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12-11-2012, 01:32 AM
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Bill Ranford

How good was he in his primetime? What were his strengths and weaknesses? I remember him having an ultra quick glove hand and awkward stance. But he was very good in stopping the puck.

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How good was he in his primetime? What were his strengths and weaknesses? I remember him having an ultra quick glove hand and awkward stance. But he was very good in stopping the puck.
He was one of the last true standup goalies and yes, he had a lightning glove hand.
An Alan Bester like glove but he had a lot more tools than poor Alan.
When Billy was on, he was almost unbeatable but when he was off...oh boy, was he off.
A lot like Mike Ritcher, there wasn't a whole lot of middle ground with either of them. They were either very good/great or they were very bad/horrible.

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He was one of the last true standup goalies and yes, he had a lightning glove hand.
An Alan Bester like glove but he had a lot more tools than poor Alan.
When Billy was on, he was almost unbeatable but when he was off...oh boy, was he off.
A lot like Mike Ritcher, there wasn't a whole lot of middle ground with either of them. They were either very good/great or they were very bad/horrible.
What you said is all true.

I'll just add that poor Alan Bester was a much better goaltender than he gets credit for... playing behind the Leafs of that time would make anyone look bad.

Ranford basically has a peak of one amazing year. Kind of like Hextall.

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Ranford is safely behind Richter tho as Richter had more quality performances. Ranford were often shot at and places high in that regard yet only has one top-10 in SV%. One hit wonder.

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How good was he in his primetime? What were his strengths and weaknesses? I remember him having an ultra quick glove hand and awkward stance. But he was very good in stopping the puck.
aside from his good playoff run in 89-90, there isnt much to get excited about with bill ranford.

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Ranford is safely behind Richter tho as Richter had more quality performances. Ranford were often shot at and places high in that regard yet only has one top-10 in SV%. One hit wonder.
I wasn't comparing the two career-wise, just in how neither of them had a lot of middle ground in their play.
Ritcher was obviously "on" a lot more than Ranford over the years.

And I wouldn't call Ranford a "one hit wonder". He led a pretty average Oiler team back to the Conf final in '92, was Canada's starting goalie in the '91 Canada Cup and led Canada to their first gold in over 30 years at the Worlds in '94.
He was a decent goalie overall.

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Not sure why Bester is mentioned in the same breath as Ranford.

Bester was 5-7 and Ranford just shy of 6 foot and that 4inches for a goalie is a lot. Bester also got lost in his own net and got easily confused

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Not sure why Bester is mentioned in the same breath as Ranford.

Bester was 5-7 and Ranford just shy of 6 foot and that 4inches for a goalie is a lot. Bester also got lost in his own net and got easily confused
Just for glove hands.

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aside from his good playoff run in 89-90, there isnt much to get excited about with bill ranford.
That's pretty harsh.

There were a couple years there where one could make the case for Ranford as the best goalie in the world. A Stanley Cup, Conn Smythe, and a Canada Cup MVP is an impressive resume. Maybe not HHOF worthy, but impressive by most measures.

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Well, Mike Keenan had more or less the entire NHL to choose from in picking the Canada Cup team in 1991. They chose Ranford and he was the tournament MVP. So he has that high peak along with the 1990 postseason. Not bad at all and if we did a thread 20 years ago we would all agree he is a future HHOFer. But he just didn't have the staying power. He was more or less finished by the time he was 30 years old. He did good with the Oilers, even when they had a bad team, but he just couldn't maintain that level of greatness.

Fun to watch though. A little like Tim Thomas where he could make some acrobatic saves.

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Ranford was briefly a top 5-8 goalie in the league from roughly 1990-92.

After that, he went quickly downhill and spent most of the rest of his career as one of the worst goalies in the league, living off the reputation from his 1990 playoff run and 1991 Canada Cup.

Was bloody terrible for years in Edmonton but the excuse was always 'oh, his numbers are terrible because of the team in front of him'. When the Oilers replaced him with CuJo, it quickly became obvious that his numbers were terrible because he was a washed-up sieve.

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