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02-24-2013, 02:48 PM
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Halifax beat Acadie-Bathurst 11-3 and Frk finished with 2+2.. but -2. Was on ice for every GA.

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02-24-2013, 03:01 PM
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Halifax beat Acadie-Bathurst 11-3 and Frk finished with 2+2.. but -2. Was on ice for every GA.
Shades of Lebda.

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02-24-2013, 03:23 PM
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Ouellet, Sproul, Järnkrok, Marchenko

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Halifax beat Acadie-Bathurst 11-3 and Frk finished with 2+2.. but -2. Was on ice for every GA.
Lol, yeah .. but at least he's +27.

He's been on a tear since November really ... 17 goals and 16 assists since coming back from the world juniors, and had two typical Marty goals today, using his bomb from the slot ... I don't believe goalies see it, they guess lol, haven't seen a shot like that come through the Q in my life.

His skating has also improved. He didn't have much time to work on it/get it back to what it was with his concussion in 2011 ... But his strides are more "powerful" compared to his rookie season ... Not great, but he's getting better and it's not a glaring issue like it was previously ...IMO.

But he also had a hat-trick on Wednesday, so all is good.


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02-24-2013, 10:59 PM
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It'll be interesting to compare Frk and Pulkkinen. They seem so similar. Who will be the better of the poor skating wingers with rocket shots? Frk appears to bring a nasty/dirty element whereas Pulkkinen has some quality playmaking ability.

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02-24-2013, 11:07 PM
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It'll be interesting to compare Frk and Pulkkinen. They seem so similar. Who will be the better of the poor skating wingers with rocket shots? Frk appears to bring a nasty/dirty element whereas Pulkkinen has some quality playmaking ability.
It'll be a very interesting story line to watch in GR next year.

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02-25-2013, 01:49 AM
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It'll be interesting to compare Frk and Pulkkinen. They seem so similar. Who will be the better of the poor skating wingers with rocket shots? Frk appears to bring a nasty/dirty element whereas Pulkkinen has some quality playmaking ability.
Well Frk's shot is much better than Pulkkinen's for starters and Pulkkinen is a much better playmaker. The only real similarities are poor skating wingers with injury concerns

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02-25-2013, 02:49 AM
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What's the latest on Alexei Marchenko anyway? Is he still hurt? Has he been playing?

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02-25-2013, 03:24 AM
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Lol, yeah .. but at least he's +27.

He's been on a tear since November really ... 17 goals and 16 assists since coming back from the world juniors, and had two typical Marty goals today, using his bomb from the slot ... I don't believe goalies see it, they guess lol, haven't seen a shot like that come through the Q in my life.

His skating has also improved. He didn't have much time to work on it/get it back to what it was with his concussion in 2011 ... But his strides are more "powerful" compared to his rookie season ... Not great, but he's getting better and it's not a glaring issue like it was previously ...IMO.

But he also had a hat-trick on Wednesday, so all is good.
Thanks! Very informative post. It's nice to get accounts from people who actually watch the prospects instead of just guessing based on stats, etc.

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It'll be interesting to compare Frk and Pulkkinen. They seem so similar. Who will be the better of the poor skating wingers with rocket shots? Frk appears to bring a nasty/dirty element whereas Pulkkinen has some quality playmaking ability.
Frk definitely plays a more physical game. I want to see more games before judging his skating though. Don't get to watch a lot of junior hockey (playoffs from time to time).

Pulkkinen's skating wasn't that awful when I last saw him. And he was better than Hudler in that respect. If Hudler can make it in the NHL...

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02-25-2013, 04:33 AM
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What's the latest on Alexei Marchenko anyway? Is he still hurt? Has he been playing?
haven't seen any games, but he has been playing in playoff series vs lev. but he has been playing only a few minutes per game (6:16 vs 12:56 in regular season). based on game sheets, CSKA has been using 8 d-men. they added danny markov, shaone morrisonn and igor ozhiganov late in the season.

marchenko played 44 of 52 games in regular season, and has played all 3 playoff games so far (CSKA leads 3-0).

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02-26-2013, 03:04 PM
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Jarnkrok 1+1, +2. Assisted to tie the game with 30 or so seconds left. I thought he was one of the better players on the ice. Lost 3-4 in OT though while AIK won their game so there's only three points between the teams now with three games left to play, including a h2h.

Backman was -3, has to be a season low. Team lost 2-6.

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02-26-2013, 03:15 PM
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Backman was -3, has to be a season low. Team lost 2-6.
Yeah, that might be the worst game report I've ever seen for him.

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02-26-2013, 09:44 PM
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Yeah, that might be the worst game report I've ever seen for him.
It should be noted that one of the goals was an empty netter.
Here's the highlights: http://www.elitserienplay.se/#/video.2191408130001
Bäckman is no.5 in blue, on the ice for the last 3goals.

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02-26-2013, 11:50 PM
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Is the plan to have Tvrdon, Pulkkinen, Jarnkrok, Sproul, Oulette, Marchenko, etc, all in Grand Rapids next year? Team could be sick to watch.

