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Lockout FAQ

Q: What happens to players heading over to Europe?

A: Hopefully, they have negotiated an "escape clause" to return to NHL should the lockout not be a full season. If not, the NHL team can suspend them, and the IIHF may get involved as you cannot have two active contracts with IIHF members. And if a player is injured while playing in Europe, his NHL team could suspend him without pay until healed. Discussion: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1260841


Q: Which NHL-contracted players can play in the AHL?

A: Well, there's only one 18-year old who played in the NHL last year (Oilers' RNH) who will be allowed as a 19 year old to play in the AHL rather than return to juniors. All 18/19 year olds (drafted, but not yet played in the NHL) will be returned to their junior teams. A number of 20 year olds who might nominally play in the AHL, have been told they will play as an overager in juniors (including Sharks draftees JP Anderson, Konrad Abeltshauser). Players on ELS NHL deals or under 22 (and exempt from waivers), plus players on two-way NHL deals who cleared waivers. There also seems to be a small group of players who will be allowed to play on AHL deals if they ended the season in the AHL or were on the AHL Clear Day list. For further details: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1257197


Q: Could the league hire replacement players?

A: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1261625


Q: What happens if the NHLPA decertifies? (Can they?)

A: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1260137 and http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1296167


Q: If there is no union, who does the NHL negotiate with?

A: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1264899 and http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1296167


Q: Do NHL players get paid in a lockout?

A: CBA requires payment of salary to injured players (but once they are healthy, the salary goes away) -- discussion thread: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...php?t=1261239; signing bonuses must also be paid (if applicable, in the timing of the lockout).


Q: What about other folks getting paid in lockout?

A: Bettman/Daly and Fehr/Fehr have said they will forego a salary during the lockout. Depending on their individual contracts, GMs, coaches, equipment/training staff and other team related staff may receive their full salary, a partial salary or no salary. Some teams are laying off their team employees as well. Discussion of team layoffs (and local city impacts): http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1250397


Q: Who will be awarded the Stanley Cup if there's no NHL season?

A: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1232973


Q: What will happen to contracts if there's a full season lost?

A: Unknown. It's part of the negotiated CBA "transition". The 2005 CBA included "burning" a year of all players, except those in junior who had their contracts slide.


Q: What happens to signing bonuses paid pre-lockout how they impact % split, roll backs (if any), post-new CBA buyouts if there's only a partial season?

A: Unknown. It'll be part of the negotiated CBA "transition." There could be a window to buyout players (Montreal's Scott Gomez comes to mind) with no-cap hit resulting.


Q: If the season starts late, what about the guys in juniors? Will they be able to play in the NHL?

A: The NHL-CHL transfer agreement expired at the same time as the CBA. However, CHL commish Branch indicated in radio interview before the lockout that players in juniors would be able to be called up to the NHL for the season. NHL teams were required to "register" which CHL players they might/plan to recall if season starts late. http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1244883 (includes link to list of "registred" players; see post #24)


Q: When's the next negotiating session?

A: Keep an eye on the stickied CBA news thread.


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http://lawreview.law.ucdavis.edu/iss...-4_Feldman.pdf

2012 law paper on Anti-trust vs labor law by Feldman. Looks at NFL and NBA cases of decertification and the legal questions raised.



http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=410312

TSN "primer" on decertification


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Legal Wrangling: class action lawsuit, NLRB application

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-l...nhlvsnhlpa.pdf

Copy of class action lawsuit NHL filed Friday 12/14

http://www.nhlpa.com/news/nhlpa-stat...ractice-charge

NHLPA response
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“The NHLPA has just received a copy of the National Labor Relations Board charge and has not yet been served with the lawsuit. However, based on what we’ve learned so far, the NHL appears to be arguing that Players should be stopped from even considering their right to decide whether or not to be represented by a union. We believe that their position is completely without merit.”
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=411791

Former federal prosecutor assigned as judge to case (and Yankee fan).
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The case was assigned to U.S. District Judge Paul A. Engelmayer, who joined the bench in July 2011.

The 51-year-old is a graduate of Horace Mann School, Harvard College and Harvard Law School.

He spent a year between college and graduate school as a reporter for The Wall Street Journal. After clerking for Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall, he had two stints in the U.S. Attorney's office in Manhattan, rising to chief of the major crimes unit. He also worked in the Solicitor General's office in Washington, D.C.


http://www.nlrb.gov/case/02-CB-094988
NLRB case filed Friday


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