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04-01-2015, 01:53 PM
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ISS April 2015 ranking

Rank Player Position Team League
1 McDavid, Connor C Erie OHL
2 Eichel, Jack C Boston University H.E.
3 Strome, Dylan C Erie OHL
4 Hanifin, Noah LD Boston College H.E.
5 Crouse, Lawson LW Kingston OHL
6 Marner, Michell C London OHL
7 Rantanen, Mikko RW TPS Turku FinE
8 Barzal, Mathew C Seattle WHL
9 Provorov, Ivan LD Brandon WHL
10 Zacha, Pavel C Sarnia OHL
11 Werenski, Zach RD Michigan BigTen
12 Konecny, Travis C Ottawa OHL
13 Connor, Kyle C Youngstown USHL
14 Bittner, Paul LW Portland WHL
15 Meier, Timo RW Halifax QMJHL
16 Svechnikov, Evgeny RW Cape Breton QMJHL
17 Greenway, Jordan LW USA Under-18 NTDP USHL
18 Merkley, Nick C Kelowna WHL
19 Chabot, Thomas LD Saint John QMJHL
20 Zboril, Jakub LD Saint John QMJHL
21 Carlo, Brandon RD Tri-City WHL
22 Ek Eriksson, Joel C Farjestad SweJE
23 White, Colin RW USA Under-18 NTDP USHL
24 Kylington, Oliver RD Farjestad SweJE
25 Harkins, Jansen C/LW Prince George WHL
26 Larsson, Jacob LD Frolunda SweJE
27 Bracco, Jeremy RW USA Under-18 NTDP USHL
28 Senyshyn, Zachary RW S.S. Marie OHL
29 Roy, Jeremy RD Sherbrooke QMJHL
30 Carlsson, Gabriel LD Linkoping SweJE

http://www.isshockey.com/iss-top-30/

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04-01-2015, 01:55 PM
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That 10 to 20 range is really good as well. Would love to see the Leafs get another pick in that range and grab a player like Bittner or Konecny

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I hope NHL clubs take the top 5 seriously. Would love for Marner to fall to the devils. Can't believe he's behind Crouse still lol.

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Crouse continues to be way too high..
Bittner top 15?
Greenway in the 1st round?
Senyshyn as well?

Jeremy Roy continues to be rated pretty low relative to skill level.

I'd probably bump Greenway and Senyshyn out of the top 30 and bump up Boeser and Novak.

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04-01-2015, 02:02 PM
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Jeremy Roy is the Rodney Dangerfield of this draft.

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Offensive wizard is ranked behind a 6'3 two-way player who projects to be a 3rd liner. Size over skill as always.


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At least THEY have Hanifin a good bit above the next defenseman.

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Rank Player Position Team League
1 McDavid, Connor C Erie OHL 10C
2 Eichel, Jack C Boston University H.E. 9.5B
3 Strome, Dylan C Erie OHL 8.5B
4 Hanifin, Noah LD Boston College H.E. 9.0C
5 Crouse, Lawson LW Kingston OHL 8.0C
6 Marner, Michell C London OHL 9.0C
7 Rantanen, Mikko RW TPS Turku FinE
8 Barzal, Mathew C Seattle WHL
9 Provorov, Ivan LD Brandon WHL
10 Zacha, Pavel C Sarnia OHL
11 Werenski, Zach RD Michigan BigTen
12 Konecny, Travis C Ottawa OHL
13 Connor, Kyle C Youngstown USHL
14 Bittner, Paul LW Portland WHL
15 Meier, Timo RW Halifax QMJHL
16 Svechnikov, Evgeny RW Cape Breton QMJHL
17 Greenway, Jordan LW USA Under-18 NTDP USHL
18 Merkley, Nick C Kelowna WHL
19 Chabot, Thomas LD Saint John QMJHL
20 Zboril, Jakub LD Saint John QMJHL
21 Carlo, Brandon RD Tri-City WHL
22 Ek Eriksson, Joel C Farjestad SweJE
23 White, Colin RW USA Under-18 NTDP USHL
24 Kylington, Oliver RD Farjestad SweJE
25 Harkins, Jansen C/LW Prince George WHL
26 Larsson, Jacob LD Frolunda SweJE
27 Bracco, Jeremy RW USA Under-18 NTDP USHL
28 Senyshyn, Zachary RW S.S. Marie OHL
29 Roy, Jeremy RD Sherbrooke QMJHL
30 Carlsson, Gabriel LD Linkoping SweJE

http://www.isshockey.com/iss-top-30/
Gave a prospect ranking for the top few. Anyone else want to take a shot at those?

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Crouse continues to be way too high..
Bittner top 15?
Greenway in the 1st round?
Senyshyn as well?

Jeremy Roy continues to be rated pretty low relative to skill level.

I'd probably bump Greenway and Senyshyn out of the top 30 and bump up Boeser and Novak.
Crouse = 6'4 212lbs
Bittner = 6'4 202lbs
Greenway = 6'5 223lbs
Senyshyn = 6'2 194lbs

Maybe ISS just likes size?

Crouse over Marner is crazy IMO.

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Re-arranged to my liking.


