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01-19-2013, 12:51 PM
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I wish the lockout would have lasted the full season, got the urge to play this again. I forgot how terrible this game is.

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I wish the lockout would have lasted the full season, got the urge to play this again. I forgot how terrible this game is.
Yeah seriously. They made the goalies super human to stop the cross crease, meanwhile they fall for every stupid short side deke and instead of shooting to the far side on one timersyou just shoot back against the grain into a wide open net. And don't get me started on the poke checks.

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Yeah seriously. They made the goalies super human to stop the cross crease, meanwhile they fall for every stupid short side deke and instead of shooting to the far side on one timersyou just shoot back against the grain into a wide open net. And don't get me started on the poke checks.
NHL 13 or 12??

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01-19-2013, 08:28 PM
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Yeah seriously. They made the goalies super human to stop the cross crease, meanwhile they fall for every stupid short side deke and instead of shooting to the far side on one timersyou just shoot back against the grain into a wide open net. And don't get me started on the poke checks.
Yeah, I see 50% success rate at best on not going far side on one-timers, and far side works much better on all-star difficulty.

I don't see what's so wrong with the poke check. Now you actually can't just rush your way through a defenseman or fire a pass right by them. Try playing smarter and using open lanes. You can't force your way through anymore.

It's a harder game. Adapt.

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01-20-2013, 12:21 PM
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01-20-2013, 12:31 PM
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Yeah, I see 50% success rate at best on not going far side on one-timers, and far side works much better on all-star difficulty.
50% eh? That's a pretty good percentage last time I checked.

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I don't see what's so wrong with the poke check. Now you actually can't just rush your way through a defenseman or fire a pass right by them. Try playing smarter and using open lanes. You can't force your way through anymore.

It's a harder game. Adapt.
If you don't see what's wrong with the poke checks then I question your understanding of physics. First off, poke checks knock pucks off sticks and send them in the opposite direction at ridiculous rates of speed. They knock down passes at a near 100% success rate in what more closely resembles a game of ping pong. Poke checks also stop shots. No they don't just deflect them, they literally stop pucks in their tracks.

NHL 12 was far from perfect, but at least it took more skill then spamming the poke check button and calling it defense.

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01-20-2013, 12:45 PM
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50% eh? That's a pretty good percentage last time I checked.
It's a one-timer. You're raging about last year's game being better where one-timers scored 80% of the time, and now you're complaining that they score too much in this game? I don't see what the big issue is with it here. Seems more like you're cooking up imaginary problems to have with the game.

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If you don't see what's wrong with the poke checks then I question your understanding of physics. First off, poke checks knock pucks off sticks and send them in the opposite direction at ridiculous rates of speed. They knock down passes at a near 100% success rate in what more closely resembles a game of ping pong. Poke checks also stop shots. No they don't just deflect them, they literally stop pucks in their tracks.

NHL 12 was far from perfect, but at least it took more skill then spamming the poke check button and calling it defense.
I have never seen a pokecheck stop a shot dead in its tracks, and spamming the pokecheck still requires good positioning to be effective. I regularly burn past people who do it. If someone is standing in the middle of the passing lane, then poking or not, your pass should not get by. In an actual hockey game, if passes regularly just got fired past your defenseman while he stood in the lane for an entire game, you would be raging at him. Again, it's a harder game, adapt. If someone is standing in the passing lane, then it's NOT an open passing lane, so don't try it. NHL 12 took more skill because standing in the passing lane often accomplished nothing and it was a gamble whether or not your guy would grab the puck. People can guard passing lanes effectively now. Get used to it, rather than trying to force it through them. Try cycling, for example, or continuing to carry the puck. If you try to force old habits in what's a totally different game, then it's no wonder why you can't seem to do well.


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NHL 13 is fun but its not AMAZING like EA Sports says it to be.

Unlike most I don't play HUT, I'm more into EASHL.

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Anyone have an idea when the next roster update should be out?

