buzz Eklund ‏@Eklund
Just talked to source. VERY high up. Based "occurrence last hour" he is 99.9% sure of 48 game NHL season starting on or around January 12th.



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Eklund?

Oh ****. It's official then, no hockey for us.

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Yeah I've been in your corner this whole time and wasn't worried until Bettman got his panties into a bunch....Is Bettman and the hardliners enough to be spiteful and let this thing run out?
Lou, with no drop dead date did you really think Don Fehr was going to say 'deal'

of course Bettman and company wanted to close out, smile, get games out there- maybe even before Christmas because they make great presents you know.

but aint happening

Fehr has had his balls busted for 2 months not that he didn't expect it, now he's got a little window as small as it is to make the league frown

as for Bettman and the hardliners- they got there 50% and grudgingly moved to 300 of the 393 million so the its now all about CERTAINTY in length of CBA and length of contracts

They'll get both- close to what they want

BTW what would those here do if they were Fehr/

I'd give the 50/50
I'd want all 393 make whole
I'd go 6 years on the Cap for contracts
I'd be ok with 8 years but ten seems a bit long

so what is Fehr supposed to do?

We don't like him but really I think other than his disengenious behaviour or coyness or whatever the other night, what the heck has he tried to negotiate any of us wouldn't have in the same job

also, all that worry about the cap coming down and we are losing Horton and others- is that not an issue anymore

I have not heard anything about the Cap being adjusted

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12-08-2012, 07:34 PM
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The Feds made them pay a hefty tax on those rings. They count as taxable income. If Jacobs gave them the money to pay the tax then that would also be taxed.

Understood.

Never opined that JJ "is behind it all." Just that he's a cheap, greedy turd who cares chiefly about himself, his family, and his money. I may have the order wrong.

Hope to spit in his face someday.

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12-08-2012, 07:52 PM
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You'd rather he gave them $100 rings so they'd be exempt from gift tax?
I'd rather not hear countless stories like this, some apocryphal, I'm sure.

I'd rather he weren't the owner of the Boston Bruins.

Bob Beers mentioned today on the SH that Ed Snider's Flyers are perceived league-wide to treat their players with respect & decency. Mike Illich is at the top of that list as well.

I can't speak to the present environment, but in the Sinden/OC era, if a player wanted to frame a jersey as a keepsake, he was made to pay for it. Complimentary buffet was anything but, & typically miserly.

I'll get off a dead horse, as, to mix metaphors, I'm finished flogging it. For now.

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12-08-2012, 08:25 PM
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Not surprising though...it seems like most writers live in lala land now.

Its a pretty easily looked up tax that anyone giving any sort of business related gift has to follow.

I guess it doesnt fit the script though and thats what is important in "journalism" now.
The best part about the whole thing was the "reporter" asked a player if this happened. You really think a player knows this off the top of their head let alone at all? Lol.

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Understood.

Never opined that JJ "is behind it all." Just that he's a cheap, greedy turd who cares chiefly about himself, his family, and his money. I may have the order wrong.

Hope to spit in his face someday.
You missed the point but that's ok.

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You can reach every number with some random east-west games.

But how can he be "sure" the season will start on Jan 12th. That would mean he'd know the deal gets done in late December. That doesn't make sense imo.
It's Eklund. Nothing he says ever makes sense.

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I'd rather not hear countless stories like this, some apocryphal, I'm sure.

I'd rather he weren't the owner of the Boston Bruins.

Bob Beers mentioned today on the SH that Ed Snider's Flyers are perceived league-wide to treat their players with respect & decency. Mike Illich is at the top of that list as well.

I can't speak to the present environment, but in the Sinden/OC era, if a player wanted to frame a jersey as a keepsake, he was made to pay for it. Complimentary buffet was anything but, & typically miserly.

I'll get off a dead horse, as, to mix metaphors, I'm finished flogging it. For now.
I'm willing to bet significant coin that Jeff Carter doesn't share that opinion.

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12-08-2012, 09:44 PM
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You missed the point but that's ok.
Sorry.

Figured you were calling me on the facts per Cup ring tax. Conceded same, & went on to vent.

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I'm willing to bet significant coin that Jeff Carter doesn't share that opinion.
Not a betting man; waste of coin. From what little I know, Columbus was the proper place for young Mr. Carter. In the end, matters worked out nicely for him, no?

One need not mistreat players, nor coddle them either.

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Eklund?

Oh ****. It's official then, no hockey for us.
Or it could mean 62 games starting the 24th, he could be equally wrong either way

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http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/87...ng-labor-talks

Very nice to hear some of the great things players are still doing even during the lockout...

Sounds like if they can get back together a deal should be able to be hammered out. Love the tactic the players are taking here..."We are very close"...thats all you hear... May or may not be true, but puts some pressure on the owners..

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Eklund?

Oh ****. It's official then, no hockey for us.
Have a bit of respect, that would be an (e5)

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Sorry.

Figured you were calling me on the facts per Cup ring tax. Conceded same, & went on to vent.
My bad. I thought you were trying to push the envelope a bit. No worries

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I'd rather not hear countless stories like this, some apocryphal, I'm sure.

I'd rather he weren't the owner of the Boston Bruins.

Bob Beers mentioned today on the SH that Ed Snider's Flyers are perceived league-wide to treat their players with respect & decency. Mike Illich is at the top of that list as well.

I can't speak to the present environment, but in the Sinden/OC era, if a player wanted to frame a jersey as a keepsake, he was made to pay for it. Complimentary buffet was anything but, & typically miserly.

I'll get off a dead horse, as, to mix metaphors, I'm finished flogging it. For now.
You do the English language justice.....I like you.

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Still think this guy ends up a Bruin one day...

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/ey...ogizes-to-fans

Nice to hear things like this over the Upshalls, Prusts and BizNasty's for the world... We have to remember that Kane I'm sure reps the majority...

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Still think this guy ends up a Bruin one day...

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/ey...ogizes-to-fans

Nice to hear things like this over the Upshalls, Prusts and BizNasty's for the world... We have to remember that Kane I'm sure reps the majority...
In 2 years when he's an UFA his buddy Seguin will convince him to come here and there will be Eiffel Towers all throughout Boston.

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In 2 years when he's an UFA his buddy Seguin will convince him to come here and there will be Eiffel Towers all throughout Boston.
One of em would score 50.

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One of em would score 50.
Yeah...and probably score alot of goals too

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Yeah...and probably score alot of goals too
Hahahahaha....

Seguin centering Kane and Marchand.... Good Lawd..... On and off the ice they would terrorize.

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Hahahahaha....

Seguin centering Kane and Marchand.... Good Lawd..... On and off the ice they would terrorize.
I'd get your daughter off the east coast for safety reasons Lou!

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