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12-30-2012, 05:51 PM
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The Giancarlo Stanton sweepstakes

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...o-stanton.html


The only teams I see with the prospects needed to get Stanton are the Rangers and Flubs.


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12-30-2012, 06:29 PM
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If by Flubs you mean Mariners then yes you are correct.

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mariners need a power bat, are relatively young. Makes a lot of sense but who knows

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The Mariners could get whoever they want right now.

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Cubs wouldn't be able to acquire him until next offseason. TDL at the earliest.

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12-30-2012, 07:55 PM
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The Mariners could get whoever they want right now.
The Flubs could too, right now.

Baez as the main cog going back puts them in a huge position of trading away a top notch prospect, coupled with possibly Soler and filler and the Marlins would be interested quickly.

The only team that could offer something that interesting would be the Rangers with Profair. I dont consider any of the Mariners prospects in that stratosphere of skill, but thats just me.

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The Flubs could too, right now.

Baez as the main cog going back puts them in a huge position of trading away a top notch prospect, coupled with possibly Soler and filler and the Marlins would be interested quickly.

The only team that could offer something that interesting would be the Rangers with Profair. I dont consider any of the Mariners prospects in that stratosphere of skill, but thats just me.

That Walker guy is not bad.

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Can he play center or left?

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That Walker guy is not bad.
If they were looking for pitching.

Trading away a huge chip in Stanton would require a huge positional player coming back, I would imagine.

Baez is as good as it gets. And maybe I am bias on account of actually seeing him play, but he is a Sheffield clone and offensively, just on his bat speed alone, I would go as far as to say he could, right now, hit MLB pitching. Defensively, he is and will be a shortstop, and that is obviously blocked with Castro. There is no way the kid can play third base from my eye alone, as he was horrible and kept looking over at the SS like "god, I wish I could be there".

That being said, the Flubs have a bevy of prospects right now in Baez, Sloer, Almora. Top notch prospects that have high ceilings. Throw in Voggie who is completely insane in terms of power and reminds me of Dunn, I could see the Flubs making a huge push for Stanton and have the means to do so, easily.

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I think Tampa could be a player in this.

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Pick you 4 best prospects.

That's what the Marlins want for Stanton.


I'd offer the Marlins anything but Bundy and Machado.

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Pick you 4 best prospects.

That's what the Marlins want for Stanton.
No it wont.

It might take four prospects but it wouldnt take any teams top four. If thats the case then the White Sox would offer their top five and not look back.

The Marlins would want at least one cant miss, a second blue chip, and possibly filler who might pan out.

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If they were looking for pitching.

Trading away a huge chip in Stanton would require a huge positional player coming back, I would imagine.

Baez is as good as it gets. And maybe I am bias on account of actually seeing him play, but he is a Sheffield clone and offensively, just on his bat speed alone, I would go as far as to say he could, right now, hit MLB pitching. Defensively, he is and will be a shortstop, and that is obviously blocked with Castro. There is no way the kid can play third base from my eye alone, as he was horrible and kept looking over at the SS like "god, I wish I could be there".

That being said, the Flubs have a bevy of prospects right now in Baez, Sloer, Almora. Top notch prospects that have high ceilings. Throw in Voggie who is completely insane in terms of power and reminds me of Dunn, I could see the Flubs making a huge push for Stanton and have the means to do so, easily.
I agree on the Sheffield comparison as of now. It's a popular comparison to make and as long as the loop in his swing doesn't provide any problems, he should be fine. Third base seems like a natural fit to me, for him. He's got some ungodly reflexes that will, eventually, help him mold into a potential Gold Glover there. That is, if he works at it.

They can't move Almora and Soler until late July I believe. They won't be able to pull off a deal without at least one of them, unless they net some good specs for Garza or other guys.

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Pick you 4 best prospects.

That's what the Marlins want for Stanton.


I'd offer the Marlins anything but Bundy and Machado.
They'd probably hang up then.

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I agree on the Sheffield comparison as of now. It's a popular comparison to make and as long as the loop in his swing doesn't provide any problems, he should be fine. Third base seems like a natural fit to me, for him. He's got some ungodly reflexes that will, eventually, help him mold into a potential Gold Glover there. That is, if he works at it.
I dont see it personally, but thats from only seeing one game where he looked lost out there at third. Could he? Possibly, like you said, if he worked at it. Baez is something special, and this is coming from a White Sox fan. I would be the only WS fan who would trade Sale for him straight up...yeah, he is that good.
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They can't move Almora and Soler until late July I believe.
I think you are right, or I think they can pull the player to be named later card, i think.
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They won't be able to pull off a deal without at least one of them, unless they net some good specs for Garza or other guys.
If Theo was smart, he would pick thru the Rangers prospects for Garza.

Theo has worked some magic already, I think he could net Olt and Perez for Garza. I dont put anything over the guy.

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I dont see it personally, but thats from only seeing one game where he looked lost out there at third. Could he? Possibly, like you said, if he worked at it. Baez is something special, and this is coming from a White Sox fan. I would be the only WS fan who would trade Sale for him straight up...yeah, he is that good.
People have high praise for Baez. Sickels has him as his #5 hitting prospect. I'm incredibly hopeful as well because all I see is good things.

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I think you are right, or I think they can pull the player to be named later card, i think.
It would have to be named within 6 months.

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If Theo was smart, he would pick thru the Rangers prospects for Garza.

Theo has worked some magic already, I think he could net Olt and Perez for Garza. I dont put anything over the guy.
I'd want Buckel more than Perez. Maybe Theo can. Right now, obviously isn't an option, but if Garza looks amazing in the Spring or in the 1st half, it could happen.

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Cardinals could be a player. Replace Beltran next year.

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Cardinals could be a player. Replace Beltran next year.
I would probably cry if that happened

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I would probably cry if that happened
Honestly we have the players for it.

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Honestly we have the players for it.
The Cards are insane. They have such a great team, and some of the best prospects in the league. I hope they don't, simply for the sake of all the other teams.

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I would offer Rasmus, Gose and Sanchez for him, just in case the jays wanted to get even more stacked while trading more prospects

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I would offer Rasmus, Gose and Sanchez for him, just in case the jays wanted to get even more stacked while trading more prospects
I'd do that no question. Sanchez has ace stuff but for Stanton..

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I would offer Rasmus, Gose and Sanchez for him, just in case the jays wanted to get even more stacked while trading more prospects
Why would the Marlins want Rasmus, who hasnt lived up to any hype, Gose, who hasnt shown he can even hit ML pitching, and Sanchez who walks almost 5 a game when they could have already had those players when they decided to drop their baggage onto the laps of the Jays already? None of whom are in the ball park of skill set as something the Flubs or Rangers could bring to the table?

The biggest chip the Jays had went for a 38 year old gimmick pitcher. Isnt gonna happen.

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They won't trade Stanton.

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