Rank Player Position Team League
1 McDavid, Connor C Erie OHL
2 Eichel, Jack C Boston University H.E.
3 Hanifin, Noah LD Boston College H.E.
4 Rantanen, Mikko RW TPS Turku FinE
5 Provorov, Ivan LD Brandon WHL
6 Marner, Michell C London OHL
6 Strome, Dylan C Erie OHL
8 Barzal, Mathew C Seattle WHL
9 Werenski, Zach RD Michigan BigTen
10 Kylington, Oliver RD Farjestad SweJE
11 Connor, Kyle C Youngstown USHL
12 Crouse, Lawson LW Kingston OHL
13 Chabot, Thomas LD Saint John QMJHL
14 Konecny, Travis C Ottawa OHL
15 Meier, Timo RW Halifax QMJHL
16 Zacha, Pavel C Sarnia OHL
17 Merkley, Nick C Kelowna WHL
18 Zboril, Jakub LD Saint John QMJHL
19 Carlo, Brandon RD Tri-City WHL
20 Greenway, Jordan LW USA Under-18 NTDP USHL
21 Bittner, Paul LW Portland WHL
22 (Daniel Sprong)
23 Svechnikov, Evgeny RW Cape Breton QMJHL
24 Roy, Jeremy RD Sherbrooke QMJHL
25 White, Colin RW USA Under-18 NTDP USHL
26 (Noah Juulsen)
27 Harkins, Jansen C/LW Prince George WHL
28 (Ryan Pilon)
29 (Jake Debrusk)
30 (Filip Chlapik)


Outside my top 30:
Ek Eriksson, Joel C Farjestad SweJE
Bracco, Jeremy RW USA Under-18 NTDP USHL
Larsson, Jacob LD Frolunda SweJE
Senyshyn, Zachary RW S.S. Marie OHL
Carlsson, Gabriel LD Linkoping SweJE

http://www.isshockey.com/iss-top-30/

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Jeremy Roy is the Rodney Dangerfield of this draft.
I hope he falls to our Tampa pick.

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At least ISS no longer has Crouse 3rd. Progress!

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Just saying, that maybe seeing multiple sources with Crouse top 10/top 5 is a sign that the scouts might know something from multiple viewings that the average fan does not.

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Sprong outside the first round ?

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Why is Crouse ranked ahead of Rantanen everywhere? Rantanen is a better skater and has better offensive skills..

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Just saying, that maybe seeing multiple sources with Crouse top 10/top 5 is a sign that the scouts might know something from multiple viewings that the average fan does not.
Crouse has been ranked Top-5 since making TC at the WJC. They had him at 10-15 before that.

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Offensive wizard is ranked behind a 6'3 two-way player who projects to be a 3rd liner. Size over skill as always.

Well this is the eternal conundrum... lets say your at 2014 draft and theres Nylander and Ritchie available... you say we gotto take William his got higher upside and how can we pass on him.. next year you go to the draft and theres Crouse and Marner on board.. how can you again pass on Marner for 6'4 dummie.. so then you have 2 small midgets and you say to yourself "next year will get the big guys".. and then next year comes and you repeat. So then you end up with team like Edmonton Oilers with top six small one dimensional guys and the next small playmaking wizard will make the team contender. No. Sometimes you gotto look past skill and go for the meat.

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how on Earth is Greenway ahead of Boeser, Novak, and Fischer????

I get the size factor, but he hasn't done much with it...Boeser on the other hand tore up the USHL and belongs top 25 well before Greenway...

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Well this is the eternal conundrum... lets say your at 2014 draft and theres Nylander and Ritchie available... you say we gotto take William his got higher upside and how can we pass on him.. next year you go to the draft and theres Crouse and Marner on board.. how can you again pass on Marner for 6'4 dummie.. so then you have 2 small midgets and you say to yourself "next year will get the big guys".. and then next year comes and you repeat. So then you end up with team like Edmonton Oilers with top six small one dimensional guys and the next small playmaking wizard will make the team contender. No. Sometimes you gotto look past skill and go for the meat.
Adding Benoit Pouliot really seemed to change things for the Oilers

Size is readily available in the free agent market compared to highly skilled guys like Patrick Kane, Johnny Gaudreau, and Mitch Marner. Marner may not reach that level, but the same risk lies with a guy like Crouse. If he ends up a 3rd liner, he's not going to change the course of a team like the Oilers.

In addition to the above, smaller skilled player are not inherently more one dimensional than bigger, less skilled players. Pavel Datsyuk is a small skilled guy and is one of the best rounded players in the world. And big James Neal is completely 1 dimensional.

You can't assume that Marner is more one dimensional than Crouse based on size. IMO the exact opposite is true.

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Is Crouse over Marner an April Fools' Day joke?

Crouse anywhere in the top ten is a joke. I would be pissed if my team selected him.

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Crouse = 6'4 212lbs
Bittner = 6'4 202lbs
Greenway = 6'5 223lbs
Senyshyn = 6'2 194lbs

Maybe ISS just likes size?

Crouse over Marner is crazy IMO.
Came here to post this. These ISS guys seem to have a hard on for size. Just look at the list. I'm just surprised they bothered to include Bracco in the top30. At least they dropped Crouse from #3 to #5 but they still have him ahead of Marner. Laughable.

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It's hilarious how many people are upset about Crouse being so high. Marner is playing great no doubt but Crouse has 3 points in 3 playoff games, 15 in 11 games with Bennett in the line-up this season. There's some stats, but on ice he's physical, shoots the puck really well, skates great for his size, physical all the time, very good all-around player. It's not about who's the better junior hockey player it's about who becomes the better player at the NHL level. Crouse does all the things a pro player should be able to do, win puck battles, score goals, hit, play well defensively. Crouse would fit so well in LA and everyone says they wish they were like LA, well look at how LA is built. They are big but more importantly they win the puck battles, play tenaciously and hit.

I'm not a scout but I think Crouse might be the more effective player in the NHL because of all the tools he brings.

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If I'm going to bump a guy up a few sports because of his size, it would be Zacha I'd be doing it for, not Crouse.

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Not that I'm crazy about him as a prospect, but it would be hilarious if Crouse ended up the best player in this draft class.

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