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Is the plan to have Tvrdon, Pulkkinen, Jarnkrok, Sproul, Oulette, Marchenko, etc, all in Grand Rapids next year? Team could be sick to watch.
agreed, I think we are finally going to see what the this generation of prospects really have to offer. The last one has a touch of top bottom 6 talent, and a touch of top 6 talent. (Helm, Abby,Mursak, Nyquist) but has really helped with the move from consistent contender to fringe playoff team. So far this generation looks to be one that improves the team and could bring it back to that Contender status, with more top 6 talent than bottom 6 and the bottom 6 being good fringe 2nd line as well (Sheahan). but with Tatar, Pulks, Jarnkrok, Ouellet, Marchenko, Sproul, Backman, ummm... Mrazek, you see my point. There is a lot of high ceilings in this group of prospects.
Its kind of crazy to think that Grand rapids could win the Calder cup this year then be better next year, keep in mind Jurco will also be more accustomed to the A, Mrazek will be another year better, barring Howie not getting resigned. The team is only going to lose Nyquist, Tatar, Lashoff, and maybe possibly Sheahan, plus random AHL vets.

Hoggan - Jarnkrok - Jurco
Ferraro -Sheahan - Pulkkinen
Tvrdon - Aubry - Frk
Callahan -Quine - Glendening
Grant

Almquist- Marchenko
Ouellet- Sproul
Skinner- Billins

Mrazek
McCollum

Now tell me that after 20 games or so that all those defensive parings aren't great, and that the top two lines could both be number ones, (ie. like Z or D's lines are like 1A, 1B) and that the 3rd line would be a competent 2nd line on some AHL teams each forward line has people who have spent good time in the AHL and a talented rookie who hopefully doesn't Jurco out and really underplay themselves.


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02-27-2013, 01:17 AM
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You are missing Frk and Tvrdon is not C.

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You are missing Frk and Tvrdon is not C.
the C's were Jarnkrok, Sheahan, Aubry, and Quine.

good point on Frk I honestly dont know what line to put him on. 3rd make the most sense I guess you move Glendening to the 4th line and make Grant your extra Forward.

that 3rd line would be pretty big so that's a plus

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the C's were Jarnkrok, Sheahan, Aubry, and Quine.

good point on Frk I honestly dont know what line to put him on. 3rd make the most sense I guess you move Glendening to the 4th line and make Grant your extra Forward.

that 3rd line would be pretty big so that's a plus
I guess we could get rid of Hoggan. No need for him to take IT from kids.

I think Jensen could also sign. Nedolmel too, but I think he's starting in ECHL.

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02-27-2013, 05:48 AM
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I guess we could get rid of Hoggan. No need for him to take IT from kids.
Why not keep Hoggan? You sign veterans on the bench and let the kids play. When the 1st injury comes, there's Jeff Hoggan ready and fresh to jump in.

Kid - Kid - Kid
Kid - Kid - Kid
Kid - Kid - Kid
Kid - Kid - Kid
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Kid - Kid
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This would my basic idea for farm system. Few vets there as leading example, and they would not have free walk to roster. Only if some kid in unavailable to play.

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02-27-2013, 05:59 AM
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Is the plan to have Tvrdon, Pulkkinen, Jarnkrok, Sproul, Oulette, Marchenko, etc, all in Grand Rapids next year? Team could be sick to watch.
Don't know about Tvrdon. Is there any update about his health/recovery?

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02-27-2013, 08:22 AM
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This would my basic idea for farm system. Few vets there as leading example, and they would not have free walk to roster. Only if some kid in unavailable to play.
The farm is mainly to entertain the prospects who has a real possibility to be NHL players and give them a good environment to develop in. If a prospect can't beat out a veteran for a depth role in the AHL, it is what it is, with some exceptions. There's a lot more upside than downside with veterans in the lineup.

Paetsch can learn the puckmovers a thing or two, Evans can learn the shutdown guys a thing or two, Hoggan can learn the two-way forwards a thing or two, and I'm sure Grant has learned Callahan a thing or two. They give you leadership, they show the young guys how to take care of yourself outside the ice, and you get a better team overall. Assuming you sign the right veterans of course. Doesn't need to be more than 4 or 5.

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Yeah, that might be the worst game report I've ever seen for him.
Strangely enough (based on the numbers, not his effort) he was selected as Linköping's best player in that game.

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Strangely enough (based on the numbers, not his effort) he was selected as Linköping's best player in that game.
Well that's good to know. Perhaps their goalie pulled a McCollum.

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Quick question regarding Jarnkrok, depending on when his team is done in the SEL this season, can he make the trip overseas to finish the season/playoffs with the Griffin's or as an extra forward with the Wings (assuming we make playoffs)? Also would it be beneficial for him to do this if possible?

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Well Frk's shot is much better than Pulkkinen's for starters and Pulkkinen is a much better playmaker. The only real similarities are poor skating wingers with injury concerns
I know the "Holy Slapper" doesn't get the press it used to- but Pulkkinen has a world-class shot. I'd agree that Frk has a quicker/better wind-up but they've gotta be close in raw velocity. I will give you that Frk has an almost freakish ability to get his shot off and surprise the goalie- if Pulkkinen could speed it up so his shot wasn't as telegraphed he'd be deadly.

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