If Khokhlachev is coming back, I think Rychel still needs to make a sizable trade to then sell the post-deadline as a fresh start and demand re-dedication from whoever remains.
When I say sizable, I'm thinking four player for four player type trade.
It's amazing how the younger players are blamed for the losses and the big guns are given credit for the wins. Of course the 'guns' will be the ones scoring the goals - after all they get the majority of the icetime and all of the powerplay time. A good coach would know how to develop his talent ( and we have a lot of talent on this team ).
The biggest problem as you know is the fact that the owner has a son on the team and the coach feels he is the only player that has the ability to do anything, I agree stats are important, but more important is how you play the game. There are many others who could shine on this team but that will never happen under the current situation ( Rychel ). Anyone traded will only change the shuffle at the beginning and then back to the same old routine. If the plan was to rebuild, then they should be concerned with developing the young players - bringing Koko back just reinforces that all they care about is Kerby's draft.
Good luck with that! Scouts are seeing more negatives than positives. Just watch the game tapes and you'll see.
If Koko does come back they obviously need to make a trade to be competitive, of you think Koko will turn this team around your crazy, will he help? Of course but it will put us in 6/7 place at the very best, they need to make a statement trade... And personally I really think WR will only do 1 or 2 minor Tweeks and won't do anything dramatic, I really think no one wants to trade with him, he ****** himself when he payed off players and now other GM's know he's in tough and will not help him, and you know what's best about this team being 17th place in the league is that we dont have a first and we can't draft a good young player so good job spits management hope those two mem cups was worth 7 or 8 years of getting the **** kicked out of you.
If Koko does come back they obviously need to make a trade to be competitive, of you think Koko will turn this team around your crazy, will he help? Of course but it will put us in 6/7 place at the very best, they need to make a statement trade... And personally I really think WR will only do 1 or 2 minor Tweeks and won't do anything dramatic, I really think no one wants to trade with him, he ****** himself when he payed off players and now other GM's know he's in tough and will not help him, and you know what's best about this team being 17th place in the league is that we dont have a first and we can't draft a good young player so good job spits management hope those two mem cups was worth 7 or 8 years of getting the **** kicked out of you.
It was so worth it. As far as paying off players, look at how Portland was punished for what they did, it gives you a bit of indication how serious windsor's violations were. Portland was smacked harder than we were for crap like buying a cell phone for their captain. If they were punished so harshly for that, you have to figure that what Windsor did was even less serious, because of the much lower penalty. It wouldn't be paying off players like you suggest, if that were the case the punishment would have been worse than Portland's. Rychel probably took the team out for unauthorized ice cream after a game to be punished, not a cash payoff of a recruit.
It's amazing how the younger players are blamed for the losses and the big guns are given credit for the wins. Of course the 'guns' will be the ones scoring the goals - after all they get the majority of the icetime and all of the powerplay time. A good coach would know how to develop his talent ( and we have a lot of talent on this team ).
The biggest problem as you know is the fact that the owner has a son on the team and the coach feels he is the only player that has the ability to do anything, I agree stats are important, but more important is how you play the game. There are many others who could shine on this team but that will never happen under the current situation ( Rychel ). Anyone traded will only change the shuffle at the beginning and then back to the same old routine. If the plan was to rebuild, then they should be concerned with developing the young players - bringing Koko back just reinforces that all they care about is Kerby's draft.
Good luck with that! Scouts are seeing more negatives than positives. Just watch the game tapes and you'll see.
I'm no scout but other than putting up some points cherry picking I don't see Kerby doing much of anything positive very consistently.
The bigger problem is an organization that at times has not named a captain for extended periods of time slaps the C on the kid when Posa is out a couple games. No wonder this franchise top to bottom has lost its way.
It was so worth it. As far as paying off players, look at how Portland was punished for what they did, it gives you a bit of indication how serious windsor's violations were. Portland was smacked harder than we were for crap like buying a cell phone for their captain. If they were punished so harshly for that, you have to figure that what Windsor did was even less serious, because of the much lower penalty. It wouldn't be paying off players like you suggest, if that were the case the punishment would have been worse than Portland's. Rychel probably took the team out for unauthorized ice cream after a game to be punished, not a cash payoff of a recruit.
