Don't expect it to be as good as LOTR, because it isn't and you will be disappointed if you do. My biggest gripe is that the intro is too long (I think it was longer then Fellowship) however the movie gets better and better as it goes on (hopefully that translates into parts 2 and 3)
Also, the visuals don't have as many moments as LOTR, as the scenery is way less diverse and interesting (so far) but when those moments do happen they are just as amazing
I plan on standing up in the middle of the theatre and shouting things at the audience in a nerd rage.
Have yet to see the film. I expect it will be epic nostalgia though. The Hobbit was such an awesome read. Really looking forward to a more mature realization of the story.
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Don't expect it to be as good as LOTR, because it isn't and you will be disappointed if you do. My biggest gripe is that the intro is too long (I think it was longer then Fellowship) however the movie gets better and better as it goes on (hopefully that translates into parts 2 and 3)
Also, the visuals don't have as many moments as LOTR, as the scenery is way less diverse and interesting (so far) but when those moments do happen they are just as amazing
First of all, you are comparing the first part of the Hobbit to the collection as a whole with the LOTR's trilogy.
The beginning was longer yes, but if you read the book you would remember they are sticking closer to it than the did with the LOTR.
My biggest gripe with LOTR's was they left out 90% of the book.
In the Hobbit they are keeping everything so far, and adding to give a little more substance. I had goosebumps when they kept the songs in.
They key to enjoying these movies is to remember he wrote the Hobbit first. He wrote them for his kids, as they got older and matured he wrote the LOTR to better suit them.
As far as the "", you went in expecting to be amazed. In LOTR you were not expecting it. Also, they were rushing to meet the deadline. They were still rendering graphics 1 week before the New Zealand opening. They're are getting to the better parts of the book in the next film. You will see more of Smaug and in the final movie they will have the battle of the five armies. Which will rock!
First of all, you are comparing the first part of the Hobbit to the collection as a whole with the LOTR's trilogy.
The beginning was longer yes, but if you read the book you would remember they are sticking closer to it than the did with the LOTR.
My biggest gripe with LOTR's was they left out 90% of the book.
In the Hobbit they are keeping everything so far, and adding to give a little more substance. I had goosebumps when they kept the songs in.
They key to enjoying these movies is to remember he wrote the Hobbit first. He wrote them for his kids, as they got older and matured he wrote the LOTR to better suit them.
As far as the "", you went in expecting to be amazed. In LOTR you were not expecting it. Also, they were rushing to meet the deadline. They were still rendering graphics 1 week before the New Zealand opening. They're are getting to the better parts of the book in the next film. You will see more of Smaug and in the final movie they will have the battle of the five armies. Which will rock!
Read my first post, I thought it was great (I even have said somewhere on HF that the next movies should be better, like you say), but all movies have things to criticize. Don't be too quick to attack me just for pointing out criticisms, they weren't reasons to dislike the film. They were just things that could have been improved. Also, I didn't want to get peoples hopes up to high, and have them not enjoy it. (Because people do that a lot for sequels)
For LOTR leaving out a bunch from the book, don't forget that Jackson had a lot less screen time to work with. A quick google search of the word counts for each shows LOTR (not including the appendices is just under 5 times as long as the Hobbit. 3 movies times 5 is 15. Do you really think New Line would have given Jackson 15 movies (5 per book) on what was a big gamble. If they came out every year, we would just be starting Return of the King. And if you divide the Aragorn half of ROK into two films, we probably see the orc army marching towards Minass Tirith to end the film. Not to mention that film is a completely different median then literature. There is a lot you can write about, that doesn't work on film. And no, I'm not insisting that you did, or didn't like the film. I'm just saying that the vast majority of changes to the book are justified, even though there are parts that I too wish were in the film, but got cut.
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I understand the reasoning for leaving so much out, I am saying I appreciate the fact they are leaving in as much as they can because they knew leaving out so much was a travesty. I am happy they added Radagast the Brown into the hobbit since they left him out in the LOTR.
I was hoping the climax was going to be the battle with the necromancer, at least we will get to see that later.
I was most disappointed with the lack of Hobbiton under Sharman. Although I understand why it would be cut, considering it is essentially a side plot that seems like it was tossed in at the last moment. Also the rewrite to Helm's Deep didn't sit well with me.
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I was most disappointed with the lack of Hobbiton under Sharman. Although I understand why it would be cut, considering it is essentially a side plot that seems like it was tossed in at the last moment. Also the rewrite to Here's Deep didn't sit well with me.
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Yeah, I wanted to see the Scouring of the Shire as well, but the extended edition at least brings closure to Saruman's role in the story (and he is killed by Grima like in the book). The 2nd part I would add would be the Barrow Downs. For Helm's Deep what parts specifically are you referring to? It has been a while since I read the book, and the only things I remember being different are Eomer playing a larger role, no Elves, and the Hurons (sp?) playing a role at the end
moments as LOTR, as the scenery is way less diverse and interesting (so far) but when those moments do happen they are just as amazing
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