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12-14-2012, 05:43 PM
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Lockout XXX: You never trust a millionaire

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Why does it have to suck so hard to be a hockey fan?

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Part of NHL's filing includes section requesting declaration that "all existing contracts between NHL players and teams would be void."

https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/279747334152257536

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Part of NHL's filing includes section requesting declaration that "all existing contracts between NHL players and teams would be void."

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Yes, we all knew this. You seemed far to enlightened by something everyone else already knew..
So if everyone knows this then why should the NHL even bother to take the NHLPA to court and file an unfair labor practice to the NLRB? Since it is so obvious to everyone, why should they even take any action to defend themselves?

The point is that the NHL is justified in its actions, in case you have some ill informed posters springing up crying foul at the NHL's attempt to block the PA from dissolving.

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Part of NHL's filing includes section requesting declaration that "all existing contracts between NHL players and teams would be void."
Uh..... are they saying that's what would happen if the PA decertified??? Anyone????

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Part of NHL's filing includes section requesting declaration that "all existing contracts between NHL players and teams would be void."
Think the players are going to scrambling now to ask for the last offer to be put to vote? Just imagine how would they like to be paid by the hour for their performance.

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Part of NHL's filing includes section requesting declaration that "all existing contracts between NHL players and teams would be void."

https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/279747334152257536


Well I don't think that's gonna happen.

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James Mirtle ‏@mirtle

Part of NHL's filing includes section requesting declaration that "all existing contracts between NHL players and teams would be void."
daaaamn. ok, maybe i'm looking at this the wrong way. does that mean that when the lockout is resolved every player needs to have a new contract negotiated??

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Part of NHL's filing includes section requesting declaration that "all existing contracts between NHL players and teams would be void."

https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/279747334152257536
No more useless deadweight like Gomez Bourque! As long as Price and Subban stay Habs fans rejoice.

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Think the players are going to scrambling now to ask for the last offer to be put to vote? Just imagine how would they like to be paid by the hour for their performance.
Think they will be once they read that.

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Wow this is going to get UGLY if that news is accurate, Parise and Suter must be ******** their pants right now.

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Part of NHL's filing includes section requesting declaration that "all existing contracts between NHL players and teams would be void."

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Hmmmm, that doesnt sound like a good thing for the PA.

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Brilliantly played by the NHL and the owners. Wow.

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daaaamn. ok, maybe i'm looking at this the wrong way. does that mean that when the lockout is resolved every player needs to have a new contract negotiated??
No, what it means is that, if the contracts are declared void, the Players cannot file an anti-trust lawsuit as there is no contract to base it on. The contracts would be restored with a CBA.

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Part of NHL's filing includes section requesting declaration that "all existing contracts between NHL players and teams would be void."

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Dayum. That would be chaos.

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I hope the players that want to put this mess behind them and just play hockey are given the advice necessary to make the right vote that will benefit them.

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No more useless deadweight like Gomez Bourque! As long as Price and Subban stay Habs fans rejoice.
if everyone suddenly became a free agent that would be insane

can't say I'm surprised that the NHL wants to do that though. they can probably enforce an arbitrary salary cap without any cba or union

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Why does it have to suck so hard to be a hockey fan?
And just imagine being a small-market/non-traditional fan... we get to go through "Business" drama every year as it is, doubly during labor unrest.

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The owners have won this and it hasn't even gone to courts yet.

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Wow this is going to get UGLY if that news is accurate, Parise and Suter must be ******** their pants right now.
This is what the NHL is asking for. The court can ultimately agree or disagree.

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idiots.
they are all idiots.

they went from nearly having a deal, to lawsuits, i hope both sides go broke

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daaaamn. ok, maybe i'm looking at this the wrong way. does that mean that when the lockout is resolved every player needs to have a new contract negotiated??
It means if the players go through with decertification, the NHL is requesting that their contracts are void, and everyone would be a free agent when this thing is resolved.

ONLY if the players decertify though. And ONLY if the courts agree with the NHL.

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Brilliantly played by the NHL and the owners. Wow.
Bettman was labelled a dictator by many when he imposed the no-comment rule. He looks like a genius now...

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daaaamn. ok, maybe i'm looking at this the wrong way. does that mean that when the lockout is resolved every player needs to have a new contract negotiated??
Everyone would be a UFA.

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