Are you thinking about how the players actually play, or just looking up their listed sizes? The Russians showed in the summer and a few weeks ago that they won't easily be pushed around, not that they will even look to push Canada around most of the time. If the Swedes end up playing a more physical game then Canada, it will probably be the first time. It's much more significant that Canada shows that they are talented enough to be better than those teams.
You need a team that can play any game. This is a soft team that will not know how to play in their own zone. We will see
This team is set up for success. Every single player can skate! (Why Lipon was taken over McNeil).
Also, the bottom 6 can contribute with limited minutes. (Nuge and hubredeau will get top PP and PK duties so you're looking at probably close to 20 min of ice against the better teams leaving less for the bottom.)
And every player is fairly disciplined. (Hubredeau is the most undisciplined on the team which is still pretty good). We lost last year due to discipline problems.
Really surprised Brossoit was cut... especially after Binnington's performance today. Brossoit saw by far the most shots of any of the goalies, 2nd best save percentage (.960), and seemed most confident/adept handling the puck. Based on camp performance he absolutely deserved to be # 2 at least. I thought with his camp performance, plus an exceptional game against the Russians in the SSS he should have been on this team.
Makes me wonder if Spott had already decided to go with the 3 OHL'ers based on a level of familiarity/comfort before camp even started?
I feel bad for guys like Brossoit and Corrado who, based on their selection camp performance, should have made the team. I would have no problem with HC doing away with the selection camp and just picking a team based on things like summer camp, league play, and the SSS... it seems like they are pretty much doing that now.
I agree with this. Why have a "camp" if the team is selected beforehand? If the camp itself had any weight at all then Brossoit and Corrado would both be on the team and Subban would be going home along with Murphy.
I really think they should have an independent full time team Canada coach as well. Someone who can scout the players and doesnt come with a built in bias of league or club team.
We see it time and time again where this bias comes into play and its bs. But when you have a program where the head scout is a proven failure, then you get what you get. Nepotism and the Old Boys Club is in full effect.
Very pleased to see Binnington make to team. Nice to have representation from both my NHL and junior teams. Its been few and far between having our players make their respective national junior teams, it was great to see Catenacci get the camp invite aswel. Hopefully Binner can get into an early game and make a bid for starter. Didn't really standout at all so far though. Its a longshot but when he's hot he's on it. Would love him to turn it on here and keep it going for a mem cup bid.
In front of the net? Hmm...who is going to move Ritchie? Jenner? Even Strome and Scheifele aren't small. You mention MacKinnon and RNH and getting pucks out of the corners. Their board work is fantastic. Do you know anything about these players? This isn't a small roster:
Anthony Camara 6'1 195
Phillip Danault 6'0 189
Jonathan Drouin 5'10 .5 185
Jonathan Huberdeau 6'1 176
Charles Hudon 5'11 171
Boone Jenner 6'2 205
JC Lipon 5'11 .5 180
Nathan MacKinnon 5'11 179
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 6'0 185
Ty Rattie 6'0 176
Brett Ritchie 6'4 218
Mark Scheifele 6'3 187
Ryan Strome 6'1 192
Team Russia Average height of forwards in camp is 6'1" and weight is 179 pounds.
Average height of forwards in camp is 6' and weight is 193 pounds.
We certainly don't have anyone this small:
John Gaudreau 5'9" 150
Rocco Grimaldi 5'6" 165
They also have two defenseman that weight 167 and 168
Average height of forwards in camp is 6'.5 and weight is 185 pounds.
So please tell me who exactly are we supposed to be intimidated by and overpowered by? Sure there are a few big guys out there like Biggs, but Canada is not a small team. Stop panicking.
6'1 193 avg** courtesy of elite prospects
ops thought you meant forwards plus defense.
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I hate it when people say "ainec". It's like you're so insecure with what you're saying the only way to justify it is to hyperbolize it.
That quote would be true, had the Oilers not have Yakupov, Schultz, Eberle, and Hall on their team. With those 4, it's pretty safe to say the skill levels between the 5 are "pretty close".
I hate semantics as much as the next person, but when people start saying things like that, it pushes my buttons, so I just thought I'd clear it up for you.
Clear what up, that my opinion is invalid? That you do not like the way I word my sentences? You didn't offer anything insightful in that little rant, so don't feel as though you've done me the pleasure of 'clearing things up'. I thing RNH will be a 90 point centreman with an all around strong game, which will be far and ahead of Ebs, Hall, and Yak who I think will always float around 65 - 70pts. This is where I see a large separation, at least points wise. I think he will be better overall as well though. That is why ainec was used, not to add hyperbole; but to express my opinion of just how good a player he is. Glad I could clear that up.
I'm not talking about Hanson brother hockey here. Who will be put in front of the net?? Drouin hudon lion ?? Who?? Who will go get the puck from the corner? mackinnon ?? Rnh ? This team is relying to much on rnh. Team Canada relied on lindros during the 1992 ANC and almost got relegated. Fooooolls at hockey Canada
Reading you go on and on about this is akin to having a clanging symbol being bashed repeatedly, over and over again, until it just drones in harmony with the constant ringing in your ears.
You act as if there is no sandpaper on this team. They have plenty. This is largely going to be big ice Euro hockey. Not much hitting but lots of fast back and forth hockey. Im glad they left one dimensional plugs like Wilson home and took a chance on a creative wunderkind like Drouin. In recent past years it would have been the other way around and we havent won for a while now, so maybe its time to try something different?
That is how I see things ending up when the knockout round starts.
For those complaining about the lack of grit, you have to keep things in perspective. The competition is with the other teams, not past Canadian teams. Canada should be able to mix it up with any team over there easily. Only USA could really bring a team with any significant edge in physicality, and when you remember that it's in Europe and look at their lack of actual talent it's clearly not a real concern.
You don't think MacKinnon and Drouin will play together?