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12-11-2012, 01:13 AM
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Easy no from the Oilers. Yakupov is far more valuable than anything else in the deal. Gardiner is good but it'd take a lot more value to get Yakupov. I don't even know if I'd do Yakupov -> Rielly + Gardiner

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12-11-2012, 08:07 AM
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I don't know why such a silly trade would be proposed. If you want Yakupov, why not offer the trade we are all thinking of, and one the Oilers would probably accept?

Gardiner, Rielly for Yakupov.

Easy.

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12-11-2012, 10:08 AM
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I don't know why such a silly trade would be proposed. If you want Yakupov, why not offer the trade we are all thinking of, and one the Oilers would probably accept?

Gardiner, Rielly for Yakupov.

Easy.
Well the Leafs wouldn't accept that, so we're back to square one.

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12-11-2012, 10:35 AM
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There is no trade from Toronto that would acquire Yakupov, unless it included Rielly +. It's as simple as that. No knock on Gardiner or any of the Leafs other players, but they aren't in the same talent/potential spectrum. Edmonton isn't looking for a quality for quantity trade, they already have plenty of mid range prospects in the organization. Besides, the addition of Schultz seems to have filled a major hole for Edmonton. They aren't as desperate as they were for a top 4 dman, who can move the puck. Don't get me wrong, Gardiner would be great to add to the Oiler's Dcore, but not at the expense of Yakupov.

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12-11-2012, 11:57 AM
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Toronto would have to way overpay for a winger which we don't need. And that package doesn't get us Yakupov anyways plus we take an aging goaltender with problems and a bust D-man. No thank you.
This pretty well sums up the reality of the situation.

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12-11-2012, 12:30 PM
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And in 3 to 4 years when yakupov has semin value Toronto gets screwed

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12-11-2012, 12:55 PM
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I'd do it as a Leafs fan, only because I'm confident that Rielly would make up for the loss of Gardiner.

Kulemin - Grabovski - Yakupov would be fun to watch.

Oilers probably don't do it though.
probably? no chance in hell the Oil do this.

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12-11-2012, 01:02 PM
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I don't know why such a silly trade would be proposed. If you want Yakupov, why not offer the trade we are all thinking of, and one the Oilers would probably accept?

Gardiner, Rielly for Yakupov.

Easy.
Only deal i would consider would be something like Gardiner + JVR/Kulemin for Khabi + Yakupov. If thats a no go, then both teams walk away.

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12-11-2012, 01:13 PM
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Only deal i would consider would be something like Gardiner + JVR/Kulemin for Khabi + Yakupov. If thats a no go, then both teams walk away.
Oilers easily walk away from that as well.

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Only deal i would consider would be something like Gardiner + JVR/Kulemin for Khabi + Yakupov. If thats a no go, then both teams walk away.
if the Leafs want our top prospect, Yakupov, it would cost the Leafs top prospect, Reilly. Leaf fans don't seem to want to do this, so why do you think the Oilers would do this?

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if the Leafs want our top prospect, Yakupov, it would cost the Leafs top prospect, Reilly. Leaf fans don't seem to want to do this, so why do you think the Oilers would do this?
I would be fine Giving up Rielly+, the + just isn't Gardiner. We need one of the two to be our top pairing PMD/PP QB.

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if the Leafs want our top prospect, Yakupov, it would cost the Leafs top prospect, Reilly. Leaf fans don't seem to want to do this, so why do you think the Oilers would do this?
I would never expect the Oilers to make that deal. I just felt like participating in the thread. Really no teams are going to trade their top prospects unless the player coming in is a guaranteed improvement. Lateral prospect moves are rare.

No dice

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12-11-2012, 04:36 PM
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There is next to no chance Yakupov gets traded.

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12-11-2012, 04:44 PM
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As an Oil fan, if Toronto added their 1st for 2013 I would take it.

Reimer is a great goaltender that happens to be in a market with very little patience. Look at the LA situation with Quick/Bernier. Competition drives results. Dubnyk has already won the starter role and I am certain he isn't worried about Khabi taking it from him.

