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Dustin Byfuglien to the Islanders

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01-15-2016, 08:29 AM
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Dustin Byfuglien to the Islanders

Pardon me if this has been discussed before.

What is Winnipeg looking for for Dustin?

I believe he could be a fit for the Islanders at the deadline.

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Would be perfect.

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Really depends on the health of Boychuck and Hamonic. Can Buff play Left D?

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I don't really want him that bad. I'd take him, but I wouldn't target him.

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Depends on how long buff is out. Injury looked bad yesterday

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Depends on how long buff is out. Injury looked bad yesterday
Puts the Jets in a rough spot.

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Really depends on the health of Boychuck and Hamonic. Can Buff play Left D?
I agree. I don't see the Isles as a landing place for Buff unless Boychuck or Hamonic are out long-term, and even then it depends on how much the Isles feel that they want to be buyers to try a deep playoff run this season. I suppose they will want to be buyers one of these years while Tavares is in his prime, and now that they've moved to Brooklyn (to enhance their following in NYC). There will be other suitors in the East that might be more seriously interested in Buff. I wonder if the Isles might actually be more interested in Ladd for a playoff run this season. He's behind his scoring pace from previous years (has been playing with young players to boost the 3rd line recently), but is still 26th in scoring among LW (only 2 points less than Rick Nash). He's got leadership and Stanley Cup experience.

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Depends on how long buff is out. Injury looked bad yesterday
Coach Maurice said Buff was traveling with the Jets for the game today with the Wild, which suggests that the injury isn't too serious or long-term.

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Hamonic and a 1st? Hamonic and a forward? Tough to gauge the return on Buff, feel like they could get a lot for him though.

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Buff would be an awesome add, but I don't see Garth trading major assets for him, nor do I think the Isles would be interested in signing him to anything longer then a 5 year deal at less then 6 per. But I really think he would bring such a dynamic that we need, and the flexability to play him at both F and D would help us out big time.

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Hamonic and a 1st? Hamonic and a forward? Tough to gauge the return on Buff, feel like they could get a lot for him though.
For a signed Buff sure, maybe.

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Hamonic and a 1st? Hamonic and a forward? Tough to gauge the return on Buff, feel like they could get a lot for him though.
The Isles wouldn't be adding to Hamonic with Buff being a UFA. If Buff was signed, sure, he's worth more than Hamonic, but not as a UFA. Hamonic is on a good contract.

Probably Buff + for Hamonic. The plus would presumably be something else the Isles could use this year for a playoff run, though not necessarily a rental. Ladd is a possibility if the Isles add something going back to even things up. Burmi is another possibility.

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01-15-2016, 10:35 AM
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Would love to see Buff in an Islanders jersey but a new contract/extension is a must before any trade or just wait for the off season!

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The Isles wouldn't be adding to Hamonic with Buff being a UFA. If Buff was signed, sure, he's worth more than Hamonic, but not as a UFA. Hamonic is on a good contract.

Probably Buff + for Hamonic. The plus would presumably be something else the Isles could use this year for a playoff run, though not necessarily a rental. Ladd is a possibility if the Isles add something going back to even things up. Burmi is another possibility.
If there are still Jets fans that are delusional enough to think that they are getting Hamonic for a deal built around Buff, than I really see no need to respond. That's so profoindly ridiculous that I can rest my case with no rebuttal.

To the op, Buff would be huge, even if we have Hamonic and Boychuk.

However, in all Snow's previous rental deals, he at least went into it expect to resign the player in question. Snow hasn't traded for pure rentals in the past. Buff's likely contact demands would be a non starter.

Also, with no second in this year's draft, I'm skeptical about Snow being interested in rentals.

I agree with the above poster that Ladd would be a more likely target but I'm skeptical about that as well. He's had a meh season and we won't be able to resign him anyway.

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Hamonic and a 1st? Hamonic and a forward? Tough to gauge the return on Buff, feel like they could get a lot for him though.
According to Freidman the Jets offered Big Buff for Hamonic alone and the isles said no. Shortly after that was reported, we started reading comments that the Hamonic trade talk had quieted down and no trade was expected until the summer.

I think we can move past the " Isles give up significant assets to rent Big Buff" idea. Isles are not focusing on Big Buff.We may see Hamonic staying with the NYI until the summer and Big Buff moved by the TDL.


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The Isles wouldn't be adding to Hamonic with Buff being a UFA. If Buff was signed, sure, he's worth more than Hamonic, but not as a UFA. Hamonic is on a good contract.

