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12-15-2012, 03:18 PM
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Honestly, I really miss Calc 3. Fun challenging class that had problems, while brain melting at some points, that actually got you to think in different ways about shapes and volume and ****.
I just finished that class this past term. Really interesting class and more applications than single-variable calculus. James Stewart, the renowned textbook author, even came as a guest lecturer once.

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12-15-2012, 03:20 PM
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I retired from math after 2004 and I didn't regret it one bit

As a young lad I enjoyed math but then things changed

They the old days

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12-15-2012, 03:28 PM
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Taking calc 2 next semester. Should be fun.

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In my degree I still need to do:

Complex (300-level)
Applied PDE (400-level)
Applied complex (400-level)

I have already taken:
Calc 1,2,3,4 (from 100- to 300-level)
Linear 1 (100-level)
Linear 2 (200-level)
ODE (200-level)
PDE (200-level)
Probability (300-level)

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In football chat and conversation suddenly shifts to everyone complaining about college math and physics

Now I've been retired from the math game since 2004 but I tell you you have to be 1% to even contend for math or physics

It's as tough a road as the Atlantic Division

Only the very strong survive

We were talking about how averages in those classes are like a 30

So go ahead and have a go at math...but be warned, only the 1% survive

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12-15-2012, 07:00 PM
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If I were to hypothetically come out of retirement and take a engineering physics / calculus course for freshmen I would fail

And I'm a lot more vetted than I was back when I was a lad

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I truly believe that people who understand and excel at Physics/higher-level Math are the geniuses of this world. Not doctors, not lawyers, not anyone else...

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I truly believe that people who understand and excel at Physics/higher-level Math are the geniuses of this world. Not doctors, not lawyers, not anyone else...
What about creative people? Can they not be geniuses?

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What about creative people? Can they not be geniuses?
Since when math/physic exclude creativity?

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Since when math/physic exclude creativity?
I don't think artistic creativity is comparable to mathematic creativity.

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Different types of intelligence and creativity

Difficult to say that math or science elites are smartest

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I don't think artistic creativity is comparable to mathematic creativity.
Not trying to downplay the great artists , but arts has no rules per say.It's more difficult to be creative when your creativity has to be logical even after rigorous review.

Einstein's creativity had to be relevant to reality , an artist can create his own world without logic.That's not to say some artists aren't geniuses , but I fail to see how a genius could be bad at mathematics.That doesn't mean the genius will do a ph.d in mathematics , but it means he would have had the talent to do it if he had decided to go that route.


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What about creative people? Can they not be geniuses?
Sure they can, but not at the same level, IMO.

I'm not saying this because I'm good at those; in fact, I'm the exact opposite. Give me Physiology, Pharmacology, Oncology, Organic Chemistry any day. I'll be staying away from Physics as soon as I'm done both I and II because they are pre-reqs, unfortunately.

EDIT: I'm sorry... I kind of derailed this thread.

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12-15-2012, 08:16 PM
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In football chat and conversation suddenly shifts to everyone complaining about college math and physics

Now I've been retired from the math game since 2004 but I tell you you have to be 1% to even contend for math or physics

It's as tough a road as the Atlantic Division

Only the very strong survive

We were talking about how averages in those classes are like a 30

So go ahead and have a go at math...but be warned, only the 1% survive
The average for my first calc mid term was 28%

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I truly believe that people who understand and excel at Physics/higher-level Math are the geniuses of this world. Not doctors, not lawyers, not anyone else...
The thing with math is you are pretty much born with the skill, and while you have to have a certain level of intelligence to become a doctor/lawyer it really just takes a lot of hard work and determination. If you suck at math though, you pretty much just suck at it for life

I absolutely suck at math, I had to take calc as a prerequisite for my major and luckily the teacher had a very generous grading scale. I always had a hard time paying attention during math classes, I just find it very boring..but of course I wish I was good at it like some people.

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12-15-2012, 08:29 PM
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The thing with math is you are pretty much born with the skill, and while you have to have a certain level of intelligence to become a doctor/lawyer it really just takes a lot of hard work and determination. If you suck at math though, you pretty much just suck at it for life

I absolutely suck at math, I had to take calc as a prerequisite for my major and luckily the teacher had a very generous grading scale. I always had a hard time paying attention during math classes, I just find it very boring..but of course I wish I was good at it like some people.
True. In order to do MD (especially) or LLB, it takes a really good work ethic while (I'm generalizing) someone doing Physics/Math can get away with not a lot of studying. If they understand the conceptual stuff, they will be good without putting a lot of time into studying. If you don't study for Physiology or Anatomy, you're ****ed. I always say that to my engineering friends, lol. They respond back saying, "well, you just have to memorize stuff... it's not that hard to do." Little do they know that one lecture covers 30+ slides of just one concept.

But still, I'm so jealous of kids who can do Physics like it's no big deal. For me, I need to work really hard to understand it.

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12-15-2012, 08:39 PM
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Lots of places. Wall street, actuarial science, applied mathematics/statistic/census type work, opens the door to getting just about any computer science job as well. The benefits to difficulty ratio is probably the best out of any degree you can get.

My CS degree was taking too long, I said **** it, did math instead, and still have pretty much the same job with the same pay I'd probably have if I was CS (in terms of entry level things available at least, I'm about as well off as you can be unless you're a top grad being recruited by everyone).

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I truly believe that people who understand and excel at Physics/higher-level Math are the geniuses of this world. Not doctors, not lawyers, not anyone else...
Yes. True.

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12-17-2012, 01:05 PM
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Blatantly stolen from Hilarious Images Thread



Stupid differential equations

Have no clue what is going on

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Pretty basic stuff, just an interesting choice of variables

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I'm glad that came up here so we don't have to geek up the hilarious images thread. It's an extremely easy question. Basically if you remember the form of the solution (the exponential that's written out in the second step there), you'd have to have walked in to the wrong room to not solve the rest.

As for the earlier discussion regarding geniuses, memorization, etc. It's all about how you learn. Some people can do difficult conceptual work that others could never grasp but suck at memorization. If you're one of those people, math/stats/engineering/science (not biology and probably not chemistry) is a good choice.

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Stupid differential equations

Have no clue what is going on
Psychologically it's so much less intimidating even though it's no different

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That's the equivalent of 2+3=? in an elementary school test.

Also, it's pretty funny that the T.A. wrote "WTF".

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