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Exhibition • Dec. 22 • Canada 2, Sweden 1 (SO) • Part II

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12-22-2012, 06:05 PM
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That was a really dumb hit... so late.
It was 30 digital frames late which is about 1.25 seconds. While late, it's not extremely late by most hockey standards.

I think he deserved a penalty for a late hit. I don't think we would be talking about a suspension had this happened in North America. If it's 1 or 2 games, fine I'd take that as a queue from the IIHF to "tone it down," but any more is simply overkill in my opinion.

Also I've never liked the fact that an injury is factored into the discipline at all. Whether or not a player gets injured is not a very good indicator of how "dirty" or "illegal" or even "unsafe" a hit is.


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12-22-2012, 06:07 PM
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These are hits to the head:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aWOP-Ek6Qg : Kulda suspended three games

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...150426229.html : Sacha Treille suspended 5 games

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tExHTyDi3Wc Martin Marincin was assessed a further three-game suspension (four games in total)

Some of the criteria used to make this decision included the distance travelled by Marincin to deliver the hit. In Marouelli’s opinion, this was a premeditated act as the puck had long left the vicinity of the play. Marincin took advantage of a defenceless and unsuspecting opponent and deliberately targeted the head and neck area, resulting in an injury to Zucker.

I cannot find similar hits that IIHF ruled on
My opinion - it doesnt look good for Jenner - Bring in wilson

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12-22-2012, 06:09 PM
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Would be interesting to see the reactions if Crosby was hit like that by someone in the NHL.

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12-22-2012, 06:12 PM
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Would be interesting to see the reactions if Crosby was hit like that by someone in the NHL.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...150426229.html : Sacha Treille suspended 5 games

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12-22-2012, 06:22 PM
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It was 30 digital frames late which is about 1.25 seconds. While late, it's not extremely late by most hockey standards.

I think he deserved a penalty for a late hit. I don't think we would be talking about a suspension had this happened in North America. If it's 1 or 2 games, fine I'd take that as a queue from the IIHF to "tone it down," but any more is simply overkill in my opinion.

Also I've never liked the fact that an injury is factored into the discipline at all. Whether or not a player gets injured is not a very good indicator of how "dirty" or "illegal" or even "unsafe" a hit is.
Hd cameras aren't running at 24fps, closer to 36. Still late but not that late.

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12-22-2012, 06:28 PM
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What was Pettersson doing there? definitely a late hit but I dont think there was intent to injure. If there are suspensions for these, might as well make 5 min major + automatic suspension EVERY time.

I would refer you all to last year's hit on Jenner which was an elbow BTW:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK4bM7g5zOQ

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12-22-2012, 06:30 PM
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Would be interesting to see the reactions if Crosby was hit like that by someone in the NHL.

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Crosby was hit away from play, and right on the head. No suspension.

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12-22-2012, 06:31 PM
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What was Pettersson doing there? definitely a late hit but I dont think there was intent to injure. If there are suspensions for these, might as well make 5 min major + automatic suspension EVERY time.

I would refer you all to last year's hit on Jenner which was an elbow BTW:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK4bM7g5zOQ
Spot should plan for the future and bring in Wilson ASAP just incase...this way he will be ready and not wait till Dec 26...the worst that will happen is Wilson gets a free trip out of it...even though its in Ufa -20 C lolol

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12-22-2012, 06:36 PM
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Would be interesting to see the reactions if Crosby was hit like that by someone in the NHL.

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Crosby would have probably known better than to have admired his pass on that play.

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if it was RNH who got hit, the feeling would be very different...
I'd be happy if that happened.

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12-22-2012, 06:50 PM
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I'd be happy if that happened.
Really? Happy if a player gets injured?

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Really? Happy if a player gets injured?
You're quoting one of HF's biggest RNH haters.

He doesn't like that people think RNH is better than Landeskog.

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There would be a riot in Canada demanding suspension right now if it was RNH/MacKinnon getting hit.

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I'd be happy if that happened.
Better hope your boy Landeskog learns to keep his head up coming over the blue line.

