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Zdeno Chara hit Miro Satan ... your opinion?

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12-11-2012, 03:06 PM
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first hit is a little late, but it seems to be close to the net shenanigans,

As for the 2nd hit, there is nothing wrong there. To those that think it is dirty, what could chara have done to make it not dirty?
I would agree about the first, looks kinda late, but not vicious. Though looks like the video kinda slows down, so may not be as late as it looks (which isn't much).

Second, yeah there is head contact but... Chara's shoulders are just that high, it would be very awkward for him to hit shoulder to shoulder.

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12-11-2012, 03:20 PM
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First one looked a bit late to me. Chara could easily of let up or avoided.

Second one was a clean beautiful hit.

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12-11-2012, 03:39 PM
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Might have thought it was a canuck!

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12-11-2012, 05:40 PM
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The second hit probably did the damage, but it was legal. The first hit could've been roughing or interference if you really wanted to split hairs.

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Don't see anything wrong with it...Surprised that injured him.
Why? He skated head first into a 6'9 tank of a human being.

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12-11-2012, 05:47 PM
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The first one, is a joke of a hit. The second hit though, he did make first contact with his shoulder to the head, although I don't think it was targeted. Also, Miro did a nice sell job when he let his feet continue to go into the air after the hit and he was down. I think that given those two circumstances, it was a clean hit resulting in no injury and a littl bit of embellishment as well.

(Coming from a Bruins and Chara fan)

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12-11-2012, 08:03 PM
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I think it's hits like the second one where the term "size matters" fully applies.
At least there were no stanchions involved this time.

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12-11-2012, 08:13 PM
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First one: suspect (at best). Second one: clean.

As said previously, Chara could have made the first hit waaay worse. I just find the "but he's 6'9" argument weak. Height shouldn't be an issue. He should be aware and in control of his body.

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12-11-2012, 08:22 PM
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The second hit is fine. Good, clean, big hit. Head wasn't targeted, and the entire body was impacted. Nothing wrong with that in hockey.

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12-11-2012, 10:34 PM
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Then I guess 5'8" to 6'5" should be the range allowed.

Listen, guys. I'm not actually arguing this. If you believe that Chara shouldn't be blamed because he's tall, then you should take this into consideration. If you don't use that argument, then forget about this maximum height nonsense I bring up.
Chara's allowed to make a hockey play. He shouldn't have to play non-contact just because he's 6'9".

I am against the short people lobby. Tall people have a right to hit too! Short people throw hits and everyone's but a tall guy hits someone and everyone is .

(Cue Randy Newman.)

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12-11-2012, 11:31 PM
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Both hits were fine it was just the size difference really makes those hits.Nothing dirty about them. Satan should know better. Chara's a big guy and he can manhandle people or hit really hard if he wants to but he chooses not to. Most opposing players have said that about him. Chara manhandling someone literally:

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12-11-2012, 11:46 PM
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At first, I thought the second hit was just fine. I now rewiewed it a couple of times and it seems like Chara could`ve hit him cleanly but choose to use more power by raising through the hit! Just look at the hit a few times slow motion - he actually looks targeting Satans head...

At 1.20-1.30 in OP

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12-12-2012, 12:02 AM
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Absolutely nothing wrong with either hit. Miroslav is being a wuss. His Infernal father would be unimpressed.

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12-12-2012, 07:46 AM
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Chara's shoulder goes straight into Satan's face but only because of his height, for 95% of other players its shoulder on shoulder. Chara didn't target the head either, he just stands his ground.

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12-12-2012, 08:53 AM
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ignore the size difference for a moment and just look at chara himself. on the second hit he does nothing but get in the way and brace for impact. no elbow, no jumping, he didn't reach out in any way to make the hit. satan's head is not out of line with his body, so there is not reason to believe a hit to the head was intentional. both players were moving north-south. i think this should be the criteria for judging the legality or how clean the hit was.

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12-12-2012, 09:13 AM
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Chara's shoulder goes straight into Satan's face but only because of his height, for 95% of other players its shoulder on shoulder. Chara didn't target the head either, he just stands his ground.


Just look at stills 1.20 and 1.21 - He does NOT stand his ground! He checks the head. If he "stands his ground", there is no "checking towards the head"-movement involved...

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12-12-2012, 10:54 AM
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Just look at stills 1.20 and 1.21 - He does NOT stand his ground! He checks the head. If he "stands his ground", there is no "checking towards the head"-movement involved...
the position he is in before is not one that people would normally be in when checking someone. he straightens up for impact purposes. it's normal.

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12-12-2012, 12:44 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with the hit. Only reason he hit Satan in the head is because Satan was slightly crouched and Chara was upright and is a lot taller than Satan.
Pronger physics come through again.

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12-12-2012, 12:51 PM
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That second hit was beautiful, and textbook perfect.

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12-12-2012, 01:15 PM
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Satan is being a baby. Both hits are clean. That second hit, especially, is a beauty.

Keep your head up, baby.

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12-12-2012, 02:46 PM
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Two clean hits, Satan needs to keep his head up.

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12-12-2012, 06:38 PM
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second hit was perfect, but even if the first one was clean, it was a totally unnecessary and avoidable hit.

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12-12-2012, 06:40 PM
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Both looked fine to me.

That's what happens when you play against guys who are 6'9 tanks though, injuries will occur.

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12-12-2012, 06:57 PM
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As much as I'd love to b*tch about Chara and say that was dirty, I'm forced to admit both of these hits were perfectly legal and clean. I don't know what's wrong with Satan. I even believe he might have let up the second one a little bit.

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12-12-2012, 09:28 PM
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Satan is nearing 50 and is mad that his career is over.

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12-12-2012, 10:37 PM
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Shoulder to head. There isn't much to discuss here. Consider the injury Chara should have a suspension.
why should they ever consider the injury?

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