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According to Kypreous it was a first and a roster player (we don't know who that roster player was)...I want to say he was talking about Washington but can't say with 100% conviction.
Kadri has loads of skill and defense will come. He'll become a solid 2nd liner. Which is still really good but him being our future # 1 centre won't happen. He's an important player to have on a team. Your almost guaranteed a goal in the shootout with him on your team
According to Kypreous it was a first and a roster player (we don't know who that roster player was)...I want to say he was talking about Washington but can't say with 100% conviction.
Kadri has loads of skill and defense will come. He'll become a solid 2nd liner. Which is still really good but him being our future # 1 centre won't happen. He's an important player to have on a team. Your almost guaranteed a goal in the shootout with him on your team
More chances a guy like Joe colborne goes before Kadri IMO. If he is to move from our team, there has to be another player coming our way from maybe the canucks or from another organization.
Not really. The guy was a top draft pick from the OHL (along with the WHL, generally quickest transition to pro), and was a year older than most of the players in his draft class. He's now in his 3rd AHL season, and isn't even a point per game.
Of course he's close (18pts in 20 games), but that's basically zero development from where he was 2 years ago (41 pts in 44 games), while his goals-to-assists ratio has dropped substantially.
However, he is growing in all other aspects of the game. His defensive play isnt as sloppy (its not great yet but its much better than it was), his core strength, balance and strength on the puck has greatly improved, etc. etc. etc. The Leaf management knows his offensive capabilities, its everything else that is holding him back which has been the focus of his season.
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Originally Posted by KingCanadain1976
Well MacAurther plays rw and Kadri if im not mistaken plays lw or at least is playing that in the ahl. If im wrong i take my offer back. I can see him playing the rest of this year in the ahl with the monarches and learning the kings system of more defensive then hes used to now. The kings have a need maybe next year at lw on the second line if they dont resign penner or / gagne. I would be content with letting kadri fight it out with pearson for the spot should they not get a named free agent for it. .
Not really. The guy was a top draft pick from the OHL (along with the WHL, generally quickest transition to pro), and was a year older than most of the players in his draft class. He's now in his 3rd AHL season, and isn't even a point per game.
Of course he's close (18pts in 20 games), but that's basically zero development from where he was 2 years ago (41 pts in 44 games), while his goals-to-assists ratio has dropped substantially.
The draft class comparison is an interesting one. I'd suggest you look at the PPG of his peers from that class and then get back to me.
Also, you misunderstand why Kadri is in the AHL to begin with. The offense has never been the problem -- his strength and play away from the puck have. He's grown leaps and bounds there. Still hasn't put it together, but you shouldn't mistake his seasons in the AHL as the floundering of a struggling prospect. That's a remarkably shallow reading of his situation.
Does anyone know how many of Frattins goals Kadri got assists on. He only has 5 goals in 20 games and his improvement in stats seems to coincide with Frattin return/ hot start
burke wouldnt move kadri for a project. i dont feel like the leafs feel like he is a project or a bust either. its debatable whether or not he was handled poorly but i think kadri has tremendous upside.
i wouldnt say he is untouchable but for him to be moved i would think it would be as part of a package for something that will help us for years to come, not another roll of the dice so to speak.
the fact that it seems more likely that kadri becomes a winger at the nhl level is not a big deal. many many players were centers during their junior careers and wingers at the nhl level (kessel, jvr to name a few). the fact that the leafs have depth at wing does not mean that kadri cannot play on the third line at the nhl level either. many great young players started on the third line and worked their way up as they displaced older players.
realistically i think going into next season both kadri and frattin will be on the leafs.
I think this is part of the problem with Kadri there trying to make him play all postions and it hinder him in his developement. If they would leave him as one thing and let him play and gain the experience at said postion he would be alot better off. Just a outsiders opinion.
I think this is part of the problem with Kadri there trying to make him play all postions and it hinder him in his developement. If they would leave him as one thing and let him play and gain the experience at said postion he would be alot better off. Just a outsiders opinion.
Problem with Toronto is everyone is playing on random wings....
Natural LW
Kulemin
MacArthur
JVR
Kadri
Natural RW
Lupul
Kessel
Frattin
Last season top 6
LW - Lupul, MacArthur
RW - Kessel, Kulemin
Toronto bases their line-up on chemistry rather than position.
Last edited by The Podium: 12-07-2012 at 10:28 AM.
Problem with Toronto is everyone is playing on random wings....
Natural LW
Kulemin
MacArthur
JVR
Kadri
Frattin
Natural RW
Lupul
Kessel
Last season top 6
LW - Lupul, MacArthur
RW - Kessel, Kulemin
Toronto bases their line-up on chemistry rather than position.
In the team's defense, Lupul had a career year on LW as did Kulemin the year prior on RW. Also, I thought Frattin was a natural RW? That's what is says on his draft bio.
In the team's defense, Lupul had a career year on LW as did Kulemin the year prior on RW. Also, I thought Frattin was a natural RW? That's what is says on his draft bio.
I don't know about other Habs fans, but I would do Leblanc and a second for Kadri. Both players are from the 09 draft have had similar progress so far, Kadri is more offensively skilled then Leblanc but Leblanc is more of a solid 2-way player.
I don't see how it makes sense for Toronto to trade Kadri for Kipper. If there isn't a season, Toronto gets 1 year of a 37 year old Kiprusoff. If they could re-sign him for another 3 years at a very reasonable rate it might be okay. I still think Luongo is a better option as he is 3 years younger. Assuming both goalies are about equal skill wise, you're essentially paying a bit more for twice as many years of solid goaltending.
I don't see how it makes sense for Toronto to trade Kadri for Kipper. If there isn't a season, Toronto gets 1 year of a 37 year old Kiprusoff. If they could re-sign him for another 3 years at a very reasonable rate it might be okay. I still think Luongo is a better option as he is 3 years younger. Assuming both goalies are about equal skill wise, you're essentially paying a bit more for twice as many years of solid goaltending.
If it was only a "bit more" it wouldn't be a problem. But if Gillis' price tag is any indication....i'd say it would be a helluva lot more. And yes, Kipper would have 1 year left, but there is the option of resigning him for 2-3 more. That's better than 10 years more....no?
I don't really understand where all the Kadri hate comes from. He was drafted 3 years ago, has put up great numbers in the AHL and has been somewhat successful at the NHL level. Must be the curse of being a Leaf prospect. People expect too much from younger players these days.
I don't see how it makes sense for Toronto to trade Kadri for Kipper. If there isn't a season, Toronto gets 1 year of a 37 year old Kiprusoff. If they could re-sign him for another 3 years at a very reasonable rate it might be okay. I still think Luongo is a better option as he is 3 years younger. Assuming both goalies are about equal skill wise, you're essentially paying a bit more for twice as many years of solid goaltending.
4 or less years of Kipper > 10 years of being handcuffed to Lu's contract.