I totally agree jughead. Spits' fans are just right back to how it was, for the newer fans it might be hard to swallow but for those who frequented the old barn this is the norm of Spitfire hockey. Fighting for that last playoff spot annually. Those back to back Memorial Cup titles were a once and a life time bucket list thing. A great escape from reality never to be seen again.
I totally agree jughead. Spits' fans are just right back to how it was, for the newer fans it might be hard to swallow but for those who frequented the old barn this is the norm of Spitfire hockey. Fighting for that last playoff spot annually. Those back to back Memorial Cup titles were a once and a life time bucket list thing. A great escape from reality never to be seen again.
Starting to settle into that mode. Heck even when the Spits were bad in 06/07 they had players of value to deal like Weber, Guadagnolo etc.. This Spitfire team doesn't even have guys like that to deal or they actually do have guys like that Vail, Rychel etc.. but management views them as untouchables for some foolish reason.
I too agree it was worth it, and final 4 spot to boot,a rebuild year or 2 and its doom gloom,Plymouth has never won a cup, London has won a cup once in 12 under the Hunters,Spits twice in 7 including this year,and all of a sudden people forget how to coach and manage
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It was so worth it. As far as paying off players, look at how Portland was punished for what they did, it gives you a bit of indication how serious windsor's violations were. Portland was smacked harder than we were for crap like buying a cell phone for their captain. If they were punished so harshly for that, you have to figure that what Windsor did was even less serious, because of the much lower penalty. It wouldn't be paying off players like you suggest, if that were the case the punishment would have been worse than Portland's. Rychel probably took the team out for unauthorized ice cream after a game to be punished, not a cash payoff of a recruit.
Another game and another shelling, I know Plymouth has been slumping as of late but this should be a walk over game for them...and more then likely Dekort will get the start. I'm going to say 7-4 Whalers and that's being nice. Hope WR is having a fun time up in his press box watching this circus go on, I know I'm having a good laugh at how pathetic this team is.....
IMHO this was the best chance for us to win in the four games after the Christmas break mostly because it's the only home game. We are short players because of illness,injury,suspensions & players playing in tournaments. I know other teams are in the same boat but our back up players aren't as good as theirs. After the calling out of the team by Posa & the coach I expect a much better effort by the team, possibly a win by Pavelka.
As there are 6 or 7 games being played today you can bet your sweet *ss that WR will be in someone else's press box today. He knows what he has playing here. As for you having a good laugh at how pathetic this team is...to each his own...I find nothing to laugh at in this situation I've been a fan for a long time and silly me I'm hoping that by hook or by crook WR can find a way out of this mess in the next week or so, not just for this season but for for the next few....
I too agree it was worth it, and final 4 spot to boot,a rebuild year or 2 and its doom gloom,Plymouth has never won a cup, London has won a cup once in 12 under the Hunters,Spits twice in 7 including this year,and all of a sudden people forget how to coach and manage
I love ya Legend but you can't compare the two franchises right now. Even Rychel said he wants to be known as the best franchise in the OHL, being a bottom feeder for 2 years shouldn't be part of that plan. London has never had 2 years like this under Hunter ownership. If people haven't forgotten to manage and coach why are there these issues still? I understand to look at the glass half full but eventually you need to look at the results and the players on the ice. London is going to have 3 1st round NHL picks this year, Windsor may have 1 1st rounder maybe but only 2 NHL picks, London will probably have 2 others drafted in Elie and Patterson. If Plymouth has never won the cup why isn't Windsor dominating the west division? Over the past 12 years London has dominated the midwest division. I think it comes down to accountability and things aren't the way they were back 3-4 years ago. Guys like Henrique, Hall, Nemisz, Ellis and Cundari aren't walking through those doors anymore. Fact is for the past 2 years the Windsor Spitfires have not been relevant in the OHL and that's on everybody management, coaching and players. When is that going to change? Even you would admit they have been one of the biggest disappointments in the OHL this year.
