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01-27-2013, 03:04 PM
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Maybe it's for the all star game. Holland was selected, I think.
Judging from the site for it he was deemed unavailable for it on the 23rd when a bunch of other players were added. So i doubt they would let him play.

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01-27-2013, 03:16 PM
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We need a right-handed shooting d-man up here so badly. If I were to venture a guess I'd say Vatanen is on his way. We need him on the power play. Now. I can't stand Getzy playing the point on the power play. Let Vatanen slot in there and put Getzy back down by the half-wall where he belongs.
I agree about the PP but if Vatanen plays who out of Allen/Souray/Lydman/Sbisa/Beauchemin sits? Fowler is the only guy who has separated himself from the pack on the blueline so far this season.

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01-27-2013, 04:00 PM
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Not liking Holland being sent down...

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01-27-2013, 04:04 PM
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01-27-2013, 04:09 PM
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PeterHolland13: Nothing like a good ol fashion flight delay to rub salt in the wound #AreWeThereYet
ouch. ya he didn't deserve that by management. especially with the fact that DSP is still up there.. ugh

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01-27-2013, 04:41 PM
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I don't agree with this move. Holland never got a real chance.

Since he really didn't play himself out of the lineup you have to wonder just what the coaches are thinking. Why did they bother keeping Holland out of camp if they weren't going to give him a chance? Has Rakell been that impressive to commit keeping him up all year? I'm just not that keen on rushing guys that young when their contributions to the team are quite marginal. This is a rerun of last year's DSP move.

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01-27-2013, 05:03 PM
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I agree about the PP but if Vatanen plays who out of Allen/Souray/Lydman/Sbisa/Beauchemin sits? Fowler is the only guy who has separated himself from the pack on the blueline so far this season.
Sbisa.

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01-27-2013, 05:04 PM
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I'm pretty bummed out about Holland getting the shaft like that. He deserved a much better shot at it than that. Rakell hasn't been that good - he's just been alright. Don't know if he deserves to stay up over Holland.

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01-27-2013, 05:07 PM
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Obviously Rakell will play the next two games, but it'll be interesting to see what happens next weekend when the 5 game period is up. It's just weird because Holland won't even play until next Friday. Not fair at all to him.

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01-27-2013, 05:28 PM
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Helene Elliott ‏@helenenothelen
Ducks recall Emerson Etem and Sami Vatanen from Norfolk, assign Peter Holland and Jordan Hendry to Norfolk.

You're welcome Ducksgo

Etem callup is surprising

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01-27-2013, 05:30 PM
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I do not support that move at all.

I hope it works out though

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01-27-2013, 05:33 PM
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So...where's Etem gonna play? Could see Vatanen replace Souray though.

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01-27-2013, 05:35 PM
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So...where's Etem gonna play? Could see Vatanen replace Souray though.
Yeah, I've got no clue. The forward swap makes no sense at all to me.

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01-27-2013, 06:08 PM
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Ducks recall Emerson Etem and Sami Vatanen from Norfolk, assign Peter Holland and Jordan Hendry to Norfolk.
WTF?

Why would they bring up two more young guys who need to play a lot for their development? I can't see either winning regular spots.

Souray and Allen haven't been impressive but their size says Sami isn't replacing them. And Sbisa has started like crap but he is way more proven than Sami.

Etem just doesn't seem like he is far enough along to help on offense. Is BM looking to pull the trigger on a Perry deal?

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01-27-2013, 06:52 PM
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WTF?

Why would they bring up two more young guys who need to play a lot for their development? I can't see either winning regular spots.

Souray and Allen haven't been impressive but their size says Sami isn't replacing them. And Sbisa has started like crap but he is way more proven than Sami.

Etem just doesn't seem like he is far enough along to help on offense. Is BM looking to pull the trigger on a Perry deal?
Agreed. I don't really get it. I absolutely get that Vatanen will help the PP but is his PP ability alone enough to warrant scratching one of the vets?

As for Etem - he's a good enough all around player to be an NHLer but as you said his offense isn't far along yet and he's better off developing it in the minors for now. They better not put him in the top 6/9 at the expense of Palmieri which is what I'm fearing.

Edit: Changed to fearing not hearing.


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01-27-2013, 06:55 PM
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wow. ducks management is making me go WTF right now... bring up vatanen and etem for what purpose.. vatanen doesn't seem ready for the NHL ice in terms of his defensive ability. we dont need more liabilities on defense right now.. especially considering the next game is against the sharks who is lighting EVERYONE up right now...
and etem.. why? where the room for him in our top 9.. or are we putting him on the 4th line.. ugh this makes 0 sense..

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01-27-2013, 07:04 PM
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Agreed. I don't really get it. I absolutely get that Vatanen will help the PP but is his PP ability alone enough to warrant scratching one of the vets?

As for Etem - he's a good enough all around player to be an NHLer but as you said his offense isn't far along yet and he's better off developing it in the minors for now. They better not put him in the top 6/9 at the expense of Palmieri which is what I'm hearing.
Care to elaborate?

Find it hard to believe that suddenly they would deem Etem a better fit on top 6/9 instead of Palmieri when camp was barely 10 days ago.

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Care to elaborate?

Find it hard to believe that suddenly they would deem Etem a better fit on top 6/9 instead of Palmieri when camp was barely 10 days ago.
Ah meant to say fearing, not hearing. Will Edit that - just a gut feeling based on Palmieri getting shafted in the last game.

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01-27-2013, 07:24 PM
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Ah meant to say fearing, not hearing. Will Edit that - just a gut feeling based on Palmieri getting shafted in the last game.
I agree that was unnecessary.

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01-27-2013, 07:36 PM
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To everyone saying Holland never got a fair chance - yes he did, in practices. The coaches clearly felt he wasn't the best man for the job.

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01-27-2013, 09:12 PM
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Funny thing is since Etem is called up it opens a spot in the AHL All star game, so i guess Holland gets it back. Not sure if that has anything to do with it.

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To everyone saying Holland never got a fair chance - yes he did, in practices. The coaches clearly felt he wasn't the best man for the job.
These are the same guys playing Smith-Pelley after a garbage AHL and training camp stint so...


Seems like they are trying to find a 4th line winger. DSP has been bad, Staubitz may as well leave his stick on the bench when he plays, now Etem is getting a look. Vatanen though? That's just strange, unless they want to try a 7 dman approach, rotate 4th line RW, plug Sammi into the PP and select soft comp shifts.

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01-27-2013, 09:37 PM
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He's hurt I believe

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01-27-2013, 10:29 PM
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Holland got screwed over, barely a chance to cement an NHL spot.

Vatanen called up to be the #7 defenceman? Etem called up to get 8 minutes a night on the 4th line?

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