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01-06-2013, 11:11 AM
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But consider the tournament Drouin had as well when he was given a chance. I guess my point was I'd rather draft a franchise C than D. Especially for our situation.
I like Drouin and he is cemented at #3 for me, but really are you telling me you prefer an impact winger over to what looks like the best defensive prospect since Drew Doughty? A franchise D man for the next 10 years for the Leafs?

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I was surprised his stock wasn't way up after how he ended last season than playoffs. Everyone credited Nate when Drouin was really just as good.

Good to see him get recognition now
Well you and I probably got good views due to our ties in the east and games watched there but not many IMO. Mackinnon has been hyped for the last 3 years so people probably just bought into his game rather than give Drouin credit. I mean still now people gave credit to Mac before Drouin until the WJC though.

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I like Drouin and he is cemented at #3 for me, but really are you telling me you prefer an impact winger over to what looks like the best defensive prospect since Drew Doughty? A franchise D man for the next 10 years for the Leafs?
Well I never said I would take Drouin before him for starters. Second, Drouin will likely be a center. Finally, Dmen are very risky. At least a lot of times they are. Hedman and Johnson ring a bell recently (Hedman is good in his own end but was supposed to be better)

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Well I never said I would take Drouin before him for starters. Second, Drouin will likely be a center. Finally, Dmen are very risky. At least a lot of times they are. Hedman and Johnson ring a bell recently (Hedman is good in his own end but was supposed to be better)
Don't count out Hedman yet he'll take some time, however the Johnson one yea that one was unique.

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Well you and I probably got good views due to our ties in the east and games watched there but not many IMO. Mackinnon has been hyped for the last 3 years so people probably just bought into his game rather than give Drouin credit. I mean still now people gave credit to Mac before Drouin until the WJC though.
Ya I actually live in Halifax and I'm more on the Drouin bandwagon. Nate played games in Hali when he was 15 (forget the tournament) and the hype machine was in full effect. Then at the draft everyone was pissed when we moved up to 2nd and Nate (our target) went 1st. Nobody knew much about Drouin. Then we traded for Nate, everyone was pumped. Drouin no shows and I don't think anyone around here cared much lol.

Then fast forward to the end of the season and he improved a lot. Dominates in the playoffs (game 7 ot winner ) and it was "because of Nate". This season he is better offensively than Nate and most still argued "he only does this good because of Nate". Lol what? He's doing better (at least offensively) and people finally saw him without Nate at the WJC. How'd he do?

I'm happy he is finally getting recognition for his hard work. His vision and hockey sence is through the roof. Nate is more well rounded but if he comes back next year, I'd switch him to center and get him to be better in all ends.

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Don't count out Hedman yet he'll take some time, however the Johnson one yea that one was unique.
Well ya he's still young but dmen take longer to develop and have more bust potential. That's all I'm saying. I suppose I shouldn't mention Hedman given his age

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So does the half the season help our draft stock? Or hurt it?

Personally I think it hurts it but hopefully that's a good thing.

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So does the half the season help our draft stock? Or hurt it?

Personally I think it hurts it but hopefully that's a good thing.
Hard to say what the season will bring.

I haven't seen one person on here mention what James Reimer was doing this off-season. He could very well be in worse shape than Byfuglien at the wedding. A lot of the season will depend on how he's looking because we can't expect the Leafs to make a trade for a goaltender.

Some of the Marlies will likely make the jump to the NHL. Gardiner, Frattin, Holzer and possibly Kadri and Ranger. They've all been playing and give them an edge to guys who have only been playing in practice like scrimmages.

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Well I never said I would take Drouin before him for starters. Second, Drouin will likely be a center. Finally, Dmen are very risky. At least a lot of times they are. Hedman and Johnson ring a bell recently (Hedman is good in his own end but was supposed to be better)
If you are going to pick the half glass empty approach, why did you not mention Daigle and only Johnson?

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We need to draft a center if we draft top 2. Drouin has really impressed me..if we are that terrible..we need a center unless Burke has some sort of inside track on guys like Getzlaf and Perry...then I don't care who we draft.

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We need to draft a center if we draft top 2. Drouin has really impressed me..if we are that terrible..we need a center unless Burke has some sort of inside track on guys like Getzlaf and Perry...then I don't care who we draft.

Every team that misses the playoffs now has a shot at #1 overall

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We need to draft a center if we draft top 2. Drouin has really impressed me..if we are that terrible..we need a center unless Burke has some sort of inside track on guys like Getzlaf and Perry...then I don't care who we draft.
still other guys without a doubt that are going to be a longer term project, a lot of raw skill. Not as well rounded out as some of those in the top 8ish. Players like Bailey and Kujawinski, there was another one I forget, not Horvat and Domi.

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still other guys without a doubt that are going to be a longer term project, a lot of raw skill. Not as well rounded out as some of those in the top 8ish. Players like Bailey and Kujawinski, there was another one I forget, not Horvat and Domi.

Nichushkin?

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Nichushkin?
I think he'll be in the top 10 or 15ish as well he isn't a center.

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I think if we do well enough in the shortened season and we have a pick out of the top 10 or whatever, this is the year Burke definitely trades up. Way too much talent in that top 10, and if he has a chance to flip a nice prospect to get into the top 5 especially he will. As a Mooseheads fan I've been hoping for MacKinnon, but that is likely out of the question now.

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So i've seen a few posters say all teams that miss the playoffs will be in the lottery for the 1st overall pick (weighted though). Is this true?

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So i've seen a few posters say all teams that miss the playoffs will be in the lottery for the 1st overall pick (weighted though). Is this true?
Sort of, it's a bit unclear.

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I think he'll be in the top 10 or 15ish as well he isn't a center.
I have seen him listed as a C and LW.

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still other guys without a doubt that are going to be a longer term project, a lot of raw skill. Not as well rounded out as some of those in the top 8ish. Players like Bailey and Kujawinski, there was another one I forget, not Horvat and Domi.
Frederik Gauthier is one.

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So i've seen a few posters say all teams that miss the playoffs will be in the lottery for the 1st overall pick (weighted though). Is this true?
I thought I saw somewhere (twitter?) that the odds of winning remain the same, but they eliminated the 4 max move. They should just do the same as the NBA, and lottery the top 3 spots.

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Watching the ottawa / brampton game today, after watching the WJC these past 2 weeks, I recalled someone saying 'again someone putting too much stock into the WJC'. Wonder if we should put stock into this game? If I go on the first period of this game, No one would be draft worthy. Ottawa is a very bad hockey team.

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So does the half the season help our draft stock? Or hurt it?

Personally I think it hurts it but hopefully that's a good thing.
With this team it might actually help . All depends on how they come out of the gate.

At least now every team that misses has a shot at the top pick. Though we'd still need to perform some bribery to win it .

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Frederik Gauthier is one.
He's one but I question his skill output tbh. The other guy who is winger though is Rychel, he can also play center right?

leugangen i always thought he was just a winger never knew he played abit of center, I won't comment much as I barely see him.

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The centers I was talking about was Lazar and possible Compher.

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If Ottawa didn't have Ceci and Monahan, they would be in even more trouble. Best 67's of the game.

After 2 periods, Monahan is having just an OK game, always shows good IQ out on the ice. Creates space on the PP with a nice assist and he's effective killing penalties.

Doesn't do one thing great, rather than a lot of things very well. Solid top 7 prospect that if you want a complete player with no holes, this is it.

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