Yeah Boughner after the game was blaming the younger guys for not developing that's where blaming others comes into play.
It's not the first time I didn't understand you, probably not the last
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hope those two mem cups was worth 7 or 8 years of getting the **** kicked out of you.
I drank from the Cup twice, partied with the boys in Rimouski and Brandon, met a TON of great people, saw half the country, had a helluva trip through the mid-west heading to Brandon, and have a few thousand pictures and videos that I look at every so often just for *****-n-giggles. I'd say it was DEFINITELY worth it!
If Khokhlachev is coming back, I think Rychel still needs to make a sizable trade to then sell the post-deadline as a fresh start and demand re-dedication from whoever remains.
When I say sizable, I'm thinking four player for four player type trade.
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I think something big is going to go down in Windsor before January 10, 2013 and at least a 3 or 4 player trade, to shake things up, as to where and who, that is the million dollar question? The only team who you can be sure will do absolutely nothing is the Knights, might as well give them the Memorial Cup today, can't remember in recent memory a team clicking like London is so consistently. Does anyone know what the OHL record for wins in a year is ?
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I think something big is going to go down in Windsor before January 10, 2013 and at least a 3 or 4 player trade, to shake things up, as to where and who, that is the million dollar question? The only team who you can be sure will do absolutely nothing is the Knights, might as well give them the Memorial Cup today, can't remember in recent memory a team clicking like London is so consistently. Does anyone know what the OHL record for wins in a year is ?
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I think something big is going to go down in Windsor before January 10, 2013 and at least a 3 or 4 player trade, to shake things up, as to where and who, that is the million dollar question? The only team who you can be sure will do absolutely nothing is the Knights, might as well give them the Memorial Cup today, can't remember in recent memory a team clicking like London is so consistently. Does anyone know what the OHL record for wins in a year is ?
Thanks and Happy New Year to you all !!!!
I wouldn't guarantee the Knights don't do anything at all. I see at least one trade made.
Per OHL website: (which I dont quite understand cuz technically wouldn't the Knights have the record with 59? must be something to do with shootouts/ties etc)
Most wins
54 Sault Ste Marie Greyhounds 1984-85 (66 games)
52 Kitchener Rangers 1983-84 (70 games)
Most points
London Knights 2004-2005 120points
(59-7-2 in 68 games)
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I think something big is going to go down in Windsor before January 10, 2013 and at least a 3 or 4 player trade, to shake things up, as to where and who, that is the million dollar question? The only team who you can be sure will do absolutely nothing is the Knights, might as well give them the Memorial Cup today, can't remember in recent memory a team clicking like London is so consistently. Does anyone know what the OHL record for wins in a year is ?
Thanks and Happy New Year to you all !!!!
Why is London guaranteed the Memorial Cup? I think a team like Halifax or Portland can give London a go. Heck London couldn't even beat the non qualifier for the cup last year in Shawinigan lost to them twice.
Why is London guaranteed the Memorial Cup? I think a team like Halifax or Portland can give London a go. Heck London couldn't even beat the non qualifier for the cup last year in Shawinigan lost to them twice.
I concur with your questioned assessment of this claim as well. This is why they play all the games. Anything can happen.
I think the landscape of a few teams is still yet to be decided as well. If an unsuspecting middle of the pack team bulks up with a few nice trades and goes on a run, you never know.
Although winning 25 in a row is nice it's certainly not the same of the Rangers in the 80's. Those were outright wins... not aided by shootouts. IMO this win streak gets an asteriks.
London does need to make a move or two. They could stand pat and still be a good but someone else goes out and gets the Monahan or Ceci's and that team becomes a much better team. London doesn't need much to match that which is a good place to be in plus there are a few bodies that can be dealt instead of picks.
