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12-14-2012, 01:48 PM
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Enough already!

Yes, we get it, there's a lockout, we get it, you're not happy... But enough with all the talks of protest, symbolic messages being sent, boycotting NHL and NHLPA products, pledges to never watch the game again...

There are lockouts and strikes happening everyday, some affect less people some more, I agree with the fact that it sucks, but at the same time, NHL teams are worth on average about 282M$, and its a multi-billion dollar industry, its normal that negotiating a new CBA will take time. The collateral damage is more evident in this case because of the nature of the business but it still doesn't mean, in my opinion, that the feelings of the fans, while important to keep the NHL growing, should be a factor in the negotiations.

The way I see it, its a business negotiation, I'll just wait on the sidelines until both parties have reached an agreement that they're both happy with, and when that happens, I'll gladly go back to watching NHL games without showing anger, without complaining about the length of the lockout (or the cancelled season if that be the case), and especially without being less of a fan, just like I would for any other business that goes though a lockout or a strike.

I see threads and posts on this board everyday about people wanting to "send a message" to the NHL and to the NHLPA, do you really think they don't know that the lockout is affecting the fans of the game?? Do you really think they're doing it on purpose??

Bettman and Fehr are both very intelligent and competent in what they do, they're both great lawyers and they're both doing what they can to get the maximum out of this deal in the interest of their respective clients, can't you respect that?


No one's happy with the lockout, but we, as fans, should respect the process of negotiating a CBA even at the cost of losing a season.

Sorry for the long rant, I just needed to get this out.

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I said this months ago. Too late OP.

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Have you considered a PM to a mod asking them to institute a ban on the topic being discussed in HF forums?

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I would agree with this in theory but the whole "respecting the process of negotiating a CBA" goes straight out the window when it can be seen from the outer reaches of the Milky Way that the two parties involved are not doing that.

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12-14-2012, 02:00 PM
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Actually I don't think there are enough threads about taking action and I think people have every right to be irate. I would love to see a fan association of some sort personally.

I love the ideas of boycott, leaving during a game etc. I think we need to really mobilize fans and this is a good place to start.

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I find the "enough already" comments much more irritating than discussions about the state of the NHL on an NHL board.

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Actually I don't think there are enough threads about taking action and I think people have every right to be irate. I would love to see a fan association of some sort personally.

I love the ideas of boycott, leaving during a game etc. I think we need to really mobilize fans and this is a good place to start.
buy why? would you mobilize against Starbucks if there was a strike there?

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buy why? would you mobilize against Starbucks if there was a strike there?


I've actually never been to Starbucks in my life. How's their coffee?

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Yeah, go blow your paycheck on NHL.com during a lockout. I'm content to read and discuss possible movements.

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I find the "enough already" comments much more irritating than discussions about the state of the NHL on an NHL board.
you can discuss it of course, but to the point where there's a new thread every few days to boycott something about the nhl?

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1307881

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1307579

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1305751

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I've actually never been to Starbucks in my life. How's their coffee?
don't be purposely dense, you know what i mean

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you can discuss it of course, but to the point where there's a new thread every few days to boycott something about the nhl?

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1307881

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1307579

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1305751
You know you don't have to click on the links if you don't like the content right?

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This thread is far more useless than those discussing it (Enough already! I'm mobilizing against the mobilizers!! My voice of "shutup" is going to be heard over their voices of "we want hockey"! On a hockey board!).

Also, I'm not going to tell you what to do, but those who go running back to buy tickets and merch are helping nobody. This is not a normal business negotiation and this isn't about 'respecting the process'. Neither side is negotiating in good faith or respecting the process. "The process" itself has become a mockery of the fans and the sport.

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don't be purposely dense, you know what i mean
You're comparing a place where you get ****** expensive coffee to the institution that is NHL hockey and you're calling me dense?

On a side note, do you always go around insulting people and telling them how to think and what to do, say and not say? Or are you just having a bad day?

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I see too little to respect to respect the process.

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Enough of these Enough already threads. More annoying than the lockout threads.

Its far more annoying to listen to some lemmings banter than to actually discuss the lockout with other fans.

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buy why? would you mobilize against Starbucks if there was a strike there?
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I've actually never been to Starbucks in my life. How's their coffee?
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don't be purposely dense, you know what i mean
NHL. Top professional league in the world.

Starbucks. One of many many chains, and a person can make coffee at home.

Yet the comparison.


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So, I'm not allowed to not buy NHL merchandise to show my unhappiness? Or even talk about it because you say enough?

Sorry, I will continue to do what I plan on.

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You know you don't have to click on the links if you don't like the content right?
This certainly seems like a simple solution!

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NHL. Top professional league in the world.

Starbucks. One of many many chains, and a person can make coffee at home.

Yet the comparison.

You mean you don't have a Starbucks jersey?

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You mean you don't have a Starbucks jersey?
Season tickets, baby. Even building an outdoor Starbucks in my backyard this winter.

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Still funny that no side has tried to get some CBA talks done before the old one ran out.

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I've actually never been to Starbucks in my life. How's their coffee?
Starbucks doesn't sell coffee. They sell coffee-flavored milkshakes.

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NHL. Top professional league in the world.

Starbucks. One of many many chains, and a person can make coffee at home.

Yet the comparison.

Starbucks - revenue of $3.36 Billion in the 3 months ending in September 2012, largest coffee company in the world.

NHL. One of many hockey leagues, and you can play hockey in a backyard rink. Well, as long as you don't live in LA.

Just saying......

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