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It was 30 digital frames late which is about 1.25 seconds. While late, it's not extremely late by most hockey standards.

I think he deserved a penalty for a late hit. I don't think we would be talking about a suspension had this happened in North America. If it's 1 or 2 games, fine I'd take that as a queue from the IIHF to "tone it down," but any more is simply overkill in my opinion.

Also I've never liked the fact that an injury is factored into the discipline at all. Whether or not a player gets injured is not a very good indicator of how "dirty" or "illegal" or even "unsafe" a hit is.
I'm Canadian and I think he should be done for the tourney. The hit was way late. There's no excuse and given his prior history he should have the book thrown at him.

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12-22-2012, 07:02 PM
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Really? Happy if a player gets injured?

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12-22-2012, 07:14 PM
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There's no excuse and given his prior history he should have the book thrown at him.
He speared a guy once after a lot of back-and-forth.

That's not much of a history.

To say he's like Torres as someone else said is idiotic. Torres puts his elbow out and hits other players in the head. Jenner just steamrolls them because he's a beast. Yes it was late but honestly it wasn't THAT late, he doesn't have any problem in the OHL, and none of his hits target the head or lead with the elbow.


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he played much better than them. Lots of smart plays, didnt throw the puck away at all, made nice passes, won some draws and tried to make things happen
I don't think he played much better. Huberdeau and Schiefele were below average, RNH was merely "solid". He definitely didn't look like an NHL player "on pace for 90+ points before he got injured".

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I'm Canadian and I think he should be done for the tourney. The hit was way late. There's no excuse and given his prior history he should have the book thrown at him.
What prior history? The spear? How does that have anything to do with today's hit? I am tired of people saying "his prior history", he does not have a history of dirty hits or trying to hurt people! Did you see the spear last year, you would have thought the guy was stabbed with a sword!
I will say that it was late, but anything more than 1 or 2 games is wrong!

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12-22-2012, 07:19 PM
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He speared a guy once after a lot of back-and-forth.

That's not much of a history. To say he's like Torres is idiotic. Torres puts his elbow out and hits other players in the head. Jenner just steamrolls them because he's a beast. Yes it was late but honestly it wasn't THAT late, he doesn't have any problem in the OHL, and none of his hits target the head or lead with the elbow.
And a blindside hit on Olli Määttä that wasn't penalised and resulted in concussion (Bob McKenzie said that today)

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12-22-2012, 07:20 PM
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Really disapointed with Morgan Reilly so far. He was Canada's worst defender today. Just handled the puck like a live grenade.

I never really seen the kid before so I had high expectations, but he looks like a disaster out there at times.

Also disapointed in RNH so far. I will give him a pass as he doesn't kill penalities so he saw limited ice time. However maybe I was expecting more or him to be more dominant and he just isn't.

RNH will make a nice pass/play the odd time but felt like he should be doing more I guess... It's still early so I am not worried about RNH as much as Reilly because RNH has shown he can play with big boys.... but I am getting worried perhaps this team took too much pretty and not enough grind.

As for the hit, it was late and I expect a 1-2 game suspension for Jenner.

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12-22-2012, 07:22 PM
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And a blindside hit on Olli Määttä that wasn't penalised and resulted in concussion (Bob McKenzie said that today)
That was a totally clean hit even when they went back and reviewed it... As such it should not even be mentioned once.

He has 1 thing on his record, last year's WJC where he speared Kuznetsov. That's it and that's NOT a reputation.

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Being facetious aside, Pettersson should've kept his head up instead of admiring his pass and just put up an elbow in Jenner's face. Gotta protect yourself after getting rid of the puck!

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Canadian fan here. Jenner should be suspended for multiple games.

Just where over the years did these horribly late hits and suggestions that a player who should have no thought of being hit should keep his head up become normal and okay? You make the pass, the opposing player is several strides away from you, you legitimately do not expect to get freakin hammered.

Fug these late hits, zero excuse for mashing a player if you are just too late to get a clean hit in. He busted the guy up on a cheap hit and he should pay the price.

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