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12-26-2012, 12:22 AM
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Has anyone answered the question with the obvious, they buy it to fit in, but are to cheap for the rest/don't have a need for the rest? Got an Iphone 4S just today on a family plan so it has shared internet usage, so If I don't need to use it off of a Wifi spot I won't but if it's quick/neccessary its available for me.

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12-26-2012, 12:28 AM
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I have a smartphone without data. Pay $10/month for it for 2.5K outgoing, and unlimited incoming texts.

I ain't even mad.

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12-26-2012, 12:38 AM
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$29 for 12 months is $348.

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My plan is more than just data.

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12-26-2012, 12:41 AM
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In the mountain small city I live in I don't get 4G or even 3G so I rely on wifi which is ok seeing how I know lot's of people and have PWs for just about every business in town ,including work and home.My phone jumps from one to the next w/o a fuss and I am always connected. I can go months w/o using data.

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My cousin dooes this... I dont get it...

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12-26-2012, 12:52 AM
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Because a smartphone is for more than accessing e-mail?
any internet usage, whether it be streaming, or emails, or just posting on hfboards is going to require a data plan.

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12-26-2012, 02:11 AM
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Jesus you guys have expensive plans... I pay 19 euros a month for unlimited data, 600 minutes, and 1000 texts
Are mobile service providers regulated nationally or do they operate in many countries throughout Europe? Just curious if large companies control the service in the EU so they can draw on the whole population in Europe for their market.


In Canada its 3 major national providers (TELUS, Bell & Rogers) with a few small zone providers. Large US carriers like ATT & Verizon are not permitted to operate in Canada as its regulated by the Federal Govt and not included in the US/Canada free trade agreement.

Canada is almost 10,000,000 sq km but has 1/10th the population of the US. So large land mass means extensive network to build & maintain with minimal poputlation to pay the cost.

'Do you know Canada has some of the highest mobile phone servie prices in the world?' is a common cry from many people in Canada based on half ass media reports. Its economics 101 but people tend to spew garbage & complain about cost of service in other countries then focus on their options in the marketplace. Options are governement regulated but it is a competive market. I understand people being tough consumers but have a valid point rather than make sweeping statements that have no merit.

It's like complaining about the cost of oranges in Edmonton compared to what you'd to pay if you lived in Florida.

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12-26-2012, 09:31 AM
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If you are in the same club as buddahsmokah, you know you are doin it wrong in life.

It seriously makes no sense to buy a piece of technology, that basically relies on a service and then not buy service for it. You may say, "EVERYWHERE I GO HAS WIFI"...except when you travel...do you know every hot spot in your traveling city? I mean, if you are going to blow your wad of cash on a piece of technology and only occasionally use it, get a tablet. At least those things are designed to be useless without a service.

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My plan:
€15/month for unlimited text messages, unlimited phone calls to same provider, 2 GB data/month (3G network thank god).

Very happy with this.

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12-26-2012, 11:29 AM
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Are mobile service providers regulated nationally or do they operate in many countries throughout Europe? Just curious if large companies control the service in the EU so they can draw on the whole population in Europe for their market.


In Canada its 3 major national providers (TELUS, Bell & Rogers) with a few small zone providers. Large US carriers like ATT & Verizon are not permitted to operate in Canada as its regulated by the Federal Govt and not included in the US/Canada free trade agreement.

Canada is almost 10,000,000 sq km but has 1/10th the population of the US. So large land mass means extensive network to build & maintain with minimal poputlation to pay the cost.

'Do you know Canada has some of the highest mobile phone servie prices in the world?' is a common cry from many people in Canada based on half ass media reports. Its economics 101 but people tend to spew garbage & complain about cost of service in other countries then focus on their options in the marketplace. Options are governement regulated but it is a competive market. I understand people being tough consumers but have a valid point rather than make sweeping statements that have no merit.

It's like complaining about the cost of oranges in Edmonton compared to what you'd to pay if you lived in Florida.

End of rant.
And then another way to show that you are right is to look at carriers like Wind and Mobilicity. Their plans are dirt cheap relative to the big 3, but they are only available in the big population centers in Canada. If they were nationwide, then they wouldn't be able to have those ridiculously cheap plans.

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If you are in the same club as buddahsmokah, you know you are doin it wrong in life.

It seriously makes no sense to buy a piece of technology, that basically relies on a service and then not buy service for it. You may say, "EVERYWHERE I GO HAS WIFI"...except when you travel...do you know every hot spot in your traveling city? I mean, if you are going to blow your wad of cash on a piece of technology and only occasionally use it, get a tablet. At least those things are designed to be useless without a service.
I don't even use ANY internet on my smart phone.


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12-26-2012, 01:13 PM
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I have a smartphone without data. Pay $10/month for it for 2.5K outgoing, and unlimited incoming texts.

