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04-10-2013, 02:07 PM
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If one player was that toxic to a team, you simply don't have a very strong team or leadership. Particularly when you consider IceCaps have to be one of, if the not the oldest team in the league, that would be bad news.
The reason I site that is because the timing of the turn around seemed like it was close to when Spencer left?

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04-10-2013, 02:19 PM
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My initial impression of Lowry was wrong. He is on the higher end of forward on the team. He sticks his nose into what is going on. He bumps bodies. If he puts some pounds on watch out. I like his grit.

Gagnon seemed to get his groove back in early March. He had an 11 game point games streak going in March. Who knows if Macho departing had anything else to. The O'Dell, Mouillerat, Lunden line has been on fire the last few weeks as well. I hope the Jets give Mouillerat a 2 way for next season, the kid is all heart. He took on a Marlie defenseman last Saturday night that towered over him.

On the other hand Pasquale is really not doing well, Dekanich is a better prospect IMO
good post

Nice to hear Adam is growing on you, I was hoping he would begin to make a favorable impression at some point.

seems like allot of the Ice Caps recent good fortunes could be coming from some of the key members just heating up a bit. Glad it is turning around a bit.

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The reason I site that is because the timing of the turn around seemed like it was close to when Spencer left?
I've posted this many times but got ignored.

At the time of Machacek's leaving he was tied for second place for the season with winning the Hardest Working IceCap Player most often. How toxic is that?

And, HC is right. Even IF Spencer was a toxic player, he can only affect a team so much. In the end these are players who are playing as a job and trying to earn the big bucks that they are so close to getting (relative to the rest of the world).



If you want to know why the IceCaps did so bad it's pretty obvious and easy to find:
*lost pretty much all of their defensive-core (Postma, Meech, Festerling, Kulda, Redmond) and replaced it with rookies (Melchiori, Sol, O`Neill, Chiarot)
*both goalies having bad years relative to their last
Eddie started well below 0.900 this season but just recently pulled it up to 0.908; he was 0.911 last season.
Dekanich is 0.897... a far cry from his 0.920-0.940 back-to-back 3 seasons in 2008-11
*no puck luck offensively: about half way through the season Burmistrov, Gagnon, Maxwell, Maceneaur, Machacek, Jaffaray, King, Klingberg, and Whitmore were all well below their normal SH% (I think at one point Maxwell had over 100 shots and like 2 goals). That's a big hit when you see those were the teams top producers even at the time. McCambridge said at one point they were tracking high percentage scoring chances and they were more-often-than-not dominating there but still losing.

Combine those three factors and you are not going to win.

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04-10-2013, 03:47 PM
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I've posted this many times but got ignored.

At the time of Machacek's leaving he was tied for second place for the season with winning the Hardest Working IceCap Player most often. How toxic is that?

And, HC is right. Even IF Spencer was a toxic player, he can only affect a team so much. In the end these are players who are playing as a job and trying to earn the big bucks that they are so close to getting (relative to the rest of the world).



If you want to know why the IceCaps did so bad it's pretty obvious and easy to find:
*lost pretty much all of their defensive-core (Postma, Meech, Festerling, Kulda, Redmond) and replaced it with rookies (Melchiori, Sol, O`Neill, Chiarot)
*both goalies having bad years relative to their last
Eddie started well below 0.900 this season but just recently pulled it up to 0.908; he was 0.911 last season.
Dekanich is 0.897... a far cry from his 0.920-0.940 back-to-back 3 seasons in 2008-11
*no puck luck offensively: about half way through the season Burmistrov, Gagnon, Maxwell, Maceneaur, Machacek, Jaffaray, King, Klingberg, and Whitmore were all well below their normal SH% (I think at one point Maxwell had over 100 shots and like 2 goals). That's a big hit when you see those were the teams top producers even at the time. McCambridge said at one point they were tracking high percentage scoring chances and they were more-often-than-not dominating there but still losing.

Combine those three factors and you are not going to win.
very good post garret as usual!!!

can't believe I missed this the first 5 times you posted it

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Another early lead for the IceCaps.

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During the game they were talking about Lowry:
They said Lowry is looking better every game
McCambridge apparently said he's giving lots of minutes to Lowry as he seems to be playing the game well, although he needs to fill out his frame a bit

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2. STJ Saponari, (1) (Lowry, Ramsey), 2:01

Saponari with his first goal, Lowry with his first point.

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For those wondering how the goal happened.
It was a 3-on-2 with Lowry carrying the puck.
Lowry tried to centre it to Kubalik, but a Portland player blocked the pass, but it hit the Portland goalie and Saponari got the rebound.

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2. STJ Saponari, (1) (Lowry, Ramsey), 2:01

Saponari with his first goal, Lowry with his first point.
Too early to call it a streak? 2 points in 2 games for Big Saps!

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Wow what a setup by O`Neill to Jaffary

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Edit: Cool, they're playing Lowry at centre? Or is it just for faceoffs?


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Edit: Cool, they're playing Lowry at centre? Or is it just for faceoffs?
Started off on the LW but now has been playing C between Klingberg and Saponari.
McCambridge seldom keeps lines the same back-to-back due to having a whole lot of players on the roster right now.

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Started off on the LW but now has been playing C between Klingberg and Saponari.
McCambridge seldom keeps lines the same back-to-back due to having a whole lot of players on the roster right now.
Thanks for the info. I haven't watched an ice caps game in a while.

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I like how Melchiori has the smarts to close the gap, forcing the player to chip it in, but then the wheels to beat the chipper to the puck

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This is NOT the same IceCaps team I watched a month or so ago. Lots of hustle and some nice plays. Like the look of Lowry out there - seems to fit in playing with men as opposed to boys. Good to see.

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They look really good. Klingberg seems great with the puck, almost Burmistrov like. O'Dell looks pretty good. Lowry looks surprisingly good, great on faceoffs, carries the puck well, and good defensively. Doesn't look out of place at all.

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Was very surprised how Lowry didn't look out of place at all, also liked the look of Saponari from the little I saw. Thanks for sharing Hammer

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Thanks HS!

Looked good in the third. Good to see the boys get the win.


Definitly happy with both lowry and...sponari? was that the one?

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CanadianJet......Trouty.......Come out come out where ever you are

I know the season has sucked but if you get a chance to weigh in on how the team is looking as of late the boys from the board would appreciate some first hand knowledge.

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CanadianJet......Trouty.......Come out come out where ever you are

I know the season has sucked but if you get a chance to weigh in on how the team is looking as of late the boys from the board would appreciate some first hand knowledge.
Guys are playing well obviously.Lowry is getting better game by game.

Melchiori has been great as of late.Same with Dex.

Mouillerat has been quite the pickup.I honestly believe he will get a contract wit the Jets over the summer.

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Guys are playing well obviously.Lowry is getting better game by game.

Melchiori has been great as of late.Same with Dex.

Mouillerat has been quite the pickup.I honestly believe he will get a contract wit the Jets over the summer.
Thanks For the post.

Glad you are at least getting the effort you are paying your hard earned money for....losing always sucks but I can deal with it unless my team seems like they aren't trying or don't give a ****, that drives me crazy.

Glad our friends are getting to see some wins and really glad Lowry is fitting in.


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