And if we added Gardiner, we could trade off Whitney as a rental to a team like Detroit.

Teubert is borderline 3rd pairing at best. no real loss there.
This would make much more sense . Get something for Whitney and hopefully grab a good #2 center in this draft and some physical bottom 6 guys

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12-11-2012, 04:48 PM
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I would never expect the Oilers to make that deal. I just felt like participating in the thread. Really no teams are going to trade their top prospects unless the player coming in is a guaranteed improvement. Lateral prospect moves are rare.

No dice
lateral in talent maybe, but we'd get a much needed potential #1 d-man, and the Leafs would get a potential star forward.

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12-11-2012, 05:16 PM
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U can't trade a first pick overall for depth, imagine if Yakupov reach his full potential.

Steven Stamkos vs Gardiner, Reimer and Percy ?

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12-11-2012, 05:20 PM
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This deal makes no sense for Toronto or Edmonton. Toronto and Edmonton aren't good trading partners, as both lack centre depth and goaltending depth while having good winger and defense depth...


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12-11-2012, 05:59 PM
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Never mind that the trade would never happen... And I think the OP may have suggested a trade that makes both teams worse. That's pretty special.

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12-11-2012, 09:14 PM
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U can't trade a first pick overall for depth, imagine if Yakupov reach his full potential.

Steven Stamkos vs Gardiner, Reimer and Percy ?
(insert Lindros trade reference)

but yes...I guess I agree with the Yakupov valuations..

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12-11-2012, 11:54 PM
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Percy >>> Teubert (Teubert is pretty atrocious, even in the AHL).
The rest greatly favours Edmonton though, so it's a definite no from me unless something of value is added from a Leafs standpoint.
Teubert has been solid for the Barons. I think you just made that up.

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12-12-2012, 12:06 AM
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Teubert has been solid for the Barons. I think you just made that up.
LOL no. He can't pass nor shoot worth ****. In fact, every time he tries to make a pass, it results in a turnover. He hasn't even been good in the D-zone.

Plus, he never stops taking boneheaded penalties that end up costing the Barons a goal... I don't know what you see in him that makes him look "solid."
I know he was solid last year but just like the rest of the D-corps, Teubert has regressed immensely this year.

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12-12-2012, 01:40 AM
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LOL no. He can't pass nor shoot worth ****. In fact, every time he tries to make a pass, it results in a turnover.
Um... Teubert is NOT an offensive defenseman. That'd be like judging Ovechkin based on how well he does on the PK. Teubert is out there to play some gritty shutdown defense, and go ******* on Bulmer from time to time

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12-12-2012, 01:59 AM
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Um... Teubert is NOT an offensive defenseman. That'd be like judging Ovechkin based on how well he does on the PK. Teubert is out there to play some gritty shutdown defense, and go ******* on Bulmer from time to time
Tuebert play hasn't been the greatest, but he has stood up and laid the law down with opposing players that have tried to take runs at the Baron players. If anything his play has improved recently. The Oilers need what Teubert brings and he's still young for a gritty stay at home D.

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12-12-2012, 02:37 AM
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Um... Teubert is NOT an offensive defenseman. That'd be like judging Ovechkin based on how well he does on the PK. Teubert is out there to play some gritty shutdown defense, and go ******* on Bulmer from time to time
LOL good job completely ignoring the rest of my post. And if you don't mind a D-man who turns the puck over every time he has the chance, well then, I guess I feel sorry for you...

He'd be a liability more than anything at the NHL level.

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i read the first page and im surprised to see "o jake gardiner and shultz played together in college blah blah blah".

i dont know if i do this for the leafs, soley because a scoring winger is already here in phil kessel were looking to acquire someone more like RNH (sorry to affend any oiler fans not trying to stir up anything) because he is a center. also to the guy who says reimer is bad, percy was picked 25th overall and gardiner isn't proven enough man i lold so hard at that. to good, gardiner is real good, he is very fast north south just has to work on his agility more.

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