Probably Buff + for Hamonic. The plus would presumably be something else the Isles could use this year for a playoff run, though not necessarily a rental. Ladd is a possibility if the Isles add something going back to even things up. Burmi is another possibility.
Snow is not moving Hamonic for a soon to be ufa, whichBig Buff and Ladd are.

Burmi would be a sweetener. Not the main piece in a Hamonic trade

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Pardon me if this has been discussed before.

What is Winnipeg looking for for Dustin?

I believe he could be a fit for the Islanders at the deadline.
Wasn't there a rumor going around Byfuglien for Hamonic and Garth Snow said he wasn't interested in Byfuglien. I could be wrong but it sounded like Snow wasn't interested in Byfuglien as a rental and doubted that he could afford to resign him at the price he wanted. I think there's more cup contenders out there then the Islanders I could see Florida or maybe Boston chasing after him.

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Pardon me if this has been discussed before.

What is Winnipeg looking for for Dustin?

I believe he could be a fit for the Islanders at the deadline.
I recall that this was discussed in the Travis Hamonic threads. Some Isles fans seemed offended.

I wouldn't be shocked at all to see an extended Byfuglien swapped with Hamonic at some point, unless Hamonic pulls his trade request off the table.

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I'd rather sign Buff (obviously depending on his demands), but if Buff is traded at the deadline it's going to be for futures. Hamonic makes no sense from the Islanders side. The whole Hamonic to Winnipeg angle will have to be an offseason swap if it's one at all.

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Hamonic and a 1st? Hamonic and a forward? Tough to gauge the return on Buff, feel like they could get a lot for him though.
Pretty sure that Garth Snow already said no to a Hamonic for Buff deal, He's not going to trade Hamonic for a pending UFA in Buff plus he wants a similar young controlled player back for Hamonic and that's not Buff. And from the sound of things it doesn't sound like Snow could afford to sign Buff for what he wants like 8 years $55 Million I know that's on the table for the Jets I guess if he goes to free agency it could be around 7x7 not sure the Islanders would do that.

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I recall that this was discussed in the Travis Hamonic threads. Some Isles fans seemed offended.

I wouldn't be shocked at all to see an extended Byfuglien swapped with Hamonic at some point, unless Hamonic pulls his trade request off the table.
Don't know why NYI fans should be offended. Isles have no wish to trade Hamonic for a rental and Big Buff's contract demands do not seem to be to their liking.
And while you expect a Big Buff for Hamonic swap. I think we are more likely to see Myers for Hamonic if the Jets and Isles trade.

I would be very happy if things settled down for Hamonic (and his family). If he changed his mind about being traded.

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Hamonic and a 1st? Hamonic and a forward? Tough to gauge the return on Buff, feel like they could get a lot for him though.

UFA Buff doesn't get you Hamonic alone.
Hammer is signed long term to a sweetheart deal and is a #2/3 defensman.

WPG may end up with Hamonic but it will be in a different deal

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I can easily see NYI involved in a rental of Byfuglien, because I can easily see NYI attempting to roll 3 defense pairings with relatively equal icetime.

Whether there's a deal depends on (i) whether WPG can sign Byfuglien, and (ii) whether or not they can get back in the wild card race. They are only 4 points out.

At any rate it is way too early to discuss a Byfuglien to ANY team as a rental.

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If there are still Jets fans that are delusional enough to think that they are getting Hamonic for a deal built around Buff, than I really see no need to respond. That's so profoindly ridiculous that I can rest my case with no rebuttal.

To the op, Buff would be huge, even if we have Hamonic and Boychuk.

However, in all Snow's previous rental deals, he at least went into it expect to resign the player in question. Snow hasn't traded for pure rentals in the past. Buff's likely contact demands would be a non starter.

Also, with no second in this year's draft, I'm skeptical about Snow being interested in rentals.
Sounds like Snow would be more likely to look at a dman with a year and change left. Maybe a former Islander whose cap hit is higher than his salary.

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The likely price on Byfuglien is a 1st and a prospect. The Jets will probably pick the deal that offers them the best prospect, or at least the prospect they like the most.

I took a quick look at the Islanders system and there looks to be a fair gap between the prospects that would be off the table (Dal Colle, Barzal, Pullock and Beauvillier) and the ones that would likely be on the table.

I don't really know where that leaves the Islanders if the Jets decide to auction Byfuglien.

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Buff would be a great fit, if the price is right;however, this team is way too soft! The top 3 lines don't hit, look at recent loses to Washington and Philly, and with Boychuk and Hammer out,the isles D is beyond soft! Not a fan of Cappy's but this falls on Snow!

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