I get the feeling that whether or not Sproul makes the team depends on whether the coach gets to play favorites or the rest of his staff basically vetos him.
Based on this week's games I don't think Dumba should be on the team. But of course it's not all based on this week. If Dumba doesn't make it, Sproul has a chance I guess.
They both go really. Although I agree with a lot of people that Murphy will be on the team.
Do you guys think that the fact Sweden and Finland are bringing young but very talented forwards, and Sweden's success last year doing so, made Canada soften a bit towards bringing both Mac and Drouin? Meet talent with talent.
Yeah well Chad had that up before he even tweeted that.
I guess Mark Edwards knows the OHL guys and Sproul quite well (personally?) and got the info first. I have no inside info whatsoever
I'm not really dissapointed in Sproul being cut since didn't expect him to make it. But it will be cool to see Ouellet first in Finland for an exhibition game and then in Ufa. For once the games aren't on in the middle of the night over here.
Do you guys think that the fact Sweden and Finland are bringing young but very talented forwards, and Sweden's success last year doing so, made Canada soften a bit towards bringing both Mac and Drouin? Meet talent with talent.
I think both guys are pretty special players, but more than that I think it actually points to Canada's options this year. I just don't think they had the normal amount of talent to keep the younger guys down. Think about it without the lockout they would have been almost locks coming in. Plus they didn't bring as typical a big and mean team, seems they think the big ice will allow for some younger guys. Also, some of the older guys have discipline problems and that likely cost a couple of them.
^ Totally agree with the rise of Ferraro. Disagree with Mrazek so high(way too early to put a goalie up there), and the D's are too low in general compared to how I have guys ranked.
^ Totally agree with the rise of Ferraro. Disagree with Mrazek so high(way too early to put a goalie up there), and the D's are too low in general compared to how I have guys ranked.
There is a lot of shift in the system in my opinion even over the last couple of months since we did the off-season prospect poll. Could be interesting to do another after the WJC's in the new year as a midpoint for the year. I think both Sproul and Ouellet have moved up my board quite a bit.
Also Jensen dropping doesn't make a ton of sense to me. He is having another good year and he wanted to turn pro after last year, so I just don't see him playing his senior year.
“He’s probably the best prospect in our organization overall,” said Red Wings director of player development Jiri Fischer. “Whenever he makes the transition overseas, he’s going to be really exciting to watch at the NHL level.”
It further solidifies that Jarnkrok will play immediately in the big leagues once he skips over to North America. Is he two years away (14-15 season) or maybe even next year?
Matt has liked Sproul more since pretty much day one. His potential is probably higher, but I disagree with it whenever I see him put in front of him. Ouellet is a more polished guy for sure part of the reason one is heading home and the other is going to Russia.
“He’s probably the best prospect in our organization overall,” said Red Wings director of player development Jiri Fischer. “Whenever he makes the transition overseas, he’s going to be really exciting to watch at the NHL level.”
It further solidifies that Jarnkrok will play immediately in the big leagues once he skips over to North America. Is he two years away (14-15 season) or maybe even next year?
Imo he's going over next fall. But if he struggles out of the gate I see no reason why his first season couldn't be between Grand Rapids and Detroit. Odds are he sticks on a bottom line at worst, but if not I see no big deal in it. He can't stay another year in Sweden, he's already proved/proving everything he needs here.
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There is a lot of shift in the system in my opinion even over the last couple of months since we did the off-season prospect poll. Could be interesting to do another after the WJC's in the new year as a midpoint for the year. I think both Sproul and Ouellet have moved up my board quite a bit.
Also Jensen dropping doesn't make a ton of sense to me. He is having another good year and he wanted to turn pro after last year, so I just don't see him playing his senior year.
I've changed view on a few guys for sure. Best part is it's mostly due to guys rising and not guys falling aswell.
Imo he's going over next fall. But if he struggles out of the gate I see no reason why his first season couldn't be between Grand Rapids and Detroit. Odds are he sticks on a bottom line at worst, but if not I see no big deal in it. He can't stay another year in Sweden, he's already proved/proving everything he needs here.
I will be disappointed if they leave him over there for any reason. He needs to be in NA next season, the only thing I think that could change that is if they draft his cousin. Even then I would still want Jarnkrok in North America.
Matt has liked Sproul more since pretty much day one. His potential is probably higher, but I disagree with it whenever I see him put in front of him. Ouellet is a more polished guy for sure part of the reason one is heading home and the other is going to Russia.
I can't help but salivate at even a poor man's version of Weber/Suter with these two. What's funny, is Ouellet is actually the more likely to fight of the two, but Sproul might just need to keep growing into his now 6'4 frame before becoming a real physical force.
Backman and Marchenko still intrigue me, and I would not be shocked if one of them became the best of the bunch - Smith included.
You have to be excited with the current crop of D prospects, from top to bottom (where there is size and nastiness).
if there's no season that's really gonna hurt Jarnkrok's chances at sticking in the NHL next year I think
I think the Wings would be a lot less reluctant to give Jarnkrok a real chance if Nyquist and Smith had been able to get full NHL seasons in this year(and Tatar likely a bunch of games as well with various injuries)
instead now they may feel like having Jarnkrok in there too next year would just be too much inexperienced youth to have in the lineup at the same time
I can't help but salivate at even a poor man's version of Weber/Suter with these two. What's funny, is Ouellet is actually the more likely to fight of the two, but Sproul might just need to keep growing into his now 6'4 frame before becoming a real physical force.
Backman and Marchenko still intrigue me, and I would not be shocked if one of them became the best of the bunch - Smith included.
You have to be excited with the current crop of D prospects, from top to bottom (where there is size and nastiness).
I dont think they play all that much like Suter and Weber. Sprouls got the booming shot but thats about it to compare him to Weber. Ouellet I guess is sound positionally like Suter but hes also got a booming shot, will drop the gloves and play a bit physical.
Not to mention those guys are like 2 of the top 5 d in the league so I really hate seeing people set the bar that high
I dont think they play all that much like Suter and Weber. Sprouls got the booming shot but thats about it to compare him to Weber. Ouellet I guess is sound positionally like Suter but hes also got a booming shot, will drop the gloves and play a bit physical.
Not to mention those guys are like 2 of the top 5 d in the league so I really hate seeing people set the bar that high
I prefer Burns and Vlasic still a high bar, but my feeling is they both play closer to them really. I hope Sproul isn't the turnover machine that Burns is and I doubt even as high as I am on XO he can be as perfect with his decisions as Vlasic. He is better offensively than Vlasic and certainly has a bigger shot, but their positioning and how mature they play really reminds me of each other, Vlasic is one of the best in the entire league in his own zone, I don't know that he gets all the way there. There are flaws with any name, no players turn out exactly the same, but if I had to name two players that would be the two I would select. Oddly enough they play for the same team like the Nashville guys did.