I ain't even mad.
Yup, that's what I do. I can get unlimited data for $10/month too, but with the number of times I'd actually use it when I don't have access to Wifi, I'd be paying $5 to $10 bucks per use, which isn't very economical. I'd rather have money for a few more beers and not bother.

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12-26-2012, 01:55 PM
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If you are in the same club as buddahsmokah, you know you are doin it wrong in life.

It seriously makes no sense to buy a piece of technology, that basically relies on a service and then not buy service for it. You may say, "EVERYWHERE I GO HAS WIFI"...except when you travel...do you know every hot spot in your traveling city? I mean, if you are going to blow your wad of cash on a piece of technology and only occasionally use it, get a tablet. At least those things are designed to be useless without a service.
Yeah! If you're not paying $20+ per month to check your email whenever you travel out of the city there is something seriously wrong with you. I know it's just impossible for me to relax without my email whenever I take a vacation.

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Yeah! If you're not paying $20+ per month to check your email whenever you travel out of the city there is something seriously wrong with you. I know it's just impossible for me to relax without my email whenever I take a vacation.
Sorry, I did not know that $20 was really an incredible sum of money. If it is such an incredible sum of money, I'd hope you would have saved some money when buying your cell phone in the first place and...not gotten a smartphone.

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12-26-2012, 02:30 PM
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Sorry, I did not know that $20 was really an incredible sum of money. If it is such an incredible sum of money, I'd hope you would have saved some money when buying your cell phone in the first place and...not gotten a smartphone.
I bought an unlocked smartphone for $200, it was hardly anything significantly expensive.

I prefer not having $50+ phone bills every month.

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Sorry, I did not know that $20 was really an incredible sum of money. If it is such an incredible sum of money, I'd hope you would have saved some money when buying your cell phone in the first place and...not gotten a smartphone.
You can get pretty decent smartphones for less than $200 now without signing a contract. For a multi-purpose phone, camera and MP3 player that's a pretty good deal. Spending the extra $250/year on convenient email access just isn't a prudent investment for people who don't need to constantly check it.

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You can get pretty decent smartphones for less than $200 now without signing a contract. For a multi-purpose phone, camera and MP3 player that's a pretty good deal. Spending the extra $250/year on convenient email access just isn't a prudent investment for people who don't need to constantly check it.
I take it you don't travel much or do you navigate via printed out papers or maps?

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I take it you don't travel much or do you navigate via printed out papers or maps?
I probably travel more than you do.

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Threads like this make me wonder a) how old everyone is and b) how they possibly lived without smart phones years ago.

Lord almighty. Judging by some of the posts in here, you would swear that people need their smart phone to hold their hand and do everything for them.

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I take it you don't travel much or do you navigate via printed out papers or maps?
Travelling without a smartphone really isn't hard if you take the 5 minutes to prepare beforehand. If you really need Google Maps on hand at all times then you probably shouldn't be allowed to leave the house unsupervised anyways.

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Threads like this make me wonder a) how old everyone is and b) how they possibly lived without smart phones years ago.

Lord almighty. Judging by some of the posts in here, you would swear that people need their smart phone to hold their hand and do everything for them.
I wonder about "a" too.

$20 a month is not a lot of money for anyone who even has a...slightly above minimum wage level job.

It's not often you have a puckgenius thread that has a bunch of replies in it that are...below puckgenius quality, but he nailed this one. If you are going to use your phone to...be a phone...you don't need a smartphone. Going out of your way to buy a smartphone to not use it to it's..."smart" potential is...dumb.

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Travelling without a smartphone really isn't hard if you take the 5 minutes to prepare beforehand. If you really need Google Maps on hand at all times then you probably shouldn't be allowed to leave the house unsupervised anyways.
I'm glad your printed maps always advise you of a detour and how to properly navigate around it. I guess paper technology has come a long way since I remember using it.

Unless of course you are a Christopher Columbus of large cities, naturally able to navigate at will, which...is simply impressive.

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I wonder about "a" too.

$20 a month is not a lot of money for anyone who even has a...slightly above minimum wage level job.

It's not often you have a puckgenius thread that has a bunch of replies in it that are...below puckgenius quality, but he nailed this one. If you are going to use your phone to...be a phone...you don't need a smartphone. Going out of your way to buy a smartphone to not use it to it's..."smart" potential is...dumb.
Going 'out of your way to buy a smartphone.'

WTF does that even mean?

Why the hell would I want a ****** flip phone?

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Threads like this make me wonder a) how old everyone is and b) how they possibly lived without smart phones years ago.

Lord almighty. Judging by some of the posts in here, you would swear that people need their smart phone to hold their hand and do everything for them.
Back in my day we used rotary phones

That's the thing about those days...They the old days

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