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01-11-2013, 09:52 AM
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Come on, who better for Grigorenko, a rookie, to play with?

Vanek-Hodgson-Ott
Foligno-Ennis-Stafford
Hecht-Grigorenko-Pominville
Scott/Gerbe-Leino/McCormick-Kaleta

If Grigorenko can combine his skill with the work ethic and overall demeanor of Hechtonville, he'll be a star in no time.

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01-11-2013, 10:00 AM
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Come on, who better for Grigorenko, a rookie, to play with?

Vanek-Hodgson-Ott
Foligno-Ennis-Stafford
Hecht-Grigorenko-Pominville
Scott/Gerbe-Leino/McCormick-Kaleta

If Grigorenko can combine his skill with the work ethic and overall demeanor of Hechtonville, he'll be a star in no time.
I'd rather have Gerbe and Ott flanking Girgorenko.

Vanek-CoHo-P'Ville
Foligno-TEnnis-Staff
Gerbe-Grigs-Ott
Leino-Hecht-Kaleta

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Come on, who better for Grigorenko, a rookie, to play with?

Vanek-Hodgson-Ott
Foligno-Ennis-Stafford
Hecht-Grigorenko-Pominville
Scott/Gerbe-Leino/McCormick-Kaleta

If Grigorenko can combine his skill with the work ethic and overall demeanor of Hechtonville, he'll be a star in no time.
Having Pominville on that line is asking for trouble. Lindy is going to rely on Pominville a ton, and he'll probably be the ice time leader for forwards on a nightly basis. Putting a rookie center and injury prone wing with him is forcing those two into more minutes than they should be getting.

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01-11-2013, 10:08 AM
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I like Hecht-Grigs-Ott if Grigs gets the tryout.

I'm not worried about Grigs's offensive output here. I want him to be with stable, veteran guys who can bail him out. Pommer would fit here, but I want him with Vanek/Hodgson.

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01-11-2013, 10:15 AM
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Having Pominville on that line is asking for trouble. Lindy is going to rely on Pominville a ton, and he'll probably be the ice time leader for forwards on a nightly basis. Putting a rookie center and injury prone wing with him is forcing those two into more minutes than they should be getting.
That's not true. You know that no matter what line they're on, Poms and Hecht will be the 1st PK unit. Just because the three of them are together doesn't mean that any of them will have the same ice time, as Poms will be a primary PKer and PPer. Grigorenko would see PP time but no PK, and the opposite would be the same for Hecht.

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01-11-2013, 10:21 AM
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As long as the joker stays at LW, with limited minutes and pk responsibility... I'm OK with it.

Would a NHL team with 3 Germans set some kind of record?

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01-11-2013, 10:22 AM
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Everyone knows Vanek - Hecht - Pominville will happen.

Im so tired of being stuck in neutral.

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01-11-2013, 10:42 AM
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The best thing about bringing Hecht is it will really help our PK depth.

Hecht
Pominville
Ott
Kaleta (will be injured soon enough)
Gerbe (Injured)
Hodgson


Granted, Hecht will be injured soon enough too...but hopefully they can stagger the games they miss

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01-11-2013, 10:44 AM
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I like it, we need a defensive forward like him and if he can stay healthy it will be a very good signing for us.

Just don't put him on the first line Lindy...

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That's not true. You know that no matter what line they're on, Poms and Hecht will be the 1st PK unit. Just because the three of them are together doesn't mean that any of them will have the same ice time, as Poms will be a primary PKer and PPer. Grigorenko would see PP time but no PK, and the opposite would be the same for Hecht.
Total ice time, that's true. For ES time, Pominville's going to be getting 14+ minutes per night, possibly more. Lindy likes to keep younger guys and rookies in the 10-12 minutes range for ES. Putting Grigs on a line with Pominville is going to give him a couple extra minutes of ES time per night, which might be unfair to do to him.

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Total ice time, that's true. For ES time, Pominville's going to be getting 14+ minutes per night, possibly more. Lindy likes to keep younger guys and rookies in the 10-12 minutes range for ES. Putting Grigs on a line with Pominville is going to give him a couple extra minutes of ES time per night, which might be unfair to do to him.
If he plays Grigs with Hecht-Poms, and the Sabres are leading in the last 10 minutes, Grigs will be stapled to the bench, and Hodgson or even Ott will play with them.

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Total ice time, that's true. For ES time, Pominville's going to be getting 14+ minutes per night, possibly more. Lindy likes to keep younger guys and rookies in the 10-12 minutes range for ES. Putting Grigs on a line with Pominville is going to give him a couple extra minutes of ES time per night, which might be unfair to do to him.
I could see Grigorenko getting the Adam treatment last year...well hopefully just his ice time at the beginning of the season.

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I could see Grigorenko getting the Adam treatment last year...well hopefully just his ice time at the beginning of the season.
That's my fear. If they aren't going to give him PP time and a regular shift it's not worth keeping him up here just to kill his confidence.

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I like it. He's in game shape, has been playing great in Germany and is a reliable utility player. He's best as a third line shut down guy and PK man, but he can fill in anywhere if needed.

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That's my fear. If they aren't going to give him PP time and a regular shift it's not worth keeping him up here just to kill his confidence.
If he's not going to be a regular player getting regular ice time, they aren't going to keep him here.

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That's my fear. If they aren't going to give him PP time and a regular shift it's not worth keeping him up here just to kill his confidence.
I liked how Adam was used in the beginning of the year...some PP time, lots of offensive zone starts and then a place on the bench in the final minutes to protect a lead. As long as a Hecht - Grig - Poms line is used that way I'd be a big fan...get the kid's feet wet, and let him do his thing.

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Does this signing bump Leino down the depth chart? If so, hooray for having a 4th liner get paid 6mil!

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Does this signing bump Leino down the depth chart? If so, hooray for having a 4th liner get paid 6mil!
I wouldn't count on it.

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His home club has just announced that Hecht has signed a one year deal with the Sabres.
I hate this organization sometimes.

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I hate this organization sometimes.
Personally, if Hecht stays healthy, I think this is an excellent signing. I don't recall a healthy Hecht ever being a liability on this team.

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I don't know why anyone would be upset about signing Jochen to a 1 yr deal for a 48 game season.

It must be because our lineup already has soooo many 2 way forwards and PKers with experience and leadership qualities.

must be...

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I don't know why anyone would be upset about signing Jochen to a 1 yr deal for a 48 game season.

It must be because our lineup already has soooo many 2 way forwards and PKers with experience and leadership qualities.

must be...
It's because he's going to be the #1 C and shoehorned into top 6 ice time.

It's because it's more of the same crap that hasn't worked the past 4 years or whatever.

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I don't know why anyone would be upset about signing Jochen to a 1 yr deal for a 48 game season.

It must be because our lineup already has soooo many 2 way forwards and PKers with experience and leadership qualities.

must be...
My concern is how he's used, not so much Hecht himself. If Lindy uses him as a top player because things don't go as expected like he ALWAYS does, I'm going to blow a gasket. First line hasn't produced a point in two games? HECHT GO CENTER THAT LINE

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And there goes any chance of Grigs playing more than 9 games for the sabres this season....
Poor read of the situation IMO.

The Sabres have invested a lot in some really talented young centers. Hecht is cheap insurance if the young centers (Grigs in particular) are not able to compete yet.

If Grigs plays well in his 6 game tryout, then Hecht's role is diminished. If Grigs looks like he is not quite ready then Hecht's role increases (not top 6).

As mentioned, Grigs play determines Grigs role.

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