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It's a one-timer. You're raging about last year's game being better where one-timers scored 80% of the time, and now you're complaining that they score too much in this game? I don't see what the big issue is with it here. Seems more like you're cooking up imaginary problems to have with the game.
You're right man. It's realistic for the goalie to warp over to the other post leaving half the net open.


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I have never seen a pokecheck stop a shot dead in its tracks, and spamming the pokecheck still requires good positioning to be effective. I regularly burn past people who do it. If someone is standing in the middle of the passing lane, then poking or not, your pass should not get by. In an actual hockey game, if passes regularly just got fired past your defenseman while he stood in the lane for an entire game, you would be raging at him. Again, it's a harder game, adapt. If someone is standing in the passing lane, then it's NOT an open passing lane, so don't try it. NHL 12 took more skill because standing in the passing lane often accomplished nothing and it was a gamble whether or not your guy would grab the puck. People can guard passing lanes effectively now. Get used to it, rather than trying to force it through them. Try cycling, for example, or continuing to carry the puck. If you try to force old habits in what's a totally different game, then it's no wonder why you can't seem to do well.
If you think the poke check and puck/stick physics are realistic you are either delusional or it just doesn't bother you. If it doesn't bother you, that's great, but I see it every game and I want to rip my hair out. And this is coming from someone who plays exclusively as a defenseman in EASHL. Even the head developer of the game said poke checks were overpowered.

Who says I can't do well? My record is 124-37-24. I have no problem winning games, its just the way you have to play this year isn't really fun to me. This game just feels like a beta to me. The skating is OK, but the turning and the stuck in mud animation kills it. The warping goalies make this game look like an arcade game. They also took the lazy way out of stopping the cross crease. Instead of fixing what was really wrong- pucks going through sticks and skates and shot accuracy- they just tuned the goalies to warp.

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01-21-2013, 01:10 AM
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Yeah seriously. They made the goalies super human to stop the cross crease, meanwhile they fall for every stupid short side deke and instead of shooting to the far side on one timersyou just shoot back against the grain into a wide open net. And don't get me started on the poke checks.
Fine-tuning the goalie reaction speed does the trick

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I refuse to start a season until they finally put Girgensons on the Amerks
Very soon - within the next week

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Fine-tuning the goalie reaction speed does the trick
If you could actually do that online you would be on to something.

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Anyone have any tips for playing BaP defense in this game?
I have encountered three things that I find particularly challenging: the invisible bubble around the crease that makes it difficult to defend in front of your net (is there a good way to compensate for this?), auto back skating (should it be on or off and if it's off, is there a way to stay turned around without holding the button?), and the camera angle (which one doesn't completely suck for BaP D?).

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50% eh? That's a pretty good percentage last time I checked.



If you don't see what's wrong with the poke checks then I question your understanding of physics. First off, poke checks knock pucks off sticks and send them in the opposite direction at ridiculous rates of speed. They knock down passes at a near 100% success rate in what more closely resembles a game of ping pong. Poke checks also stop shots. No they don't just deflect them, they literally stop pucks in their tracks.

NHL 12 was far from perfect, but at least it took more skill then spamming the poke check button and calling it defense.
Adapt.

Still ways to score in NHL 13.

Fact that you haven't figured it out, 3 months after release, is troubling.

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Yeah seriously. They made the goalies super human to stop the cross crease, meanwhile they fall for every stupid short side deke and instead of shooting to the far side on one timersyou just shoot back against the grain into a wide open net. And don't get me started on the poke checks.
A tip for cross-crease one-timers: don't always aim for the top shelf. If you think the goalie can "reach" the other side by the time you let off the shot, aim for either low blocker (likely that the goalie will be extending his blocker side to cover the top of the net) or the five hole if he had to move a long way. A big part of where to aim at should be based on the goalie animation, though. For instance, when he's going for the dive just shot low.

I used to be frustrated the same way, but now that I'm a bit smarter about my aim I don't have problems converting at a reasonable rate.

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