London looks good so far, not going to lie. I would hardly think they are shoo ins for the cup as it stands however. There are quality clubs in the other leagues this year to be sure, and the landscape could be different after the deadline here in the O. Teams like Barrie, Owen Sound, Guelph, Kitchener, Belleville and Oshawa could give London a run for their money if they are aggressive at the deadline. In the playoffs weaknesses can be exposed, and London's situation in the net could be a weakness depending on how those guys perform under pressure. It's not like they are tested in any way, how would either of them react to letting in a bad goal at an unfortunate time in a playoff game? It might not be a problem, but it could be when guys like Subban and Binnington are in the opposing net. Having said all that, screw London. You guys are troll happy lately, a combination of your success and our failure this year no doubt. Beat it if that's all you're going to do, or at least come up with better material. Make fun of Taylor Hall's lips or something clever like that next time.
London looks good so far, not going to lie. I would hardly think they are shoo ins for the cup as it stands however. There are quality clubs in the other leagues this year to be sure, and the landscape could be different after the deadline here in the O. Teams like Barrie, Owen Sound, Guelph, Kitchener, Belleville and Oshawa could give London a run for their money if they are aggressive at the deadline. In the playoffs weaknesses can be exposed, and London's situation in the net could be a weakness depending on how those guys perform under pressure. It's not like they are tested in any way, how would either of them react to letting in a bad goal at an unfortunate time in a playoff game? It might not be a problem, but it could be when guys like Subban and Binnington are in the opposing net. Having said all that, screw London. You guys are troll happy lately, a combination of your success and our failure this year no doubt. Beat it if that's all you're going to do, or at least come up with better material. Make fun of Taylor Hall's lips or something clever like that next time.
Lol!!! Classic. Ok, I for one will stop feeling sorry for the Spits and its fans and leave you to your board to complain about your players and organization alike. Thanks for the laugh though!
And the first part of your post is exactly what I posted (a few posts ago) regarding no guarantees and that another team could creep up with solid moves. Come up with better stuff man, its almost as mind numbing as Jeff Kugel trying to say something bright (is that better?)
Lol!!! Classic. Ok, I for one will stop feeling sorry for the Spits and its fans and leave you to your board to complain about your players and organization alike. Thanks for the laugh though!
And the first part of your post is exactly what I posted (a few posts ago) regarding no guarantees and that another team could creep up with solid moves. Come up with better stuff man, its almost as mind numbing as Jeff Kugel trying to say something bright (is that better?)
sad part is looks like the spits look like they tuned out the coach ....bad year not make the playoffs ....no 1st rounder ,,
sad part is looks like the spits look like they tuned out the coach ....bad year not make the playoffs ....no 1st rounder ,,
On the bright side our 2nd round pick will be one pick earlier because of the sanctions. It's going to suck forfeiting what will likely be a top 10 pick, but we have to take our medicine I guess.
In my opinion we have only a few guys who should be untouchable, that would be Murphy, Vail, Rychel, Dekort, Sieloff, Ho Sang and the rest of this years draft class. After that there's a handful of guys like Clarke, Ebert, Posa, Pavelka, Lorentz and Johnson who I'd be willing to trade for a decent return but would be just as content keeping if the offers weren't good enough. Then there's a bunch of guys like Maletta, Marchese, Bateman, and Clark who just need to have their bags packed for them because they just aren't working out. As far as Koko goes, i'm reluctantly accepting the idea that we would probably benefit from trading him but I still hate the idea.
no Don't pick till 3rd round......here are the picks....
2013: 3rd, ERI 5th, KIT 6th (*), ERI 7th, 9th, SAR 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, SUD 13th, 14th, KGN 15th
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I think something big is going to go down in Windsor before January 10, 2013 and at least a 3 or 4 player trade, to shake things up, as to where and who, that is the million dollar question? The only team who you can be sure will do absolutely nothing is the Knights, might as well give them the Memorial Cup today, can't remember in recent memory a team clicking like London is so consistently. Does anyone know what the OHL record for wins in a year is ?
It's going to suck forfeiting what will likely be a top 10 pick, but we have to take our medicine I guess. 
