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View Poll Results: Who's taking home gold
Canada 101 64.33%
USA 8 5.10%
Russia 22 14.01%
Finland 7 4.46%
Sweden 5 3.18%
Germany 1 0.64%
Switzerland 0 0%
Slovakia 1 0.64%
Czech Republic 0 0%
Latvia 12 7.64%
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12-29-2012, 06:14 PM
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Should be a good game tonight against the americans and again monday morning against russia
Two tough opponents
i think canada will win one and lose one, maybe beat usa and lose to russia
Just a prediction though anything can happen

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12-29-2012, 07:07 PM
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One thing Yakupov doesn't get enough credit for is how good of a passer he is.
I've been saying that for a while as well... he's an elite passer BUT he needs teammates that are on the ball to receive his passes because they are accurate but often very hard... too quick for many to handle.

To me his playmaking is just as good as his goal scoring which is scary because when he can't unload his one-timer because he's being well covered by dmen... he can offload to the open man and create a great scoring chance.

Between Yakupov, RNH and Schultz who all have elite playmaking skills who can set up AND score... the Oilers are going to be a lot of fun to watch. Eberle and Hall could both pot 40+ with all that playmaking talent out there.

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12-29-2012, 07:14 PM
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One thing Yakupov doesn't get enough credit for is how good of a passer he is.
Didn't he have like 4 assists in the game against Canada last year? I remember he looked very dangerous that game but he was also playing with Kuznetsov who was just a beast.

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12-29-2012, 07:30 PM
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Goaltending has been a concern for the last few years. It's getting to the point where Hockey Canada will probably start to become worried about it legitimately affecting the senior team. There has been a dearth of top end Canadian goaltenders being developed in the last 5-10 years.
To be honest though, with that point, it's also the NHL's reluctance to try younger goalies and their over reliance on veterans for "stability".
Can't really find the "next great goalie" when NHL teams are hesitant to ride a young goalie and the slightest mistake, they are in the dog house.,

While I like to bash Dubnyk for his inconsistent play, he was definitely better than Khabi [minus Khabi's god mode Oct-Nov] and it took long term injury for Renney to let Dubnyk play more. And even then, 47 gp out of 82...kind of like that...


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12-29-2012, 07:53 PM
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Might be small, but I hope TSN color guys don't call a dive a 'heady play' just because a Canadian player did it.

I dunno, to me that was cringe worthy. A dive is a dive.
Ha, yeah I caught that and thought that as well.

A dive is never a heady play.

But the Canadian players insist they wont dive - http://www.tsn.ca/world_jrs/story/?id=412428

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12-29-2012, 08:21 PM
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To be honest though, with that point, it's also the NHL's reluctance to try younger goalies and their over reliance on veterans for "stability".
Can't really find the "next great goalie" when NHL teams are hesitant to ride a young goalie and the slightest mistake, they are in the dog house.,

While I like to bash Dubnyk for his inconsistent play, he was definitely better than Khabi [minus Khabi's god mode Oct-Nov] and it took long term injury for Renney to let Dubnyk play more. And even then, 47 gp out of 82...kind of like that...
i think people dont realize how good dubby was for second half of the season, maybe goods not the right word but it was solid
a .914 isnt bad on a second last team and first year really starting

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12-29-2012, 08:38 PM
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i think people dont realize how good dubby was for second half of the season, maybe goods not the right word but it was solid
a .914 isnt bad on a second last team and first year really starting
Oh, he's definitely better than Khabi [unless you want first pick overall lalalala] but my point was coaches are so reluctant to put in "untested" goalies, how are we to find the "next great Canadian goalie" when only incumbents get the chance. For all we know, Bunz might be the next greatest but if Krueger/Nelson/whomever the Oiler coach is by them doesn't give him the ball, no way we will ever find out.

Applies to all teams, not just Oilers.

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One thing Yakupov doesn't get enough credit for is how good of a passer he is.
It was more than a great pass though as he made some high skill moves before the pass. But I agree from what I've seen of him he is a very good passer. He could end up being our 2nd best passing forward.

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12-29-2012, 09:34 PM
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Dont forget to mention that russia have hometeam advantage and Canada does not.
For once Canada will not have the benefit off being able to get away with tons of penelties just due to preassure on the refs.
Ah its gonna be nice

Now all we would need is a team that also goes for the borderline injury play and cosmos would be in balance

With that said im 100% sure sweden wont surpass the semis this year so good luck in the finals and have fun..
I don't personally believe Canada benefitted on calls in those tournaments played in Canada.

