I know this drives you crazy but it has worked for other teams. Byfuglien wasn't a top 6 forward before they put him there, for example.
The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over expecting a different result... time to change it up. If it doesn't work we make a deal at the deadline.
I know this drives you crazy but it has worked for other teams. Byfuglien wasn't a top 6 forward before they put him there, for example.
The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over expecting a different result... time to change it up. If it doesn't work we make a deal at the deadline.
It does drive me crazy. Kassian is struggling in the AHL, yet you want to put him on the top line in the NHL?
Why not sign Brock Lesnar and put him with the twins? He's even bigger than Kassian.
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It does drive me crazy. Kassian is struggling in the AHL, yet you want to put him on the top line in the NHL?
Why not sign Brock Lesnar and put him with the twins? He's even bigger than Kassian.
Look at how Dwight King did in LA when he was stuck on the 1st line.
Gillis payed a pretty penny for Kassian, so obviously he has something Gillis thinks would work for this team. Putting him with the Sedins gives him the best opportunity to develop into the player he can be. It's not always "Stay in the AHL until you're tearing it up". Give him a legit shot before you right him off.
Age is an issue, the contract isn't. I think the Carter and Richards deals speak to that.
Carter and Richards have 10 years left as well i agree. But they are not 33 years old. The contract as it stands is ok by me, but the new CBA may change that. To be honest, i'd like Luongo and have agreed to many proposals put forward by Nucks fans. But when proposals include our best center plus a potential lottery pick or our top line winger plus a potential lottery pick (and in some cases more) it becomes to costly. Alot of you either fail to see or fail to admit there is a big risk taking a soon to be 34 year old goalie that we will be entirely commited to for at least 5 years.
Top 5 elite goalie? Just curious and I am genuinely interested how people come to that conclusion without question? In the last 10 years he's been a top 5 twice for sure, but even going solely off save percentages less than half 4/10 years.
Are there any other stats I am missing for goalies only?
Carter and Richards have 10 years left as well i agree. But they are not 33 years old. The contract as it stands is ok by me, but the new CBA may change that. To be honest, i'd like Luongo and have agreed to many proposals put forward by Nucks fans. But when proposals include our best center plus a potential lottery pick or our top line winger plus a potential lottery pick (and in some cases more) it becomes to costly. Alot of you either fail to see or fail to admit there is a big risk taking a soon to be 34 year old goalie that we will be entirely commited to for at least 5 years.
"Best center" for a team with absolutely garbage at the center position.
You fail to see the lack of quality you continue keep coming back and offering up.
Top 5 elite goalie? Just curious and I am genuinely interested how people come to that conclusion without question? In the last 10 years he's been a top 5 twice for sure, but even going solely off save percentages less than half 4/10 years.
Are there any other stats I am missing for goalies only?
Top 5 elite goalie? Just curious and I am genuinely interested how people come to that conclusion without question? In the last 10 years he's been a top 5 twice for sure, but even going solely off save percentages less than half 4/10 years.
Are there any other stats I am missing for goalies only?
It is often dangerous to drag out stats without any context. His play in Florida was stellar on a bottom feeder. In Vancouver, he has routinely started slowly then been great. Wins still count I think. And the Canucks do not play a game that caters to a goalie's stats. (except of course in his first year here when we were pretty snoozy and lacking in talent.) We were picked to finish 13-15, we won the division on goaltending.
Now go find me 4 goalies with those numbers over a decade.
That's the thing, it'll be easy to cherry pick stats year to year and find guys that were better. But over a decade? Nope. 3 Vezina finalists, a Hart and a Pearson finalist. And that pesky Jennings.
And our backup goalie didn't choke in the playoffs like Lundqvist did
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That's the thing, it'll be easy to cherry pick stats year to year and find guys that were better. But over a decade? Nope. 3 Vezina finalists, a Hart and a Pearson finalist. And that pesky Jennings.
I'll take the lack of a response to my question as marty111 admitting that his form of analysis is flawwed. Saying Luongo isn't a top 5 goalie because his stats have falling in that range at a similar frequency as Henrik Lundqvist is absurd.
Top 5 elite goalie? Just curious and I am genuinely interested how people come to that conclusion without question? In the last 10 years he's been a top 5 twice for sure, but even going solely off save percentages less than half 4/10 years.
Are there any other stats I am missing for goalies only?
As many have pointed out, you add in the number of goalies who have been consistant in their play and it changes everything. Goalies have hot years (Miller, Ward, Raycroft) but only the best stay solid for a long period of time.
As many have pointed out, you add in the number of goalies who have been consistant in their play and it changes everything. Goalies have hot years (Miller, Ward, Raycroft) but only the best stay solid for a long period of time.
Ryan Miller has had his SVP in the top 5 only once in his entire career. Cam Ward has never been in the top 5.