I do however agree that it is MORE important for Canada to be LESS physical during THIS tournament.

On the big ice...body checking isn't nearly as effective as it is on North American ice.

To be honest...I thought Hockey Canada would go with a different strategy in selecting this team.

They might end up wishing they would have taken a few more scorers/skaters and a few less grinders.

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Few things I really liked about Yaks game...

1) dude can FLY, when he spots an opening he is gone

2) very nice hands. the skill on display when he assisted on Zharkov's goal, just awesome. tap's the puck out of mid air to himself through a team mates legs and back hand dish across the crease for a tap in.

3) smart player. plenty of patience, didn't force any break outs or NZ turn overs, often would play the puck back to the defenseman and start over, and he read the play perfectly on his goal. a nice little back pass and went into the perfect spot to tap in the rebound.

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Few things I really liked about Yaks game...

1) dude can FLY, when he spots an opening he is gone

2) very nice hands. the skill on display when he assisted on Zharkov's goal, just awesome. tap's the puck out of mid air to himself through a team mates legs and back hand dish across the crease for a tap in.

3) smart player. plenty of patience, didn't force any break outs or NZ turn overs, often would play the puck back to the defenseman and start over, and he read the play perfectly on his goal. a nice little back pass and went into the perfect spot to tap in the rebound.
His passing is pretty impressive even though many cite it as a weakness. I haven't seen many players who pass the puck so "hard" - this is particularly true on the powerplay where he made a number of really crisp passes back to the pointman for a shot on goal.

While the points aren't coming as swiftly in this tournament as many would like, I think he'll be a perfect fit on our team. Put him on the powerplay with Hemsky and I think we'll have a match made in heaven.

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12-30-2012, 02:04 AM
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Finland down 2-0 to the Swiss in what has to be a must win game for them.

One of the pre-tourney favourites could be getting the bum's rush into the relegation round.

Fox news is declaring that Sasha Barkov is the biggest bust in the first round of all the pools.

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Finland down 2-0 to the Swiss in what has to be a must win game for them.

One of the pre-tourney favourites could be getting the bum's rush into the relegation round.

Fox news is declaring that Sasha Barkov is the biggest bust in the first round of all the pools.
It needs to be remembered that Barkov is only 17 as of 4 months ago. While more was certainly expected of him offensively (and the tourny isn't over - I'd be surprised if he didn't hit the scoresheet), he's still a youngin in comparison to a lot of the other top players. Barkov is still an elite talent and he's putting up really impressive numbers in SM-liiga.

The Swiss are really impressive though! They're getting a lot of production from their star forwards and that's without their superstar, Bartschi.

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45 min till game time anyone else super pumped?

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That strome drouin Mac line could be deadly

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45 min till game time anyone else super pumped?
Game starts at 2:30.

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It needs to be remembered that Barkov is only 17 as of 4 months ago. While more was certainly expected of him offensively (and the tourny isn't over - I'd be surprised if he didn't hit the scoresheet), he's still a youngin in comparison to a lot of the other top players. Barkov is still an elite talent and he's putting up really impressive numbers in SM-liiga.

The Swiss are really impressive though! They're getting a lot of production from their star forwards and that's without their superstar, Bartschi.
Sure, but he was picked high in the pool drafts.

Draft eligible players arent usually prolific scorers in the tourney.

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Looking forward to that, but Rattie played alright imo.

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Bartschi.
Is a 1992. Unless you knew that.

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I'll watch the first period for sure, but damn I'm tired...And I kinda have a headache from Jon Anik's commentating of the fights tonight....That guy is terrible.

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Game starts at 2:30.
Schedule on page one of this thread says 2:00.
You are saying 2:30 and the streaming site has it up as starting at 3:30.
Sure would be nice to know which one is correct.

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Schedule on page one of this thread says 2:00.
You are saying 2:30 and the streaming site has it up as starting at 3:30.
Sure would be nice to know which one is correct.
2:30. Anyone know when the replays are?

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6 minutes

http://www.tsn.ca/world_jrs/feature/?id=4124

10:30am and 6:30pm if my time math is correct

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Schedule on page one of this thread says 2:00.
You are saying 2:30 and the streaming site has it up as starting at 3:30.
Sure would be nice to know which one is correct.
Tsn says game time is 2 but that's the start of the pre game show the game is at 2;30
Replays at 10 am and 6 pm mountain

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Thanks guys.
I hope that doesn't mean the stream isn't going to start until an hour later

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